Trump would be correct to assert a national emergency in order to build the wall

[Porter Rockwell]

You would have to reword your entire posting before my dumb ass could understand it.

I'm not gloating that the posterity of the founders (i.e. the white people) are dying off. I've worked for the last few decades trying to warn them of the subtle genocide of whites by non-whites.

They can preach all the horse dung on God's green earth about equality, anti-discrimination themes, etc., but rest assured that most of the non-white voters in the United States see you as a perceived enemy and our system based upon Anglo Saxon laws as impediments to what they want. And so the non-whites wage a cultural war removing the statues, monuments, memorials, and plaques that speak to our history. They bitched about the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate when that was absolute B.S. and once they've run out of the aforementioned items to eliminate, they will want to change the U.S. flag - the one that flew over the White House when the Dred Scott decision went down.

Throughout history, even in the Bible, the mixing of cultures, races, religions, differing political opinions, sexual persuasions etc. has always resulted in the fall of that civilization. In the Bible the people "sought to be one" and that precipitated God destroying Tower of Babel. Same thing happened with the Roman Empire.

Those playing into the hands of the globalists are insuring the demise of the white people. Every couple of years I watch helplessly as people refuse sound counsel and fall by the wayside. I've known many that have been put in prison, jail, flipped by the LEO community... even killed. Each year we accept more liberalism, more Big Brother Government, more tyranny and I get sick of saying I told you so while people like you play into their hands and end up licking the boots of the slave masters - even praising them for selling you into slavery.

So, why are you against the idea of a wall, to prevent people coming in, over and above what is already too many allowed by law?

I've been over this with you how many times now? You looking for the next guy to try and shoot me down? Good luck.

1) The number ONE reason that your question is wrong is that Congress has NO AUTHORITY - NONE WHATSOEVER to prevent people from coming here to take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. That, sir is why your solution is socialist.

BEFORE all this B.S. got started the employer owned the job they created. The man who owned a house or apartment owned his property.

Today the government tries to tell us who we have to hire, rent to, buy from, etc. and you're going right along with the program. When America was America, you got a job by working for someone who would later vouch for you by way of a phone call or U.S. Snail Mail letter. Now, we do "background checks" and take the word of a corrupt government. It used to be you did not have to hire someone based on their color or sexual orientation. You hired who would do the best job

2) Next, information is power. Throwing up a wall and thinking it will keep people out is wishful thinking. In fact, it created the pretext necessary for the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap. Let's talk about that:

The same man who gave you the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify bill is one and the same who gave you the so - called "Patriot Act." Most recently he has added to his socialist ID schemes with enhanced DNA laws. He also introduced the Build the Wall Act. Many of his socialist solutions have been ruled to be unconstitutional in the courts.

This massive abuse of your Right to Privacy gives the government unfettered access to every aspect of your life, the worst outcome being that the people will never be able to organize a resistance to tyrannical government.

1. A nation, or any group with no ability to define itself, will cease to exist in short order. And this nation has had immigration policies for a very long time.


2. Nothing in your post, supports your primary point, ie that walls don't work. YOu were insulting, and you made a lot of assertions. And you attacked the source of the idea. But you at not point, supported your conclusion.

1) Since the immigration laws you cite have been on the books, the whites have become a virtual minority in the U.S.

2) You haven't proven walls do work.

Six Historians on Why Trump’s Border Wall Won’t Work – Rolling Stone

Why the Wall Won't Work

Why Walls Don't Work, by Michael Dear

Why Trump's Emergency Mexico Border Wall Won't Actually Work

Border walls are going up globally at a dizzying pace — but history teaches us that walls don’t work

Walls don’t work

Trump’s border wall will not work ‘no matter how high’, scientists warn

Letter: History shows us: Walls don't work

TRUMP HIMSELF ADMITTED WALLS WON'T WORK

'The Daily Show' found an old Trump speech encouraging people to climb concrete walls

Ted Whidby: Walls don’t work, and Republicans like Reagan knew it

Along the border, many Texans support President Trump but don’t want a wall

So far I have scientists, historians, think tank groups, BUSINESSINSIDER (i.e. prominent business leaders), Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and the leaders of the most affected states disagreeing with your position. Those with the most real life exposure DISAGREE with you.

2) Your alleged impact on wages was successfully refuted

3) You're making an argument for socialism. You cannot sustain it.

Do you agree with Beto that existing barriers should be dismantled?

It's not my call. That decision should be left to those who are most impacted by it. We should not be in the business of sticking our noses into everyone else's business. How do you think we got into this predicament in the first place? That government that governs least, governs best.

 

[Correll]

So, why are you against the idea of a wall, to prevent people coming in, over and above what is already too many allowed by law?

I've been over this with you how many times now? You looking for the next guy to try and shoot me down? Good luck.

1) The number ONE reason that your question is wrong is that Congress has NO AUTHORITY - NONE WHATSOEVER to prevent people from coming here to take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. That, sir is why your solution is socialist.

BEFORE all this B.S. got started the employer owned the job they created. The man who owned a house or apartment owned his property.

Today the government tries to tell us who we have to hire, rent to, buy from, etc. and you're going right along with the program. When America was America, you got a job by working for someone who would later vouch for you by way of a phone call or U.S. Snail Mail letter. Now, we do "background checks" and take the word of a corrupt government. It used to be you did not have to hire someone based on their color or sexual orientation. You hired who would do the best job

2) Next, information is power. Throwing up a wall and thinking it will keep people out is wishful thinking. In fact, it created the pretext necessary for the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap. Let's talk about that:

The same man who gave you the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify bill is one and the same who gave you the so - called "Patriot Act." Most recently he has added to his socialist ID schemes with enhanced DNA laws. He also introduced the Build the Wall Act. Many of his socialist solutions have been ruled to be unconstitutional in the courts.

This massive abuse of your Right to Privacy gives the government unfettered access to every aspect of your life, the worst outcome being that the people will never be able to organize a resistance to tyrannical government.

1. A nation, or any group with no ability to define itself, will cease to exist in short order. And this nation has had immigration policies for a very long time.


2. Nothing in your post, supports your primary point, ie that walls don't work. YOu were insulting, and you made a lot of assertions. And you attacked the source of the idea. But you at not point, supported your conclusion.

1) Since the immigration laws you cite have been on the books, the whites have become a virtual minority in the U.S.

2) You haven't proven walls do work.

Six Historians on Why Trump’s Border Wall Won’t Work – Rolling Stone

Why the Wall Won't Work

Why Walls Don't Work, by Michael Dear

Why Trump's Emergency Mexico Border Wall Won't Actually Work

Border walls are going up globally at a dizzying pace — but history teaches us that walls don’t work

Walls don’t work

Trump’s border wall will not work ‘no matter how high’, scientists warn

Letter: History shows us: Walls don't work

TRUMP HIMSELF ADMITTED WALLS WON'T WORK

'The Daily Show' found an old Trump speech encouraging people to climb concrete walls

Ted Whidby: Walls don’t work, and Republicans like Reagan knew it

Along the border, many Texans support President Trump but don’t want a wall

So far I have scientists, historians, think tank groups, BUSINESSINSIDER (i.e. prominent business leaders), Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and the leaders of the most affected states disagreeing with your position. Those with the most real life exposure DISAGREE with you.

2) Your alleged impact on wages was successfully refuted

3) You're making an argument for socialism. You cannot sustain it.

1. And you are arguing to make the situation even worse.

2. THere are examples of walls working and not working. THey can work. Would ONE example of a wall working be enough for you?


3. So, you don't believe that increased supply leads to decreased price? If you can prove that one, I can promise you a Noble Prize in economics.


4. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production. Controlling who and what enters our nation is not that.

1) It has been pointed out to you time and time and time again, we were winning this war BEFORE your side got involved. I have NOTHING to do with the situation. YOU DO. It's YOUR side's policies that are grabbing the headlines; it's YOUR side in charge. You made the situation worse. Had it not been for dumbasses like you, we'd have won the war a decade ago.


2) Walls do not work. Short term solutions are no solution at all AND you forget that we are not some pissant country that is not the center of the world's attention.

3) You have so little faith in what you believe that you ignored an honest wager.

According to Donald Trump, he keeps saying that there are more jobs under his administration; wages are rising; our economy is getting better. So, which lie is the correct one? You cannot have it both ways.

Either wages are rising AND more job opportunities happened WITHOUT a wall or they did not. Seems that you cannot decide what side of the lie you should be on.

Dude, plain and simple:

When Americans want to go back to work, they will. We may have to wean them off the Welfare State and eliminate your POLICE STATE along with the left's Nanny State, but you don't need a wall to have border security. You don't even believe it. That is why you like to argue it - some are wondering who you're trying to convince - me or yourself.

You even have your supply and demand concepts confused. Americans demand the foreigners be here. How do you stop that? In my neighborhood, if these asshole white boys that live in mommy's basement, making $650 a month on a debit card for food and various other welfare handouts were cut off, they'd go back to work and your problems would be solved. There are more of those in my neighborhood than there are white boys under 40 that actually have a job.

So, they can live on free mommy rent, $650 on a debit card for food, and whatever other handouts they can get, but they can't live on jobs that pay $20 an hour? You are full of shit, sir.

1. How and when were we "winning" this battle?


2. Walls sometimes work.

3. Trump has increased border security some, and increased deportations, some, and the initial results are encouraging. So, let's do a lot more of that, and get even more of the good stuff.


I think I am starting to understand what is going on with you.


In the 80s, the Free Trade, unspoken subset free movement of labor, argument was the increased competition would lead to new innovation from American entrepreneurs and businessmen and in short order America would come roaring back.


That did not happen. Instead of American entrepreneurs and businessmen, found ways to adjust so that THEY would flourish in the new environment, and the American worker got shafted.


YOU can see that this situation is bad for Americans, but you are now financially invested in the new environment, and that is warping your thinking so that your answer, is to have American workers become more like Third World workers.


That is not a good policy for America.


We want policy that will be good for America over all, and Americans individually.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I've been over this with you how many times now? You looking for the next guy to try and shoot me down? Good luck.

1) The number ONE reason that your question is wrong is that Congress has NO AUTHORITY - NONE WHATSOEVER to prevent people from coming here to take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. That, sir is why your solution is socialist.

BEFORE all this B.S. got started the employer owned the job they created. The man who owned a house or apartment owned his property.

Today the government tries to tell us who we have to hire, rent to, buy from, etc. and you're going right along with the program. When America was America, you got a job by working for someone who would later vouch for you by way of a phone call or U.S. Snail Mail letter. Now, we do "background checks" and take the word of a corrupt government. It used to be you did not have to hire someone based on their color or sexual orientation. You hired who would do the best job

2) Next, information is power. Throwing up a wall and thinking it will keep people out is wishful thinking. In fact, it created the pretext necessary for the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap. Let's talk about that:

The same man who gave you the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify bill is one and the same who gave you the so - called "Patriot Act." Most recently he has added to his socialist ID schemes with enhanced DNA laws. He also introduced the Build the Wall Act. Many of his socialist solutions have been ruled to be unconstitutional in the courts.

This massive abuse of your Right to Privacy gives the government unfettered access to every aspect of your life, the worst outcome being that the people will never be able to organize a resistance to tyrannical government.

1. A nation, or any group with no ability to define itself, will cease to exist in short order. And this nation has had immigration policies for a very long time.


2. Nothing in your post, supports your primary point, ie that walls don't work. YOu were insulting, and you made a lot of assertions. And you attacked the source of the idea. But you at not point, supported your conclusion.

1) Since the immigration laws you cite have been on the books, the whites have become a virtual minority in the U.S.

2) You haven't proven walls do work.

Six Historians on Why Trump’s Border Wall Won’t Work – Rolling Stone

Why the Wall Won't Work

Why Walls Don't Work, by Michael Dear

Why Trump's Emergency Mexico Border Wall Won't Actually Work

Border walls are going up globally at a dizzying pace — but history teaches us that walls don’t work

Walls don’t work

Trump’s border wall will not work ‘no matter how high’, scientists warn

Letter: History shows us: Walls don't work

TRUMP HIMSELF ADMITTED WALLS WON'T WORK

'The Daily Show' found an old Trump speech encouraging people to climb concrete walls

Ted Whidby: Walls don’t work, and Republicans like Reagan knew it

Along the border, many Texans support President Trump but don’t want a wall

So far I have scientists, historians, think tank groups, BUSINESSINSIDER (i.e. prominent business leaders), Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and the leaders of the most affected states disagreeing with your position. Those with the most real life exposure DISAGREE with you.

2) Your alleged impact on wages was successfully refuted

3) You're making an argument for socialism. You cannot sustain it.

1. And you are arguing to make the situation even worse.

2. THere are examples of walls working and not working. THey can work. Would ONE example of a wall working be enough for you?


3. So, you don't believe that increased supply leads to decreased price? If you can prove that one, I can promise you a Noble Prize in economics.


4. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production. Controlling who and what enters our nation is not that.

1) It has been pointed out to you time and time and time again, we were winning this war BEFORE your side got involved. I have NOTHING to do with the situation. YOU DO. It's YOUR side's policies that are grabbing the headlines; it's YOUR side in charge. You made the situation worse. Had it not been for dumbasses like you, we'd have won the war a decade ago.


2) Walls do not work. Short term solutions are no solution at all AND you forget that we are not some pissant country that is not the center of the world's attention.

3) You have so little faith in what you believe that you ignored an honest wager.

According to Donald Trump, he keeps saying that there are more jobs under his administration; wages are rising; our economy is getting better. So, which lie is the correct one? You cannot have it both ways.

Either wages are rising AND more job opportunities happened WITHOUT a wall or they did not. Seems that you cannot decide what side of the lie you should be on.

Dude, plain and simple:

When Americans want to go back to work, they will. We may have to wean them off the Welfare State and eliminate your POLICE STATE along with the left's Nanny State, but you don't need a wall to have border security. You don't even believe it. That is why you like to argue it - some are wondering who you're trying to convince - me or yourself.

You even have your supply and demand concepts confused. Americans demand the foreigners be here. How do you stop that? In my neighborhood, if these asshole white boys that live in mommy's basement, making $650 a month on a debit card for food and various other welfare handouts were cut off, they'd go back to work and your problems would be solved. There are more of those in my neighborhood than there are white boys under 40 that actually have a job.

So, they can live on free mommy rent, $650 on a debit card for food, and whatever other handouts they can get, but they can't live on jobs that pay $20 an hour? You are full of shit, sir.

1. How and when were we "winning" this battle?


2. Walls sometimes work.

3. Trump has increased border security some, and increased deportations, some, and the initial results are encouraging. So, let's do a lot more of that, and get even more of the good stuff.


I think I am starting to understand what is going on with you.


In the 80s, the Free Trade, unspoken subset free movement of labor, argument was the increased competition would lead to new innovation from American entrepreneurs and businessmen and in short order America would come roaring back.


That did not happen. Instead of American entrepreneurs and businessmen, found ways to adjust so that THEY would flourish in the new environment, and the American worker got shafted.


YOU can see that this situation is bad for Americans, but you are now financially invested in the new environment, and that is warping your thinking so that your answer, is to have American workers become more like Third World workers.


That is not a good policy for America.


We want policy that will be good for America over all, and Americans individually.

1) Throughout the 1990s patriots had taken the 16th Amendment to task. They pointed out the income tax was a plank from the Communist Manifesto. Furthermore, so many smaller cases were won (and the government never appealed them ) that it inspired my own U.S. Congressman, Rep. John Linder, to introduce legislation that would effectively repeal the 16th Amendment and get rid of the income tax. That legislation would become the most researched legislative proposal in U.S. history. It was called the FAIR Tax.

Now, I don't know that the FAIR Tax was a good bill; I don't even know whether or not it would have passed. What I DO KNOW is that the wallists emptied out the patriot movement (for lack of a more descriptive adjective) and, instead of repealing the 16th Amendment, you created a pretext for keeping the 16th Amendment since (under the REAL ID Act) your Socialist Surveillance Number ....ooops "Social Security Number" became your National ID Number and we were denied the opportunity to put the 16th Amendment on trial, so to speak, in both Houses of Congress. So thank you very much for National ID - just what we needed to push us toward socialism.

In the 1970s through 1990s the patriot movement had made inroads to dismantling the 14th Amendment by pointing out that it created two classes of citizens, then tried to place the posterity of the founders into 14th Amendment jurisdiction, taking away their God given, inherent, unalienable, natural and absolute Rights, replacing them with privileges and immunities as the government sought fit to dole out. That move on your part basically nullified the Bill of Rights and by forced use of the SSN, it denied the posterity of the founders the ability to separate themselves from an illegal / de facto government. What you fail to understand, we were WINNING the fight!!!

Your false allegations that undocumented foreigners were not paying taxes gave the communists among us the pretext to hang onto that plank from the Communist Manifesto. Had you not gotten involved in that fight, you would not have mythical "anchor babies" to bitch about.

If I were to list all the fights from privacy Rights to Second Amendment Rights and from womb to the tomb surveillance to the assaults by your side on the presumption of innocence (which claimed most of the leadership of the 1970s through 1990s) this would be the longest posting in USM's history

2) Walls don't work. I've posted stuff from historians, scientists, and business leaders. You just keep repeating lies. As General George Patton said, "Fixed fortifications are a testament to the stupidity of man." Dude, if you want to be real, the only applicability a wall would have in the United States is if you were determined to reclaim America for the posterity of this country (i.e. the white race.)

3) Now that you've admitted that border security has been increased without a wall, let us also consider that too much of anything is a BAD thing. Water is good. It sustains your life. Too much of it and you drown.

The wall carries with it the past (those laws that led up to building the pretext for it) and would include the so - called "Patriot Act," National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify, warrant less searches, the repeal of the Bill of Rights, an end to the presumption of innocence, etc., etc. ad infinitum. It also means that bad laws will get drastically enforced - ASSET FORFEITURE, Constitution Free Zone, and more 24 / 7 /365 womb to the surveillance of the American people... plus a hundred or so more laws that will endanger your Right to Liberty - not that I think you would give a rat's ass.

Although I was having to vote for the lesser of two evils, you have demonstrated an absolute ignorance of recent history. That's most likely because you did not actually live it. I'm not saying you weren't alive, you were not politically and socially ACTIVE. That will always be the advantage I have over you.

For example, in 1982 the unemployment rate soared to over 10 percent. In 1986 Reagan granted "amnesty" to 3 MILLION undocumented foreigners. By the year 2000, the unemployment rate had dipped to 3.9 percent (which is almost statistical zero unemployment) and it was done WITHOUT a wall.

BEFORE 9 / 11 the unemployment rate had fallen to its lowest point since the 1950s. There is a stark contrast here. In 1953 Congress began talking about something called "Operation Wetback." In 1954 immigration officials were deporting every Hispanic they could catch... and in less than five years the unemployment DOUBLED.

The reality is, no matter how you slice it or dice it, you do NOT understand the economics of your own country. You don't understand how free enterprise works; you don't know how jobs are created; you fail to understand how more government has killed our ability to create better jobs and make things better for America. ALL you have are lies that have been told over and over until you begin to believe the socialist horse dung fed to you by the far left that employs what they call useful idiots that do their dirty work, completely clueless as to what is really happening.