CDZ Trump's economy

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    Trump says he'll build America great again; the policies, the infrastructure and all. And since there are so many fans excited about it, I'd like them to tell how Trump is going to keep his proposed system going; low faxes, cheap healthcare, good education, build everything and the wall, and the criminals will be put away (where?). And then there's the immigrants and the drugs that will find a way through, with or without the wall.

    I've never heard Trump say how he will do it. He's an idea of how to begin - an unethical idea, but an idea nonetheless - but not a whisper of later times. My suspicion is he doesn't give a crap, but what about those who think he's a hearty man?
     
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    How about opening your eyes and shutting your yap?
     
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    Nah
     
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    Trump is vague I agree.

    I think he's a bit of a protectionist which I support.

    I think he believes lower taxes will pump the economy and the GDP increase will offset the deficit. Not the most ridiculous idea. We'll have to see how far he takes it and what taxes he lowers. I'm skeptical of how he will apply this.

    I think his/the GOP healthcare plan is not THE WORST thing ever. If they would admit "everyone gets treated at the socialist Emergency Room so everyone has to have insurance" we could go from there. The age based vs income based insurance assistance plan seems dubious, then again I wan the poor to have SOME KIND of insurance so I don't have to carry them along more than the average man.

    Really I disagree with Trump quite a bit but you are civil and I'll debate.
     
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    Trump, in order to get the companies to stay in America, will pay tax payers' money as subsidies to bribe them to stay. He will also, though he says the wages are too low, lower the minimum wage. It is likely the wages will be lowered and though the corporate taxes will be lower they may save more by paying less to workers. Of course it remains to be seen, but it's kind of controversial. What is he going to do, lower the minimum wage and verbally encourage people to pay more than they have to? It's a bit like lowering taxes and asking people to pay more if they want to.

    With the taxes he's proposing, the estimated amount America will "lack" in a decade is 10 trillion dollars. Over the decade after that it is estimated to be some 14 trillion dollars.

    So in order to make that happen there would be huge cuts. Federal spending would need at least a 20% cut. Which could be 100% of defence, 82% of domestic or 41% of Medicare and social security.

    Trump says he will not cut from Medicare nor social security which leaves it all to be cut from defence (he sounds like he won't) or domestic programmes (an enormous amount, can't be done).

    The debt at the moment which he swears to reduce is 18,4 trillion dollars. With his proposal in taxes, though he hasn't yet made a spending proposal, the public debt should increase, in about eight years, from 74% to 125%.

    The experts, many of them, believe it is not possible to reduce debt without cutting from Medicare, Medicaid and social security which take over half of all government spending. Still, Trump doesn't believe it. Or maybe just doesn't want to be the one to tell the people of any such cuts.

    He says America will profit from cutting of the waste of money to such things as the department of education and environmental protection. However, these have gotten less than 3% of the money in the last year. EPA got 7 billion, education 90 billion and planned parenthood 450 million. Saving that money does not help America out of its debts and even the act of cutting it is silly.
     
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    But first read The Art of the Deal.
     
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    Are you familiar enough with it to answer the question or say where he stands now?
     
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    I would say that he is negotiating for better deals for the U.S.

    And making the MSM look like fools.
     
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    If this is what we are talking about, NAFTA is not something I support. We can debate if pumping the Mexican economy with our money has long term benefits but in the short term burning NAFTA has to be better for the U.S. I agree.
     
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    What kind of deals are you referring to exactly?
     

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