Trump can't lose if he keeps manufacturing jobs coming back to the U.S.

Why don’t we try improving our education system so that we don’t have to rely on these jobs coming back?
Construction Trades and Blue Collar Workers have taken in on the chin for these policies..........everyone can't be a lawyer .......doctor..........or other high education degree................Not enough jobs in that............why people with college degrees end up working at McDonalds.........

FWIW:

Mike Rowe
 
She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org
So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......
That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.


Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.
She just admitted why they lost key blue states.............slipped up didn't she.:abgg2q.jpg:

Wow Colombo, I “admitted” it months ago.

Actually it was years ago:

She lost because Trump ran the better campaign in 2016 and she lost in 2008 because Obama ran a better campaign then too as well. SHE IS A DISAPPOINTING CAMPAIGNER!!!! Some people got it and some people don’t. Whatever the secret sauce is that makes one pull a lever next to her name…she ain’t got it. Further evidence of this all-too-clear-fact are the states that Trump won. He won Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Now, if he had won one of these states and lost the EV…someone like me would have said, “Hmm…that’s interesting.” Only because he won all 3 and won the EV do some folks like me (liberals) want to raise questions. To take this stance wounds your credibility. In the first place…One would have to wonder why the hackers spared Virginia—a very contentious state to be sure. Were they feeling generous?

And, just looking forward, if you think she is a disappointing campaigner, wait until you see Liz Warren run for office. Yeech!
Months ago..........LOL............Been a year and a half........

Why does Dem mental midgets still push she lost because of Russia Routine then..............Do you challenge your own Dems on that.......I haven't seen that.
 
That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.
That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov
And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.
The WTO is a joke.............takes time and they haven't forced China to stop their abuses........we are not the only ones saying that..........and we are not the only ones pushing tariffs against them.................

We have no need of a foreign court telling us how to conduct our business and laws here..............We are a Sovereign Nation,...........and can go outside the bounds of a foreign Mickey Mouse Court to ensure FAIR TRADE...........If they go to the WTO and whine.......and get judgements against us.........we can simply create new tariffs and quotas in response..............and there really isn't a dang thing the WTO can do about it.

WTO and TPP are GLOBALIST wet dream for the world..........Under the TPP companies can sue nations for their very laws...........Let that sink in a moment.

Ok…. The laws of economics still apply. Folding your arms and pouting is not going to change it.
We’ll see where the CPI goes.
 
Obama spoke for the globalist dems when he said many times that manufacturing jobs are gone:


Obama Responds To Questions About Carrier: Some Jobs "Are Just Not Coming Back"
But Obama said manufacturing jobs wouldn't come back...

Trump is at least trying to bring jobs back to the U.S., including protecting workers from unfair tariffs
10 Companies That Are Bringing Jobs Back to America
American companies bring jobs back to the U.S., and Democrats smirk
Apple Is Paying $38 Billion to Bring Cash Back to the U.S.

The MSM, the Left, and the globalists, keep hammering Trump on peripheral issues. In 2018 and 2020 they will be as surprised as in 2016 when the populists win again. The reason will be that the economy requires that Trump stay the course on bringing jobs back. It took time to move 12,000 factories overseas, it will take time to bring some of them back. People vote their pocketbooks, period, it really is the economy....stupid.

Dude, in a few more years, you dumb stupid white fuck, just about every manufactoring job in this country will be robotic and with the permanent tax cuts Trump gave, it may be sooner than we all think. The dollar a day crap they're paying offshore, will soon profit into robotic cash flow...so zip your pants and take a cold shower, dumb ass.
 
Obama spoke for the globalist dems when he said many times that manufacturing jobs are gone:


Obama Responds To Questions About Carrier: Some Jobs "Are Just Not Coming Back"
But Obama said manufacturing jobs wouldn't come back...

Trump is at least trying to bring jobs back to the U.S., including protecting workers from unfair tariffs
10 Companies That Are Bringing Jobs Back to America
American companies bring jobs back to the U.S., and Democrats smirk
Apple Is Paying $38 Billion to Bring Cash Back to the U.S.

The MSM, the Left, and the globalists, keep hammering Trump on peripheral issues. In 2018 and 2020 they will be as surprised as in 2016 when the populists win again. The reason will be that the economy requires that Trump stay the course on bringing jobs back. It took time to move 12,000 factories overseas, it will take time to bring some of them back. People vote their pocketbooks, period, it really is the economy....stupid.


So your first article from Jan 17, 2017, what's the progress?


The entire point of the thread is that the dem/globalists (and establishment GOP) are very happy supporting moving jobs overseas and pocketing K-Street cash. Saying that the US economy is a "service economy". Like they get paid for fellatio. Trump OTOH is at least trying to bring good paying jobs back to the US, including making sure that tariffs are fair. Trump deserves credit and support for opposing the globalists.


Trump IS a globalist. His clothing line is all manufactured offshore. He imports workers from Mexico for his resort properties, claiming he can’t find hotel maids or cooks in the US. He has properties all around the world.

He’s also on record as wanting to do away with minimum wages and other employee protections.

His steel and aluminum tariffs could cost the US 150,000 manufacturing jobs. Farmers in the Midwest are panicking as China has cancelled soy bean orders and instructed their farmers to increase production.

The trade war will cost Americans billions in higher prices on imported goods and lost jobs.


The steel and aluminum tariffs only mean that more US steel and aluminum will be used. Many construction jobs require that US steel be used, so its not overly expensive using US steel instead of cheap subsidized imported steel. As Secretary Ross stated, the finished product cost will only increase a fraction of a percent in most cases. The tariffs will be a good test of policies. If you are right Trump will lose in 2018 and 2020, if he is right, he will win....stay tuned....
 
Another educated American who impulsively ignored all conclusions since 2 years ago that obama fixed the unemploment and trump so far at best has had no effect to it whatsoever.
 
That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov
And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.
The WTO is a joke.............takes time and they haven't forced China to stop their abuses........we are not the only ones saying that..........and we are not the only ones pushing tariffs against them.................

We have no need of a foreign court telling us how to conduct our business and laws here..............We are a Sovereign Nation,...........and can go outside the bounds of a foreign Mickey Mouse Court to ensure FAIR TRADE...........If they go to the WTO and whine.......and get judgements against us.........we can simply create new tariffs and quotas in response..............and there really isn't a dang thing the WTO can do about it.

WTO and TPP are GLOBALIST wet dream for the world..........Under the TPP companies can sue nations for their very laws...........Let that sink in a moment.

Ok…. The laws of economics still apply. Folding your arms and pouting is not going to change it.
We’ll see where the CPI goes.
So that's how you see the disagreement we are having............pouting..........is that a term used for anyone who disagrees with you.............hmmm.

The data of Unfair Trade Practices has been put out there and confirmed...........the abuses are real............perhaps I should say the same to you.......pouting and folding your arms hoping the trade abuses will end.............

We are in disagreement..........I believe in standing for America when other countries use unfair trade practices.......You can spin that all you want.
 
That four year old article has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked.

then try using google yourself...its fairly simple...
I did and found nothing but the kind of crap you are peddling. Your lame excuse seems to indicate you have no evidence to support this bull crap thread. But please, feel free to try and change my mind.
 
Obama spoke for the globalist dems when he said many times that manufacturing jobs are gone:


Obama Responds To Questions About Carrier: Some Jobs "Are Just Not Coming Back"
But Obama said manufacturing jobs wouldn't come back...

Trump is at least trying to bring jobs back to the U.S., including protecting workers from unfair tariffs
10 Companies That Are Bringing Jobs Back to America
American companies bring jobs back to the U.S., and Democrats smirk
Apple Is Paying $38 Billion to Bring Cash Back to the U.S.

The MSM, the Left, and the globalists, keep hammering Trump on peripheral issues. In 2018 and 2020 they will be as surprised as in 2016 when the populists win again. The reason will be that the economy requires that Trump stay the course on bringing jobs back. It took time to move 12,000 factories overseas, it will take time to bring some of them back. People vote their pocketbooks, period, it really is the economy....stupid.

Dude, in a few more years, you dumb stupid white fuck, just about every manufactoring job in this country will be robotic and with the permanent tax cuts Trump gave, it may be sooner than we all think. The dollar a day crap they're paying offshore, will soon profit into robotic cash flow...so zip your pants and take a cold shower, dumb ass.


Robotics is not the end manufacturing labor, robots need repairs and programmers and developers. Plus many jobs require skills and flexibility that robots simply can't do at present. Not sure what your low IQ post <g> is whining about? Also, try using spell check, its fairly simple.
 
That four year old article has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked.

then try using google yourself...its fairly simple...
I did and found nothing but the kind of crap you are peddling. Your lame excuse seems to indicate you have no evidence to support this bull crap thread. But please, feel free to try and change my mind.

Dude, my thread is a prediction that voters will support Trump's economic agenda of more manufacturing jobs as compared to the dems' service economy jobs. I'm not presenting any evidence except Bubba's maxim "its the economy stupid". Can the MSM and globalists convince voters otherwise? We'll see...
 
Why don’t we try improving our education system so that we don’t have to rely on these jobs coming back?

Might agree with you if by "improving the education system" you mean actual "job training" instead of useless college degrees? Merge the Departments of Education & Labor??
 
Yet US continues to lose many more manufacturing jobs than are returning.

That is a no win game for Trump and his human robots.
 
So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......
That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.


Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.
She just admitted why they lost key blue states.............slipped up didn't she.:abgg2q.jpg:

Wow Colombo, I “admitted” it months ago.

Actually it was years ago:

She lost because Trump ran the better campaign in 2016 and she lost in 2008 because Obama ran a better campaign then too as well. SHE IS A DISAPPOINTING CAMPAIGNER!!!! Some people got it and some people don’t. Whatever the secret sauce is that makes one pull a lever next to her name…she ain’t got it. Further evidence of this all-too-clear-fact are the states that Trump won. He won Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Now, if he had won one of these states and lost the EV…someone like me would have said, “Hmm…that’s interesting.” Only because he won all 3 and won the EV do some folks like me (liberals) want to raise questions. To take this stance wounds your credibility. In the first place…One would have to wonder why the hackers spared Virginia—a very contentious state to be sure. Were they feeling generous?

And, just looking forward, if you think she is a disappointing campaigner, wait until you see Liz Warren run for office. Yeech!
Months ago..........LOL............Been a year and a half........

Why does Dem mental midgets still push she lost because of Russia Routine then..............Do you challenge your own Dems on that.......I haven't seen that.

You’d have to ask them. I imagine because the 17 intel agencies said they did, Trump’s advisor Stone said he knew Podesta was being hacked, and as it has come out, numerous campaign officials had meetings with Russia that they lied about.

Trump mouthpiece Hope Hicks from November 2016:

USA Today:

Hicks, responding to public statements by multiple Russian government officials that they had indeed had regular contact with the Trump campaign throughout the election, gave the Associated Press a blanket denial. “It never happened. There was no communication between the campaign and any foreign entity during the campaign."




Where are you when the obvious trump supporting racists are flinging their shit up against the wall. Do you challenge them? I haven’t seen that.
 
That four year old article has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked.

then try using google yourself...its fairly simple...
I did and found nothing but the kind of crap you are peddling. Your lame excuse seems to indicate you have no evidence to support this bull crap thread. But please, feel free to try and change my mind.

Dude, my thread is a prediction that voters will support Trump's economic agenda of more manufacturing jobs as compared to the dems' service economy jobs. I'm not presenting any evidence except Bubba's maxim "its the economy stupid". Can the MSM and globalists convince voters otherwise? We'll see...
Your thread title is written to indicate manufacturing will "keep" coming back. You can not keep something if you do not have it to start with. You title misleads in promoting the concept that trump has already increased manufacturing and that is a falsehood or outright lie. It is a lie that his supporters have been duped into believing. Part of the con job. A scam.
 
Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov
And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.
The WTO is a joke.............takes time and they haven't forced China to stop their abuses........we are not the only ones saying that..........and we are not the only ones pushing tariffs against them.................

We have no need of a foreign court telling us how to conduct our business and laws here..............We are a Sovereign Nation,...........and can go outside the bounds of a foreign Mickey Mouse Court to ensure FAIR TRADE...........If they go to the WTO and whine.......and get judgements against us.........we can simply create new tariffs and quotas in response..............and there really isn't a dang thing the WTO can do about it.

WTO and TPP are GLOBALIST wet dream for the world..........Under the TPP companies can sue nations for their very laws...........Let that sink in a moment.

Ok…. The laws of economics still apply. Folding your arms and pouting is not going to change it.
We’ll see where the CPI goes.
So that's how you see the disagreement we are having............pouting..........is that a term used for anyone who disagrees with you.............hmmm.

The data of Unfair Trade Practices has been put out there and confirmed...........the abuses are real............perhaps I should say the same to you.......pouting and folding your arms hoping the trade abuses will end.............

We are in disagreement..........I believe in standing for America when other countries use unfair trade practices.......You can spin that all you want.

No…that is what the US is doing…pouting, withdrawing, becoming belligerent. Diplomacy is about engagement. The more you withdraw, the less other countries care about what your particular issue are.
 
Yet US continues to lose many more manufacturing jobs than are returning.

That is a no win game for Trump and his human robots.

Especially since the trade war with Europe, Mexico, Canada and China is heating up. It's been lost in the news cycle with the immigrant children story, but it's happening and it's going to put a fork in Donald's back.

South China Morning Post: In Trump’s trade war, US companies will be the first casualty
CNBC: Chinese media says US has 'delusions' as impact of trade war spreads
Canada National Observer: Trade war jabs between Canada and the U.S. escalate after Trump blows up G7 summit
 
Your welcome.........it's a slight trend up.........

but pardon me when I don't believe in INSTANT GRATIFICATION............

long term effects will decide who is correct.

What is it that you are expecting in the long term?

What level do we need to hit for you to be correct?

Here is the graph for all of its recorded history...what year do we need to match for this to be a win?

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Your welcome.........it's a slight trend up.........

but pardon me when I don't believe in INSTANT GRATIFICATION............

long term effects will decide who is correct.

What is it that you are expecting in the long term?

What level do we need to hit for you to be correct?

Here is the graph for all of its recorded history...what year do we need to match for this to be a win?

View attachment 200516
Before NAFTA............the graph goes down down down in the late 90's during the time of the beginning of NAFTA..........

Yoda predicted a giant sucking sound from NAFTA............The Graph shows he's right............

So..........the graph goes toward pre NAFTA...........would be a goal indeed..............
 
And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.
The WTO is a joke.............takes time and they haven't forced China to stop their abuses........we are not the only ones saying that..........and we are not the only ones pushing tariffs against them.................

We have no need of a foreign court telling us how to conduct our business and laws here..............We are a Sovereign Nation,...........and can go outside the bounds of a foreign Mickey Mouse Court to ensure FAIR TRADE...........If they go to the WTO and whine.......and get judgements against us.........we can simply create new tariffs and quotas in response..............and there really isn't a dang thing the WTO can do about it.

WTO and TPP are GLOBALIST wet dream for the world..........Under the TPP companies can sue nations for their very laws...........Let that sink in a moment.

Ok…. The laws of economics still apply. Folding your arms and pouting is not going to change it.
We’ll see where the CPI goes.
So that's how you see the disagreement we are having............pouting..........is that a term used for anyone who disagrees with you.............hmmm.

The data of Unfair Trade Practices has been put out there and confirmed...........the abuses are real............perhaps I should say the same to you.......pouting and folding your arms hoping the trade abuses will end.............

We are in disagreement..........I believe in standing for America when other countries use unfair trade practices.......You can spin that all you want.

No…that is what the US is doing…pouting, withdrawing, becoming belligerent. Diplomacy is about engagement. The more you withdraw, the less other countries care about what your particular issue are.
A matter of opinion yet again............

To call them on unfair trade is POUTING...........LOL.........

To push back is POUTING.............FUNNY........

Where in the hell did you dig up POUTING for demanding unfair trade practices end..............unbelievable.
 

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