TrumpCare, not good if you live in a GOP controlled state

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    basically the ACA is gone. It will be up to the states if the ins companies will be allowed to charge more for pre-existing conditions. Not good, because as you know if you live in a GOP controlled state they will give the Ins companies free rein to do whatever they want.
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    In 2020, the new health care plan proposed by Senators Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy and others replaces funding for the ACA’s Medicaid expansion and individual insurance market subsidies with a block grant program funded through 2026. States would have broad flexibility to use the funds and ability to waive ACA insurance rules, such as prohibiting higher premiums for those with pre-existing conditions, to establish health coverage programs for their residents. The plan would also cap federal funding for the Medicaid program on a per-enrollee basis beginning in 2020.

    The redistribution of funding among states would cause some large shifts for particular states. Five states would see a reduction of 30 percent or more for the 2020-2026 period: New York (-35%), Oregon (-32%), Connecticut (-31%), Vermont (-31%) and Minnesota (-30%). Six states would see at least a 40 percent increase in federal funding: Tennessee (44%), South Dakota (45%), Georgia (46%), Kansas (61%), Texas (75%), and Mississippi (148%). In actual dollars, the states with the largest potential loss in federal funds for the same period are California, New York, and Pennsylvania. Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, and Mississippi would see the largest increase in actual dollars.

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    Beyond repealing many provisions of the ACA, the Graham-Cassidy plan, like the Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA) the Senate voted down in July, would convert the Medicaid program’s open-ended federal funding to a capped per-enrollee allotment to most states going forward from 2020. Under the plan, nearly all states would see a decrease in federal Medicaid funding for a $53 billion decline nationally from 2020 to 2026.


    Graham-Cassidy-Heller-Johnson Plan to Replace ACA Funding With a New Block Grant and Cap Medicaid Would Decrease Federal Funding for States by $160 Billion from 2020-2026; Then a $240 Billion Loss in 2027 if the Law is Not Reauthorized
     
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    I wish. Unfortunately, most of it remains intact. This is exactly what we told you would happen. Regulations get re-regulated. It's fine and dandy when your fav is in power. But when they're not, you get fucked. That's why we don't want every single aspect of society regulated by government. Health care simply doesn't need to be - and shouldn't be - a political issue.
     
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    "Affordable Care Act." It is a lie.

    Nothing was ever "Affordable" about it.

    There is no medical "Care" being provided, unless you count the sort provided to the Jews in the concentration camps in Germany and Poland in the 1930s. Pulling their teeth for the gold in their fillings, making lampshades out of their skin, etc., etc.

    Nevertheless it is an "Act" of Congress, very much in effect fulfilling its intended purposes.
     
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    The issues with the United States heath care system is not with the government, in fact by letting the government have a hand in it before fixing the root of the problem is making things worse. At its core, the United States has chosen to rely heavily on privatized healthcare instead of government-regulated healthcare. According to World Bank in 2014, the Americans spent approximately 8.861% of their gross domestic product on private healthcare. Meanwhile in Canada, where Americans are supposedly basing their healthcare off, the spending was only 3.038 % of their gross domestic product (Health expenditure, private (% of GDP) | Data). If you wish to compare quality for health though and how the United States spends comparatively look no farther than the top three countries for heath, as found by Bisiness Insider in 2012. These countries are France spending 2.515% of their gross domestic product, according to World Bank, Italy spending 2.255%, and San Marino with only 0.393% of their gross domestic product (These Are The 36 Countries That Have Better Healthcare Systems Than The US). So if Americans are spending more on healthcare than other countries then why are they not getting better care? According to Dan Murno of Forbes these prices are all based on a pricing index created by the RUC of that hospital, a secrete club of doctors who one must be invited into (Healthcare's Pricing Cabal). One could try to shop around because prices are different hospital to hospital. However, it should be pointed out that when someone you love is in critical condition you are not going to care about the cost. In essence, Americans do not have a choice when it comes to big procedures that could mean life or death for a loved one. Americans have been asking the government to fix the issue for them but the government has not been attacking the root of the issue. By not attacking the problem at its root but instead pointing the finger at the health insurance companies, and those without health insurance, we allow the issue to continue and get worse. The American healthcare system does need to be regulated, but like a weed in the garden one should not just rip off the leaves but pull out the roots. Insurance is supposed to help you pay for any medical issues over time before they show up. As a direct result if prices go up insurance has to go up as well, making it unaffordable to have for those of a lower economic status. This means lower economic groups have to forgo insurance and pay out of pocket. The “Obamacare” system tried to fix the problem but went after the wrong issue allowing the issue to persist. Our health is so privatized it may be harder to attack than it seems but attacking the wrong group does not help the issue.
     
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    You cons really make me sick. I have this con family I’ve known since childhood. Racist gun loving Christians. Rush and Fox fans.

    Never mind the one son who’s anti government but on disability. Never mind the middle one who’s almost as big of a loser. Let’s talk about the good one. These guys voted against Obamacare. So now the small business owner one, the good son, his wife got cancer. They can’t afford the $7000 premium so they had to have a fund raiser. Sad. Pathetic. But I suppose they are getting what they deserve. How can I feel sorry for anyone who voted against nationalized medicine for all?

    Now the insurance should throw his wife off the plan because now she has a pre existing condition
     
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    Why are so many Americans crowdfunding their healthcare?

    Online donation sites are booming as patients with little or no health insurance turn to strangers to help pay medical costs

    Shame America.

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    Why are so many Americans crowdfunding their healthcare?

    In the US, where healthcare is not a human right, any serious illness comes with a financial shock. The average cost of hospital stays for cancer patients in 2015 was $31,390, according to government figures — about half that year’s median household income. The most common form of childhood cancer costs on average $292,000 to treat

    For the most fortunate Americans, these costs are covered by comprehensive insurance plans. For millions of others, they are a potentially crippling burden.

    And this was my friend, Mr. Republican, who ended up not being able to afford it. And did he ask for a loan? Nope. He has his hand out and doesn't want to pay people back. Why? We work hard for our money. We went to college. We have affordable healthcare because we planned ahead. God I want to lay into my buddy who's wife has cancer and say see you hypocrite ignorant bastard! You fought so hard against nationalized medicine. You wanted the government to stay out. You didn't want to pay taxes that would help someone else. Well now it's you who needs it and you have to have a fundraiser. Loser.

    What about the people who don't have rich friends who can donate so generously?
     
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    Oh well.
    I guess the losers can all move to california.
     

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