Trump's Ice Director says Families separated in Deportation can 'Voluntarily' reunify by Leaving US!

[daveman]

How many productive workers can you deport without crashing the US economy?

Here’s What’ll Happen to the Economy if We Deport Undocumented Immigrants

"With the U.S. Census Bureau estimating the population to be close to 319 million people, the issue focuses on a very small segment, 3.5%, of the entire U.S. population.

"According to a 2017 Pew Research Center study, there were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States in 2014 and 71%, or 8 million of those 11.3 million, participating in the U.S. labor force.

"This is a significantly higher percentage than the U.S. population participation rate of 49% in 2014, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates."

I will tell you what would happen if we deport all that cheap labor
wages would increase companies would be required to raise wages to attract citizens to do those jobs those illegal labor once performed
yes some prices will increase but aren't you willing to pay slightly more so American citizens can earn a living wage

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing.

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing

daveman imagines we are all still living on the American frontier.

How does a society advance from the innermost (wild-wild west) ppf to where we live today WITHOUT government? Specifically, who guarantees the "integrity" of the currency?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

You accused me of being someone who "think(s) people being dependent on government is a good thing," right?

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing.

Meanwhile, your Commie bullshit has no bearing on anything.

 

[georgephillip]

I will tell you what would happen if we deport all that cheap labor
wages would increase companies would be required to raise wages to attract citizens to do those jobs those illegal labor once performed
yes some prices will increase but aren't you willing to pay slightly more so American citizens can earn a living wage

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing.

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing

daveman imagines we are all still living on the American frontier.

How does a society advance from the innermost (wild-wild west) ppf to where we live today WITHOUT government? Specifically, who guarantees the "integrity" of the currency?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

You accused me of being someone who "think(s) people being dependent on government is a good thing," right?

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing.

Meanwhile, your Commie bullshit has no bearing on anything.

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing

Look at this diagram:

The innermost curve (ppf) is a hand-to-mouth, frontier existence,
An overwhelming majority of residents need to spend virtually every dollar on consumption in order to stay alive.
It isn't possible to shift to the outer curve unless a majority of society are willing to trust some institution to guarantee the integrity of their investment options.
Government is the best choice I've seen.
Do you see another choice?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

 

[jasonnfree]

Latinos are above immigration law? They don't have to follow the laws? And, like the golden children they are, they get special status and sanctuary from laws that everyone else that ever immigrated here before.. Well, let me guess; since we outlawed slavery, it's OK to exploit people, than legitimize exploiting them because (cynically laugh) its "Humanitarian"? And then ignore and dehumanize American jobless poor living in the streets because...they are crap?...this is what liberals do. Reminds me of the old Monty python skit. Contrarians to the end.

Latinos are above immigration law? They don't have to follow the laws? And, like the golden children they are, they get special status and sanctuary from laws that everyone else that ever immigrated here before.

How would you feel if they were your children.
Close the immigrant concentration camps, free the children

fist of all I wouldn't break the law to have my children removed from me And if I did break the law requiring my children to be removed its will be my own dam fault and I would be grateful to the government for sheltering and feeding my kids

fist of all I wouldn't break the law to have my children removed from me And if I did break the law requiring my children to be removed its will be my own dam fault and I would be grateful to the government for sheltering and feeding my kids

How would you feel if the government killed your children, particularly if you believed their deaths were designed to discourage future asylum seekers?

24 immigrants have died in ICE custody during the Trump administration

"Twenty-four immigrants have died in ICE custody during the Trump administration, according to an NBC News analysis of federal data.

"At least four others, including Medina Leon, died shortly after being released from ICE custody.

"The number of in-custody deaths remains below the peak of 32 deaths in 2004, the first full calendar year records were kept.

"The tally does not include migrants, including five children, who have died in the custody of other federal agencies."

yes because I would blame the government for trying to save my dehydrated child's life after I dragged my child hundreds of miles through a desert with little or no water

What if you had no other choice but to come here to apply for asylum, which is not a crime?

 

[daveman]

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing.

George is one of those folks who think people being dependent of government is a good thing

daveman imagines we are all still living on the American frontier.

How does a society advance from the innermost (wild-wild west) ppf to where we live today WITHOUT government? Specifically, who guarantees the "integrity" of the currency?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

You accused me of being someone who "think(s) people being dependent on government is a good thing," right?

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing.

Meanwhile, your Commie bullshit has no bearing on anything.

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing

Look at this diagram:

The innermost curve (ppf) is a hand-to-mouth, frontier existence,
An overwhelming majority of residents need to spend virtually every dollar on consumption in order to stay alive.
It isn't possible to shift to the outer curve unless a majority of society are willing to trust some institution to guarantee the integrity of their investment options.
Government is the best choice I've seen.
Do you see another choice?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

Look, I know you're too incompetent to live your own life and thus need Almighty Government to take care of you cradle to grave, but not everybody is a huge loser like you.

 

[georgephillip]

daveman imagines we are all still living on the American frontier.

How does a society advance from the innermost (wild-wild west) ppf to where we live today WITHOUT government? Specifically, who guarantees the "integrity" of the currency?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

You accused me of being someone who "think(s) people being dependent on government is a good thing," right?

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing.

Meanwhile, your Commie bullshit has no bearing on anything.

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing

Look at this diagram:

The innermost curve (ppf) is a hand-to-mouth, frontier existence,
An overwhelming majority of residents need to spend virtually every dollar on consumption in order to stay alive.
It isn't possible to shift to the outer curve unless a majority of society are willing to trust some institution to guarantee the integrity of their investment options.
Government is the best choice I've seen.
Do you see another choice?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

Look, I know you're too incompetent to live your own life and thus need Almighty Government to take care of you cradle to grave, but not everybody is a huge loser like you.

Look, I know you're too incompetent to live your own life and thus need Almighty Government to take care of you cradle to grave, but not everybody is a huge loser like you

 

[daveman]

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you poo-flinging monkey.

You accused me of being someone who "think(s) people being dependent on government is a good thing," right?

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing.

Meanwhile, your Commie bullshit has no bearing on anything.

You're a progressive liberal, right?

Then you most definitely believe people being dependent on government is a good thing

Look at this diagram:

The innermost curve (ppf) is a hand-to-mouth, frontier existence,
An overwhelming majority of residents need to spend virtually every dollar on consumption in order to stay alive.
It isn't possible to shift to the outer curve unless a majority of society are willing to trust some institution to guarantee the integrity of their investment options.
Government is the best choice I've seen.
Do you see another choice?

https://www.freeeconhelp.com/2011/07/what-causes-shifts-in-production.html

Look, I know you're too incompetent to live your own life and thus need Almighty Government to take care of you cradle to grave, but not everybody is a huge loser like you.

Look, I know you're too incompetent to live your own life and thus need Almighty Government to take care of you cradle to grave, but not everybody is a huge loser like you

Wow. You totally didn't read that before you posted it...because it completely proves my point and disproves yours.

 

[MaryL]

I see homeless Americans growing in HUGE numbers. Living in filth and squalor...But Prog Libs don't have a problem with that. In fact, they blame poor Americans for their situation ... But Latin Americans that overpopulate and cant handle their own, they are entitled to violate international immigration law and barge in like prima donnas...Because, Hispanics are so much more SPECIAL than everyone else? And their specialness must explain why Hispanics don't have to follow federal immigration law. And Hispanics don't get trashed for being poor and needy, though by these same Libs that hate white poor adore poor Hispanic needy . Being Hispanic is the nearest thing libs have to saints. Remind me again, what makes Hispanics "ubber alles"? Oh, remind me why Hispanic illegal aliens receive sanctuary cities without the consent of the voting public? How democrats never ever asked local constituency if WE wanted to to give Latin American illegal immigrants sanctuary from immigration laws? Ones that are fair and applicable to every other immigrant from other times/counties? Seems illegal and unconstitutional.

 

[MaryL]

I love Mexican culture I really do. But Mexicans still have to follow the same immigration protocols everyone else has. AOC or I may not be up on federal immigration law. Violating immigration law? Its not statutory, like say, speed limits or rape. But the ambiguity of violating immigration laws isn't something to be ignored. Think, say smuggling drugs or guns or say, interstate drug commerce or child porn on the internet. And lets say, sanctuary cities maybe unconstitutional. Because, basically, nobody gave it their sanction. Oddly enough, nobody got to approve of it. It superseded the will of the people, and it was never on any ballot. So, hence, sanctuary cities are unconstitutional and illegal .

 

[daveman]

I love Mexican culture I really do. But Mexicans still have to follow the same immigration protocols everyone else has. AOC or I may not be up on federal immigration law. Violating immigration law? Its not statutory, like say, speed limits or rape. But the ambiguity of violating immigration laws isn't something to be ignored. Think, say smuggling drugs or guns or say, interstate drug commerce or child porn on the internet. And lets say, sanctuary cities maybe unconstitutional. Because, basically, nobody gave it their sanction. Oddly enough, nobody got to approve of it. It superseded the will of the people, and it was never on any ballot. So, hence, sanctuary cities are unconstitutional and illegal .

Well, it's not like the ironically-named Democratic Party actually gives a shit what the people think. They'll decide what you want, and You Will Like It.

Liberalism: Ideas So Good They Have To Be Mandated By Threat Of Government Violence

 

[lennypartiv]

Acting ICE director said families separated in upcoming deportation raids can "voluntarily" reunify by choosing to leave U.S. with loved ones

Sounds like a good deal to me.