Trump says he's going to sign a measure to keep migrant families together

[Meister]

Secure our Border, end Illegal Immigration once and for all. Problem solved.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work, what makes you think tRumps wall will?

Arrest, trial, jail, and fines for employers that knowingly hire illegals.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work,

How many people snuck into East Berlin after they built the Wall?

Not for nothing, but the Berlin wall wasn't built to keep people out, it was built to keep people IN.

Ever wonder how many people made it out? 30 million? 10 million? 1 million? 100 thousand?
That wall worked quite well, wouldn't you agree?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Secure our Border, end Illegal Immigration once and for all. Problem solved.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work, what makes you think tRumps wall will?

Arrest, trial, jail, and fines for employers that knowingly hire illegals.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work,

How many people snuck into East Berlin after they built the Wall?

Not for nothing, but the Berlin wall wasn't built to keep people out, it was built to keep people IN.

Ever wonder how many people made it out? 30 million? 10 million? 1 million? 100 thousand?
That wall worked quite well, wouldn't you agree?

Actually, it wasn't the wall that was the problem, it was the "death strip" that claimed the most lives. And, it wasn't really all that effective, because around 5,000 people managed to make it to the West.

10 Things You May Not Know About the Berlin Wall

3. The Berlin Wall was actually two walls.
The 27-mile portion of the barrier separating Berlin into east and west consisted of two concrete walls between which was a “death strip” up to 160 yards wide that contained hundreds of watchtowers, miles of anti-vehicle trenches, guard dog runs, floodlights and trip-wire machine guns.



4. More than 100 people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall.
The Centre for Research on Contemporary History Potsdam and the Berlin Wall Memorial Site and Documentation Center report that at least 138 people were shot dead, suffered fatal accidents or committed suicide after failed escape attempts across the Berlin Wall. Other researchers place the death toll even higher. The first victim was Ida Siekmann, who died on August 22, 1961, after attempting to leap to a West Berlin street below her fourth-floor East Berlin apartment window. The last fatality occurred in March 1989 when a young East German attempting to fly over the wall in a hot air balloon crashed into power lines.


5. More than 5,000 escaped by going over and under the Berlin Wall.
The first defector to escape across the Berlin Wall was 19-year-old East German border guard Corporal Conrad Schumann, who was immortalized on film as he leapt over a 3-foot-high roll of barbed wire just two days after East Germany sealed the border. As the Berlin Wall grew more elaborate, so did escape plans. Fugitives hid in secret compartments of cars driven by visiting West Berliners, dug secret tunnels and crawled through sewers. The three Bethke brothers pulled off the most spectacular escapes. Eldest brother Ingo escaped by floating on an inflatable mattress across the Elbe River in 1975, and eight years later brother Holger soared over the wall on a steel cable he fired with a bow and arrow to a rooftop in West Berlin. In 1989 the pair flew an ultra-light plane over the wall and back to pick up youngest brother Egbert.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Secure our Border, end Illegal Immigration once and for all. Problem solved.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work, what makes you think tRumps wall will?

Arrest, trial, jail, and fines for employers that knowingly hire illegals.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work,

How many people snuck into East Berlin after they built the Wall?

Not for nothing, but the Berlin wall wasn't built to keep people out, it was built to keep people IN.

I guess the moron who first mentioned the Berlin Wall must feel pretty stupid then.

Actually, it is you who should feel stupid. No, the Berlin wall didn't work, because now it has been torn down.

However, not knowing why it was built and then demonstrating that lack of knowledge? That is all you dude.

No, the Berlin wall didn't work

It didn't stop people from moving freely across a border? DERP!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Secure our Border, end Illegal Immigration once and for all. Problem solved.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work, what makes you think tRumps wall will?

Arrest, trial, jail, and fines for employers that knowingly hire illegals.

The Berlin wall and the great wall of China didn't work,

How many people snuck into East Berlin after they built the Wall?

Not for nothing, but the Berlin wall wasn't built to keep people out, it was built to keep people IN.

Ever wonder how many people made it out? 30 million? 10 million? 1 million? 100 thousand?
That wall worked quite well, wouldn't you agree?

Actually, it wasn't the wall that was the problem, it was the "death strip" that claimed the most lives. And, it wasn't really all that effective, because around 5,000 people managed to make it to the West.

10 Things You May Not Know About the Berlin Wall

3. The Berlin Wall was actually two walls.
The 27-mile portion of the barrier separating Berlin into east and west consisted of two concrete walls between which was a “death strip” up to 160 yards wide that contained hundreds of watchtowers, miles of anti-vehicle trenches, guard dog runs, floodlights and trip-wire machine guns.



4. More than 100 people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall.
The Centre for Research on Contemporary History Potsdam and the Berlin Wall Memorial Site and Documentation Center report that at least 138 people were shot dead, suffered fatal accidents or committed suicide after failed escape attempts across the Berlin Wall. Other researchers place the death toll even higher. The first victim was Ida Siekmann, who died on August 22, 1961, after attempting to leap to a West Berlin street below her fourth-floor East Berlin apartment window. The last fatality occurred in March 1989 when a young East German attempting to fly over the wall in a hot air balloon crashed into power lines.


5. More than 5,000 escaped by going over and under the Berlin Wall.
The first defector to escape across the Berlin Wall was 19-year-old East German border guard Corporal Conrad Schumann, who was immortalized on film as he leapt over a 3-foot-high roll of barbed wire just two days after East Germany sealed the border. As the Berlin Wall grew more elaborate, so did escape plans. Fugitives hid in secret compartments of cars driven by visiting West Berliners, dug secret tunnels and crawled through sewers. The three Bethke brothers pulled off the most spectacular escapes. Eldest brother Ingo escaped by floating on an inflatable mattress across the Elbe River in 1975, and eight years later brother Holger soared over the wall on a steel cable he fired with a bow and arrow to a rooftop in West Berlin. In 1989 the pair flew an ultra-light plane over the wall and back to pick up youngest brother Egbert.

And, it wasn't really all that effective, because around 5,000 people managed to make it to the West.


After a decade of relative calm, tensions flared again in 1958. For the next three years, the Soviets–emboldened by the successful launch of the Sputnik satellite the year before and embarrassed by the seemingly endless flow of refugees from east to west (nearly 3 million since the end of the blockade, many of them young skilled workers such as doctors, teachers and engineers)–blustered and made threats, while the Allies resisted. Summits, conferences and other negotiations came and went without resolution. Meanwhile, the flood of refugees continued. In June 1961, some 19,000 people left the GDR through Berlin. The following month, 30,000 fled. In the first 11 days of August, 16,000 East Germans crossed the border into West Berlin, and on August 12 some 2,400 followed—the largest number of defectors ever to leave East Germany in a single day.

Berlin Wall - Cold War - HISTORY.com

From 1949-1961, almost 3 million fled East Germany's workers paradise.
About 250,000 a year. In June 1961, 19,000 or 630 a day. In July, about 1000 a day.
In August 1961, about 1500 per day. The day before it was built, 2400 people fled.

Over the next 28 years, an average of fewer than 200 a year made it over, under or through the wall.

200 versus 250,000 a year is what you call "not really all that effective"?

Seriously?

 

[Slyhunter]

Nothing is 100%. Those refusing to act until they get 100% are morons.

 

[JakeStarkey]

ABikeSailor owns this thread hands down.

 

[McRocket]

And Stephen Colbert's take on it (from 1:32):



Trump is pure scum...get this cockroach out of the White House.

In hand cuffs or flat on his back - I don't care anymore.

 

[Darkwind]

I thought there was some law forcing the government to do this?

There is, it is called the US Constitution. It details the responsibility of each branch of government.

The Executive is responsible for enforcing the laws passed by the Legislative.

 

[Darkwind]

And Stephen Colbert's take on it (from 1:32):



Trump is pure scum...get this cockroach out of the White House.

In hand cuffs or flat on his back - I don't care anymore.

So, Time magazine gets it wrong again?

This just in. No one was surprised by that.

 

[Montrovant]

I thought there was some law forcing the government to do this?

There is, it is called the US Constitution. It details the responsibility of each branch of government.

The Executive is responsible for enforcing the laws passed by the Legislative.

So is the executive order that was signed unconstitutional?

 

[McRocket]

Trump says he's going to sign a measure to keep migrant families together

Yeah...I know how Trump would probably like to keep them together.

Execute them and throw them together in a mass grave.

And I guarantee you a horrifying number of Trumpbots would welcome such a move.

 

[Anathema]

Trump says he's going to sign a measure to keep migrant families together

Yeah...I know how Trump would probably like to keep them together.

Execute them and throw them together in a mass grave.

And I guarantee you a horrifying number of Trumpbots would welcome such a move.

That works for me; though I’d be almost as happy just seeing them deported as a family without any hearing or other bureaucratic nonsense.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump says he's going to sign a measure to keep migrant families together

Yeah...I know how Trump would probably like to keep them together.

Execute them and throw them together in a mass grave.

And I guarantee you a horrifying number of Trumpbots would welcome such a move.

Nah, just send them home and build a wall.