Trump's Infrastructure Proposals Could Unite America

[Camp]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

 

[owebo]

PPP

 

[Iceweasel]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

 

[Camp]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

But it will still be government funding and government means of production.

 

[Iceweasel]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

But it will still be government funding and government means of production.

The government doesn't build roads, they bid it out. But I'd rather see a road built than some fat socialist buy a mansion on our dime.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

 

[Iceweasel]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

No, the Republicans know that when they gave obie money he passed it along to his buddies and shit didn't get done. Where's all those shovel ready jobs?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

Rejected.....One of first things O did was stimulas for shovel rdy jobs........No more choo choos to nowhere

 

[initforme]

Perhaps Donnie can do it....as long as the money ends up in the form of wages for the workers at a minimum of 30 some dollars per hour. Some here would just as well hire illegals though so the work gets done for half of that...which is idiotic.

 

[Camp]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

No, the Republicans know that when they gave obie money he passed it along to his buddies and shit didn't get done. Where's all those shovel ready jobs?

There is absolutely no evidence that a Trump bureaucracy would be any different than any other bureaucracy. And really, the Obama excuses and deflections are obsolete.

 

[BluesLegend]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

^^^ Iceweasel for budget secretary, lets start a grass roots campaign!

 

[Camp]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

So. you are saying that after all these years of effort to demonize socialism and socialist-tinged projects Republicans will now embrace them?

 

[Iceweasel]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

^^^ Iceweasel for budget secretary, lets start a grass roots campaign!

If was up to me we'd have money left over to pave the streets in gold.

 

[Iceweasel]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

No, the Republicans know that when they gave obie money he passed it along to his buddies and shit didn't get done. Where's all those shovel ready jobs?

There is absolutely no evidence that a Trump bureaucracy would be any different than any other bureaucracy. And really, the Obama excuses and deflections are obsolete.

Good point Camp. They've been in office almost a day now. The track record is clearly set.

 

[BluesLegend]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

^^^ Iceweasel for budget secretary, lets start a grass roots campaign!

If was up to me we'd have money left over to pave the streets in gold.

The federal government has spent close to $40 trillion dollars in just the last 10 years. What did we get for all that money? Holy shit $40 trillion, that's 40,000 billion. Their incompetence is mind boggling. These dumb asses blew $45 million building a natural gas filling station in Afghanistan...and since there are no vehicles in Afghanistan that run on natural gas the station sit there in mothballs.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

The single reason such projects were rejected by the Congress was that the were proposed by Obama. I have no doubt the GOP Controlled Congress will do everything in their power to create jobs now that they hold the White House, The Congress and soon the Supreme Court. That fact isn't a good thing for democracy, but it will create jobs.

The question in waiting is will these jobs pay union wages, and have good benefits, or will they fill the pockets of the plutocrats? Will labor unions be undercut by such promises, will consent decrees be honored and will OSHA be eliminated and worker safety ignored?

No, the Republicans know that when they gave obie money he passed it along to his buddies and shit didn't get done. Where's all those shovel ready jobs?

You're in desperate need of a reality check. You're not smart enough to be a beneficiary of a plutocrat or the power elite - that observation is made from you posts and the fact that you have no concern at all for the people Trump chose to nominate for his cabinet. Only a fool is unconcerned, and you fit that mold.

 

[Camp]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

^^^ Iceweasel for budget secretary, lets start a grass roots campaign!

If was up to me we'd have money left over to pave the streets in gold.

The federal government has spent close to $40 trillion dollars in just the last 10 years. What did we get for all that money? Holy shit $40 trillion, that's 40,000 billion. Their incompetence is mind boggling. These dumb asses blew $45 million building a natural gas filling station in Afghanistan...and since there are no vehicles in Afghanistan that run on natural gas the station sit there in mothballs.

If we assume that Trump will fix all incompetence and waste in government and make the government the most efficient government in American history, there is still left the dilemma that any infrastructure program will rely on government funding and hence, government means of production, the very definition of socialism. The OP question is how will Trump convince those who have been indoctrinated into a hatred of anything remotely related to socialism to accept his proposals. How can his proposals for rebuilding American infrastructure succeed without the change of attitude that all socialist programs are bad and must be avoided? At some point. the attitude towards socialist-tinged programs have got to be changed by the rightwing or Trump's proposals will never get off the ground and be nothing more than pipe dreams.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Once the divisiveness and rhetoric of the many proposals being made by Trump are put aside, there is one proposal that goes beyond the ideological, partisan and emotional proposals. That is the pragmatic proposal of rebuilding American infrastructure. Few people no matter what their politics are will be opposed to seeing jobs created in their communities that improve the infrastructure and quality of life these improvements and projects will bring to both communities and individuals.

Whether Trump can bring his proposal to fruition is, of course, the big question. It will take tax payer funding and hence, government means of production. Government means of production is a socialist foundation and main definition of socialism. Is there any other way his proposal can be accomplished without government financing?

What Trump is proposing is the greatest building of America's infrastructure since the 1930's under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The only other comparison is the Interstate Highway System done, or at least begun under President Eisenhower. Both relied on tax-payer funding and unique forms of guaranteed loans and grants to individual states. Both created infrastructure that has stood the test of time and continue to benefit America, FDR projects since the 30's and Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System since the '50's, although the Interstate Highway System was continued by Presidents that followed Eisenhower into the late 70's and continue to be added to and improved.

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of financing these huge projects can be obtained of implemented.

When the GOP has the White House, the "concerns" they have about deficit spending come to an end. It's laughable.

 

[Wry Catcher]

So, perhaps the question is whether Trump and Republicans will be willing to implement socialist-tinged projects or whether some alternate form of

My guess is reducing the federal government 20% will free up some cash.

^^^ Iceweasel for budget secretary, lets start a grass roots campaign!

If was up to me we'd have money left over to pave the streets in gold.

The federal government has spent close to $40 trillion dollars in just the last 10 years. What did we get for all that money? Holy shit $40 trillion, that's 40,000 billion. Their incompetence is mind boggling. These dumb asses blew $45 million building a natural gas filling station in Afghanistan...and since there are no vehicles in Afghanistan that run on natural gas the station sit there in mothballs.

First I've heard of this boondoggle, if true, pointing the finger at the federal government is fruitless and thoughtless. Who, When and Why are Questions to be asked. Federal Worker Bees did not build or profit from such an expenditure, it required the Congress and private contractors; the advice to "follow the money" needs to be employed before culpability is assigned.

The best way to judge culpability is to pass an Amendment to COTUS giving POTUS the line-item veto. Then boondoggles will be evident to all and the finger can be pointed at POTUS, or if the Congress overrides the veto, each member who voted to override the veto can be blamed.

 

[AntonToo]

Of course they will, why wouldn't big government spending bring people together? It's not like rightwing Trumpsters know what consistency is.