Trumps climate panel meets today!!

[skookerasbil]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh...….by the way...….for the climate change flat earthers, this is happening because it can. There might be a 97% consensus, but that is just among a small group of scientists. There are many others who need to be heard...…..obviously. Because to date, the public isn't buying the current "consensus".....that much is crystal clear.

 

[OldLady]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

No one said C02 is the only thing driving climate change. It is the one we can partially control. If we stop being stupid.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We can't control CO2. We can't control India or China. The most Americans can do is drool in their cereal and watch it snow in Malibu.

 

[Toronado3800]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

So what you are saying is CO2 is ONE, not the only thing but ONE of the things which can cause warming or cooling?

 

[skookerasbil]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

So what you are saying is CO2 is ONE, not the only thing but ONE of the things which can cause warming or cooling?

Exactly

 

[Toronado3800]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

So what you are saying is CO2 is ONE, not the only thing but ONE of the things which can cause warming or cooling?

Exactly

So if we were entering an ice age, releasing CO2 would help maintain the temperature but maynot be enough because of the other factors?

 

[skookerasbil]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

So what you are saying is CO2 is ONE, not the only thing but ONE of the things which can cause warming or cooling?

Exactly

So if we were entering an ice age, releasing CO2 would help maintain the temperature but maynot be enough because of the other factors?

Who the hell knows but this CO2 as the only causative factor is beyond silly. At the end of the day, hoping the panel determines what is so painfully obvious: that we still dont know dick about the dynamics of climate change.

 

[Slade3200]

We can't control CO2. We can't control India or China. The most Americans can do is drool in their cereal and watch it snow in Malibu.

“We can’t”?! Now that’s not a very American way of speaking!

Question, if we could control or at least work with China and India on environmental issues do you think we should?

 

[Slade3200]

Woo Hoo…….finally some modern optics on climate change instead of the dinosaur contingent of the AGW crowd. Headed up by this guy Happer who is supported by many climate scientists by the way!

Meet the CO2-Praising Physicist Behind Latest Trump Climate Push

Looking like we will get some fresh new perspective on the issue of climate change which takes into account a broader view of what drives climate instead of this nutty idea that only CO2 drives the climate! Looking VERY forward to the recommendations!! Another Trump win!

Good, any positive energy put into environmental issues I’m all for. Maybe we can get off this all or nothing death cycle and actually start doing something with a solid consensus.

 

[abu afak]

Man Who Compared The "Demonization Of Carbon Dioxide" To The Holocaust Is Spearheading Trump's New Climate Panel
By Rosie McCall
21 FEB 2019, 15:21
Man Who Compared The 'Demonization Of Carbon Dioxide' To The Holocaust Is Spearheading Trump's New Climate Panel

....This panel's role, documents reveal, is "to advise the President on scientific understanding of today’s climate, how the climate might change in the future under natural and human influences, and how a changing climate could affect the security of the United States."

But critics argue the committee is a transparent attempt to undermine accepted climate science. The document continues, falsely saying the science has "not undergone a rigorous independent and adversarial peer review to examine the certainties and uncertainties of climate science, as well as implications for national security.”

Not only does the panel fly in the face of reams and reams of evidence showing, in no uncertain terms, that climate change will affect national security (and public health and food security), but it is being spearheaded by William Happer, a senior director at the National Security Council, an emeritus professor of physics at Princeton University – and a big old climate change denier. For the record, Happer has managed to accomplish something even Trump and his band of climate skeptics have so far avoided and that is to break Godwin's law.

In 2014, he compared the vilification of CO2 to the Holocaust, saying, “The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler. Carbon dioxide is actually a benefit to the world, and so were the Jews."

In the past, Happer has received payment in the thousands from a fossil fuel company called Peabody Coal in exchange for his testimony at a Minnesota Public Utilities Commission hearing. That money was funneled into the CO2 Coalition, one of two climate-skeptic advocacy groups Happer is involved with as a board member. The second being the George C. Marshall Institute.
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Only last month, the threat of climate change to national security was confirmed by not one but two federal reports. The first, conducted by the Pentagon, concluded rising sea levels and climate-induced extreme weather events are already affecting military bases in the US – and it's only going to get worse. The second, by Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, found "Global environmental and ecological degradation, as well as climate change, are likely to fuel competition for resources, economic distress, and social discontent through 2019 and beyond."

But despite all the evidence, Trump and the White House have continued to deny and undermine climate science that shows human actions are largely to blame for changes to Earth's climate – from his tweets during the polar vortex to his dismantling of Obama-era regulations and his exit from the Paris Agreement. This, it seems, is just the latest.
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[skookerasbil]

We can't control CO2. We can't control India or China. The most Americans can do is drool in their cereal and watch it snow in Malibu.

“We can’t”?! Now that’s not a very American way of speaking!

Question, if we could control or at least work with China and India on environmental issues do you think we should?

That's the thing....China and India dont give a shit. Anybody who crows these countries are going green is either a mental case or a fake. Renewables for them are but a token gesture....they just want to be in the game for economic benefit....duh....has nothing to do with the climate. Coal is king in China and India and will be for DECADES!! The growth graphs for China renewables as presented by climate crusader guys are never compared next to other sources of energy. It's called fakery.

 

[skookerasbil]

Man Who Compared The "Demonization Of Carbon Dioxide" To The Holocaust Is Spearheading Trump's New Climate Panel
By Rosie McCall
21 FEB 2019, 15:21
Man Who Compared The 'Demonization Of Carbon Dioxide' To The Holocaust Is Spearheading Trump's New Climate Panel

....This panel's role, documents reveal, is "to advise the President on scientific understanding of today’s climate, how the climate might change in the future under natural and human influences, and how a changing climate could affect the security of the United States."

But critics argue the committee is a transparent attempt to undermine accepted climate science. The document continues, falsely saying the science has "not undergone a rigorous independent and adversarial peer review to examine the certainties and uncertainties of climate science, as well as implications for national security.”

Not only does the panel fly in the face of reams and reams of evidence showing, in no uncertain terms, that climate change will affect national security (and public health and food security), but it is being spearheaded by William Happer, a senior director at the National Security Council, an emeritus professor of physics at Princeton University – and a big old climate change denier. For the record, Happer has managed to accomplish something even Trump and his band of climate skeptics have so far avoided and that is to break Godwin's law.

In 2014, he compared the vilification of CO2 to the Holocaust, saying, “The demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler. Carbon dioxide is actually a benefit to the world, and so were the Jews."

In the past, Happer has received payment in the thousands from a fossil fuel company called Peabody Coal in exchange for his testimony at a Minnesota Public Utilities Commission hearing. That money was funneled into the CO2 Coalition, one of two climate-skeptic advocacy groups Happer is involved with as a board member. The second being the George C. Marshall Institute.
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Only last month, the threat of climate change to national security was confirmed by not one but two federal reports. The first, conducted by the Pentagon, concluded rising sea levels and climate-induced extreme weather events are already affecting military bases in the US – and it's only going to get worse. The second, by Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, found "Global environmental and ecological degradation, as well as climate change, are likely to fuel competition for resources, economic distress, and social discontent through 2019 and beyond."

But despite all the evidence, Trump and the White House have continued to deny and undermine climate science that shows human actions are largely to blame for changes to Earth's climate – from his tweets during the polar vortex to his dismantling of Obama-era regulations and his exit from the Paris Agreement. This, it seems, is just the latest.
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Nobody cares s0n....he's on the panel that will provide fresh optics on climate change! Tough shit on you! You are like the bozo's trying to defend Smollet.....nobody cares!

 

[abu afak]

Nobody cares s0n....he's on the panel that will provide fresh optics on climate change! Tough shit on you! You are like the bozo's trying to defend Smollet.....nobody cares!

"NOBODY CARES" is your most common post.
But YOU make Most of your posts in this little section.

YOU MORON, Obviously YOU CARE.

YOU ARE A TROLL

IF YOU DON'T CARE, DON'T POST.

LEAVE, YOU STUPID, DROOLING, DICK-SUCKING, JUVENILE MORON

STOP TROLLING.

AND TAKE THE INCOMPETENT BIASED MOD/S WHO ALLOW IT WITH YOU.
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[skookerasbil]

Nobody cares s0n....he's on the panel that will provide fresh optics on climate change! Tough shit on you! You are like the bozo's trying to defend Smollet.....nobody cares!

"NOBODY CARES" is your most common post.
But YOU make Most of your posts in this little section.

YOU MORON, Obviously YOU CARE.

YOU ARE A TROLL

IF YOU DON'T CARE, DON'T POST.

LEAVE, YOU STUPID DROOLING DICK-SUCKING JUVENILE MORON

STOP TROLLING.

AND TAKE THE INCOMPETENT BIASED MOD/S WHO ALLOW IT WITH YOU.
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Big picture perspective s0n....which is the only thing that matters. Your post on Happer actually takes the "troll" hit. He is the most prolific scientist on the panel despite your troll effort. His input will be historic as it will serve to change the goofball narrative that's been rejected over the past 20 and will make the optics far more digestible to the public. Too bad if it doesnt conform with your matrix/zombie views. Tough shit on you!!

Remember s0n....big picture. Noise = nobody cares!

 

[Slade3200]

We can't control CO2. We can't control India or China. The most Americans can do is drool in their cereal and watch it snow in Malibu.

“We can’t”?! Now that’s not a very American way of speaking!

Question, if we could control or at least work with China and India on environmental issues do you think we should?

That's the thing....China and India dont give a shit. Anybody who crows these countries are going green is either a mental case or a fake. Renewables for them are but a token gesture....they just want to be in the game for economic benefit....duh....has nothing to do with the climate. Coal is king in China and India and will be for DECADES!! The growth graphs for China renewables as presented by climate crusader guys are never compared next to other sources of energy. It's called fakery.

We have a lot of power as a world leader in trade, economics and military. I think anything we can do to influence other countries to be as environmentally friendly as possible is a good thing, wouldn’t you agree?

I just don’t understand the “since they are bad we can be bad” or “green has little impact on the climate so we shouldn’t try to go green” arguments.

We all share this beautiful world, we should always do what we can to preserve protect and be as clean as possible. That’s a no brainer.

Yes we need to be careful with how we regulate and how restrictive we are to businesses but we should always be innovating and pushing forward for a cleaner world not giving up and dismissing. I hope we can agree on that.

 

[skookerasbil]

We can't control CO2. We can't control India or China. The most Americans can do is drool in their cereal and watch it snow in Malibu.

“We can’t”?! Now that’s not a very American way of speaking!

Question, if we could control or at least work with China and India on environmental issues do you think we should?

That's the thing....China and India dont give a shit. Anybody who crows these countries are going green is either a mental case or a fake. Renewables for them are but a token gesture....they just want to be in the game for economic benefit....duh....has nothing to do with the climate. Coal is king in China and India and will be for DECADES!! The growth graphs for China renewables as presented by climate crusader guys are never compared next to other sources of energy. It's called fakery.

We have a lot of power as a world leader in trade, economics and military. I think anything we can do to influence other countries to be as environmentally friendly as possible is a good thing, wouldn’t you agree?

I just don’t understand the “since they are bad we can be bad” or “green has little impact on the climate so we shouldn’t try to go green” arguments.

We all share this beautiful world, we should always do what we can to preserve protect and be as clean as possible. That’s a no brainer.

Yes we need to be careful with how we regulate and how restrictive we are to businesses but we should always be innovating and pushing forward for a cleaner world not giving up and dismissing. I hope we can agree on that.

Agreed 100%....however. current renewables far far too expensive. Innovation is needed and NOT via government btw....they need to get the fuck out of the way!