Trump to Cut Food Stamps Budget by 25%

[JonKoch]

*Gross Income Limit If not Elderly or Disabled *Max F.S. Benefit for Everyone
1 person: $1,265 $194
2 people: $1,705 $357
3 people: $2,144 $511
4 people: $2,584 $649

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

"On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal"

Sure -- more mathematical ineptitude. Let's take a quick class here..

If you restricted SNAP to folks close to the Poverty level --- MOST of those folks would be getting the MAXIMUM benefit.... So the AVERAGE bennie would be high.

Now EXPAND the program to folks near 3 times the Poverty and feed a bigger pool of bennies to folks getting token $65/month SNAP payments. The AVERAGE payout is severely DILUTED because the pool got larger and the MAJORITY of folks are getting bennies reduced by their income. AND the program cost SKYROCKETS because of the GROWTH of the pool even with their reduced bennies..

You lefties need to more nimble with math concepts. So you don't wrap yourselves around the axle tossing numbers around that don't have a lot of meaning..

Show of hands class. Who still doesn't understand how raising the qualifying income LOWERS the "average SNAP benefit" ?? All the others may go to recess...

Wait a CONservative is trying to tell me about MATH??? LMAOROG

After Dubya/GOP GUTTED revenues to 14.6% of GDP from Clinton's 20% of GDP and Cheeto promises more of the same???

 

[JonKoch]

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

I do ALL the grocery shopping (and cooking). Also pay all the bills. So you're wrong. Also have a daughter in Grad School that does fine with her roommates on combined income of not much more $25,000 per year. I admit, they like to come for dinner here. But they are doing fine.

Point is -- the ELIGIBILITY has been expanded unreasonably. Which saps the ability to fund programs for the TRULY needy. It's a mathematical reality that raising the qualifying income even a TINY bit -- brings larger and larger POOLS of folks into the program. The "pool" at $23K to $25K/yr is probably 2 or 3 times the size of the pool at $18K to $21K/yr..

It's those mathematical/demographical equations that seem to stump folks that just want to pile on more money..

MORE opinion from CONservatives who are NEVER on the correct side of US history and fail math.

ONE time CONservatives were on the correct side of US history?

More ad hom.

Projection noted

 

[JonKoch]

*Gross Income Limit If not Elderly or Disabled *Max F.S. Benefit for Everyone
1 person: $1,265 $194
2 people: $1,705 $357
3 people: $2,144 $511
4 people: $2,584 $649

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

"On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal"

When was the last time you shopped "per meal"....And didn't have staples already at home in the pantry?

And anyway people are supposed to use Snap to supplement their grocery budget...not as their sole grocery income for the month.

So the staples at home are free?

 

[JonKoch]

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GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

"On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal"

When was the last time you shopped "per meal"....And didn't have staples already at home in the pantry?

And anyway people are supposed to use Snap to supplement their grocery budget...not as their sole grocery income for the month.

Tell you the truth being a single guy I always shop per meal , if I need something quick to eat after work..

$2.50 around here at Walmart, a salad some rolls ...like $3.50 for dinner


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I can make a stew that can feed me lunch and dinner for three/four days with about 3.50 (or less) for stew meat... .99 cents for a bag of potatoes and .99 cents for carrots. Spices I already have on hand...

.69 to. 92 per meal ...depending on how much I eat. It ain't that hard.

Add in a salad kit for 1.50.

Make that 1.01 to 1.20 per meal.

Good for you, now do that while working 60 hour weeks at 2 jobs with kids. You CONservatives ALWAYS have simple fixes for complex issues!


Same meal 3-4 in a row? Yes that's the best our poorest deserve *shaking head*

 

[JonKoch]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

Great job of telling HALF the story .....

Let's see if we can figure this out.

1) Trump proposes federal tax cuts.

2) Trump proposes cutting federal programs, shifting some to states. This is done 1) to help offset the decrease in tax revenue, and 2) to transfer administration of programs to a more local, and thus more responsive, state government.

3) People receive a federal tax break.

4) The state, given its new mandates, has to assume responsibility for those programs removed from the federal budget.

5) Some states - probably, most - will raise taxes to provide those services in a manner acceptable to, and appropriate for, the people of their particular state.

6) Delivery of the product - let say, food stamps - immediately becomes more efficient by the removal of the federal bureaucracy that administers "one size fits all" programs (Notice that we currently spend $4.9 billion administering the federal program)

7) States will tailor these program to fit their particular circumstance. For example, Alabama may choose to limit food stamps to those who make less than $20K, while New York, with its higher cost of living, may choose to provide food stamps to those making less than $50K, a decision that will be reviewed, and agreed upon, by those people responsible for funding the program in their particular state.

And, this is a problem how, again?

HISTORY, Bubs say you are full of SHIT


When it Comes to Helping the Poor, Block Grants Are an Epic Failure
When it comes to helping the poor, block grants are an epic failure



How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant
How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.
Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

Red States Spent $2 Billion in 2015 to Screw the Poor

....Here's what this means: the states that refuse to expand Medicaid are denying health care to the needy and paying about $2 billion for the privilege. Try to comprehend the kind of people who do this.
Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Zzzzzzzzzz yea we don't have any poor ass blacks in red States either.





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The red state welfare queens that suck off the teet of the blue states? I'm sure you have plenty Bubs, though states like Alaska, the biggest per capita has few


A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States



Most Federally Dependent States


Rank
(1 = Most Dependent)

State
Total Score
‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank
‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank

1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
7 Montana 65.91 14 4
8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
9 Maine 61.02 13 9
10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
20 Maryland 48.18 11 32
21 Oklahoma 47.78 21 18
22 Pennsylvania 46.15 17 30
23 Alaska 45.81 10 40
24 Rhode Island 45.05 36 16
25 Florida 43.84 27 22
26 Ohio 42.25 45 13
27 Arkansas 42.12 38 21
28 North Carolina 41.63 32 25
29 Hawaii 41.63 9 46
30 Iowa 41.38 33 26
31 Wisconsin 41.09 16 38
32 North Dakota 40.46 1 50
33 Michigan 40.43 35 27
34 New York 37.65 44 24
35 Texas 36.81 42 28
36 Washington 35.32 30 33
37 Colorado 35.20 29 34
38 Virginia 34.43 12 49
39 Nebraska 33.78 47 29
40 Utah 33.28 28 35
41 New Hampshire 31.11 37 36
42 Connecticut 27.80 22 48
43 Massachusetts 27.36 46 37
44 Nevada 26.94 25 47
45 Kansas 25.39 39 45
46 California 25.36 41 43
47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

Figures don't lie ---- but, obviously, liars figure.

So instead of ATTEMPTING to refute ANYTHING, you'll stick with the ankle biting? Got it

 

[JonKoch]

States will develop ways to combat the fraud when the amount of federal $ decreases. They'll also create ways to stop people from becoming dependent.

Welfare programs are there to help people through hard times. It was never meant to become a way of life.

Gawd you wingnutters

1996 WELFARE REFORM 5 YEAR LIFETIME LIMIT. MOST RED STATES ARE LESS THAN 3 YEARS LIFETIME LIMITS!

 

[DarkFury]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

Good! About time.

 

[BlueGin]

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

"On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal"

When was the last time you shopped "per meal"....And didn't have staples already at home in the pantry?

And anyway people are supposed to use Snap to supplement their grocery budget...not as their sole grocery income for the month.

So the staples at home are free?

What ....you think you buy flour,sugar,spices etc....for every meal you cook everyday?

Again...you obviously don't shop.

 

[JonKoch]

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

Apparently you dont shop for food....if you don't think people can feed themselves with $255.00 a month.

"On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal"

When was the last time you shopped "per meal"....And didn't have staples already at home in the pantry?

And anyway people are supposed to use Snap to supplement their grocery budget...not as their sole grocery income for the month.

So the staples at home are free?

What ....you think you buy flour,sugar,spices etc....for every meal you cook everyday?

Again...you obviously don't shop.

Your inability to use logic and reasoning noted Bubba

 

[blastoff]

Good. Now tighten the requirements as well.

why do you hate red states?

Why do you post like a retard?

Stupid is as stupid does?

 

[IResist]

My sympathies to these people whose benefits are getting cut.