Trump speaks to President of Taiwan -- liberal media shits a brick

[Correll]

You claim "every time" and support that with one example.

And you have the nerve to call other people stupid. lol!

Actually, I gave you three examples... but counting isn't something you dun-der learned in home school, is it, Cleetus?

The modern age was created by technological advances in the Christian world. Your complains make no sense.

 

[JoeB131]

The modern age was created by technological advances in the Christian world. Your complains make no sense.

No, it was done by people who didn't believe in Sky Fairies... dumbass...

 

[Correll]

The modern age was created by technological advances in the Christian world. Your complains make no sense.

No, it was done by people who didn't believe in Sky Fairies... dumbass...

You have historical data to support your claim that the vast majority of inventors and scientists that created the modern world, were not religious?

And don't cite modern data. To support your claim, you need to cover the time periods of the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution and the Scientific Revolution.

 

[JoeB131]

You have historical data to support your claim that the vast majority of inventors and scientists that created the modern world, were not religious?

And don't cite modern data. To support your claim, you need to cover the time periods of the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution and the Scientific Revolution.

Guy, it's kind of hard to prove that when back in the day, they'd fucking BURN YOU AT THE STAKE for saying there was no God.

Or as you Inbreds like to call them, "The Good Old Days".

 

[Correll]

You have historical data to support your claim that the vast majority of inventors and scientists that created the modern world, were not religious?

And don't cite modern data. To support your claim, you need to cover the time periods of the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution and the Scientific Revolution.

Guy, it's kind of hard to prove that when back in the day, they'd fucking BURN YOU AT THE STAKE for saying there was no God.

Or as you Inbreds like to call them, "The Good Old Days".

Got it. SO, you argue that Christianity is antithetical to science and reason, but you have no numbers or data to support your theory....

 

[JoeB131]

Got it. SO, you argue that Christianity is antithetical to science and reason, but you have no numbers or data to support your theory....

You mean other than Galileo... and opposing vaccination. And evolution. and pain-killers for childbirth.

The Myth of Christianity Founding Science and Medicine

From its very beginning, the Church has served as a stumbling block against scientific progress. By the time Theodosius proclaimed Nicene Christianity a state religion in 380 CE, progressive science had already stopped. Richard Carrier (through personal correspondence) puts it this way: "Even pagans, though cherishing their scientific heritage (unlike Christians who generally did not), and applying that heritage more avidly than their Christian peers, appear to have given up on advancing science. And then pagans slowly died out, leaving only Christians who were even less interested in such advancement or how to achieve it." Up until this time, Greek and Roman science and medicine stood at the pinnacle of reasoned thought. Although the Christians conserved their own biblical and religious exegesis, they did little to conserve pagan scientific writings to the same degree. The little that the Christians did save just barely survived. As Kenneth Clark wrote, "What with prejudice and destruction, it's surprising that the literature of pre-Christian antiquity was preserved at all. And in fact it only just squeaked through. In so far as we are the heirs of Greece and Rome, we got through by the skin of our teeth." We owe the real foundations of science to the ancient Greeks and Romans, not to the Christians.

A Christian mob murdered the mathematician and philosophy teacher, Hypatia, in 415 CE. I use this date to mark the beginning of the scientific Dark Ages, and its end at the beginning of the Renaissance in the 14th century because of the almost total lack of progressive science done during this period (most scholars today refer to the Dark Ages as the Early Middle Ages. See notes below). Hypatia's death serves as a convenient marking point, not because she died as the last pagan (pagan persecution lasted for centuries after) but because she lived as the last non-Christian of any merit that would teach science in the Western Christian world. Moreover, around this time, the Western Empire had begun to die. The Renaissance marks the approximate time when science began its catch-up with the ancient pagans.

 

[Correll]

Got it. SO, you argue that Christianity is antithetical to science and reason, but you have no numbers or data to support your theory....

You mean other than Galileo... and opposing vaccination. And evolution. and pain-killers for childbirth.

The Myth of Christianity Founding Science and Medicine

From its very beginning, the Church has served as a stumbling block against scientific progress. By the time Theodosius proclaimed Nicene Christianity a state religion in 380 CE, progressive science had already stopped. Richard Carrier (through personal correspondence) puts it this way: "Even pagans, though cherishing their scientific heritage (unlike Christians who generally did not), and applying that heritage more avidly than their Christian peers, appear to have given up on advancing science. And then pagans slowly died out, leaving only Christians who were even less interested in such advancement or how to achieve it." Up until this time, Greek and Roman science and medicine stood at the pinnacle of reasoned thought. Although the Christians conserved their own biblical and religious exegesis, they did little to conserve pagan scientific writings to the same degree. The little that the Christians did save just barely survived. As Kenneth Clark wrote, "What with prejudice and destruction, it's surprising that the literature of pre-Christian antiquity was preserved at all. And in fact it only just squeaked through. In so far as we are the heirs of Greece and Rome, we got through by the skin of our teeth." We owe the real foundations of science to the ancient Greeks and Romans, not to the Christians.

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I see a number of claims, with no supporting evidence, data or even reasoned opinions.

I note no mention of the context of a falling Roman Empire/ barbarians invasions at that time. A very interesting omission. Almost like they are TRYING to be misleading.

The unintended irony of you complaining of Christians' resistance to science and reason, while employing nothing but emotional and bigoted arguments to support your case, is hilarious.

 

[JoeB131]

I see a number of claims, with no supporting evidence, data or even reasoned opinions.

I note no mention of the context of a falling Roman Empire/ barbarians invasions at that time. A very interesting omission. Almost like they are TRYING to be misleading.

The unintended irony of you complaining of Christians' resistance to science and reason, while employing nothing but emotional and bigoted arguments to support your case, is hilarious.

Well, some problem with the whole 'Barbarians' By the time the Barbarians got to Rome, they were Christianized and spoke Latin. They just had no interest in maintaining the social and scientific progress the Romans had made.

The thing was, The Christians burned all of the old learning of the Empire...

 

[badger2]

#562: And the taoist adept in feathered cloak rose up to heaven in broad daylight, says China's only indigenous religion, though the xians are still in Fairytale Land when it comes to resurrections. China already did Jizu, it's very own invention, a B.C. avatar whose statues along the roads in Japan may still be occasionally seen.