Trump can't lose if he keeps manufacturing jobs coming back to the U.S.

[kyzr]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

So I keep hearing all these arguments, "oh all those people are being replaced by robots" as the company moves its manufacturing to Mexico. What? No robots in Mexico?

They can build the cars anywhere, so, if other countries make it difficult for the source being from America, to in effect, destroy your economy and jobs, America will return the favor of cars made in Canada or Europe. This whole global argument is bunk, because it's not as if there is some special skillset available in Canada or Mexico that isn't available in America.

Competition=lower prices.
No competition=higher prices.

Erecting barriers to keep competition out means higher prices. Oldest law in economics.

Globalization has little to do with it in the micro. In the macro where you not only have to worry about economics but politics, national influence, etc…. allowing your international competitions to supplant your influence in one arena gives them a foothold in the others.

Subsidized competition = fewer jobs in the U.S.
Fair competition and tariffs = more jobs in the U.S.

Erecting fair barriers means no trade deficit. Trade deficits matter, funding government matters, jobs and tax revenue matter.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov

And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

 

[shockedcanadian]

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov

And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

It's called inflation during a booming market and an employees market.

Stop turning your back on U.S success. Accept the situation. You can vote any way you want, but help America win. You're the last station on the tracks, you CANNOT become like Canada, I beg you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Thanks for the graph showing nothing changed after the election!

 

[Camp]

Which industry is bringing back all the manufacturing jobs? Does anybody know?

 

[eagle1462010]

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

So I keep hearing all these arguments, "oh all those people are being replaced by robots" as the company moves its manufacturing to Mexico. What? No robots in Mexico?

They can build the cars anywhere, so, if other countries make it difficult for the source being from America, to in effect, destroy your economy and jobs, America will return the favor of cars made in Canada or Europe. This whole global argument is bunk, because it's not as if there is some special skillset available in Canada or Mexico that isn't available in America.

Competition=lower prices.
No competition=higher prices.

Erecting barriers to keep completion out means higher prices. Oldest law in economics.

Globalization has little to do with it in the micro. In the macro where you not only have to worry about economics but politics, national influence, etc…. allowing your international competitions to supplant your influence in one arena gives them a foothold in the others.

ignores subsidies used in lumber in Canada.........to PROTECT JOBS............

Ignores ...........how they imposed high tariffs on our chicken products to ensure they are not sold there.............Same as Germany imposes 25% against American auto makers...........or outright bans on beef sales to China and Japan...........

Trade is a 2 way street.........If it is FREE trade between 2 countries who are similar in regulations and standards then competition is the key to lower prices..........

But the deck has been rigged in favor of them over us.......and that needs to be challenged........

ok.

Don’t blame me…the laws of economics do not change despite what Trump tells you.

Insulting your allies does nothing to make them more malleable in a negotiation. In fact, it makes them less agreeable. Why you guys cheer whenever the pervert does it is a mystery.

Hang on..........calling Trump to get my response to you..............Hello Trump.............yeah please tell me how to respond to a policy that I have opposed since the 90's..........remember when I called you to ask what to say about NAFTA...........yeah....yeah.......noting..............7 days.......ok writing it down......ok.......

Makes about as much sense as your statement that we can't think for ourselves..............as some have been opposed since the 90's...........

As some said it would damage our manufacturing back then..........Remember Yoda..........the one that got Bill elected.........I agreed with him back then.

 

[eagle1462010]

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Thanks for the graph showing nothing changed after the election!

View attachment 200511

Your welcome.........it's a slight trend up.........

but pardon me when I don't believe in INSTANT GRATIFICATION............

long term effects will decide who is correct.

 

[kyzr]

Which industry is bringing back all the manufacturing jobs? Does anybody know?

Got skills? Think manufacturing : Career Outlook: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[Dragonlady]

Obama spoke for the globalist dems when he said many times that manufacturing jobs are gone:


Obama Responds To Questions About Carrier: Some Jobs "Are Just Not Coming Back"
But Obama said manufacturing jobs wouldn't come back...

Trump is at least trying to bring jobs back to the U.S., including protecting workers from unfair tariffs
10 Companies That Are Bringing Jobs Back to America
American companies bring jobs back to the U.S., and Democrats smirk
Apple Is Paying $38 Billion to Bring Cash Back to the U.S.

The MSM, the Left, and the globalists, keep hammering Trump on peripheral issues. In 2018 and 2020 they will be as surprised as in 2016 when the populists win again. The reason will be that the economy requires that Trump stay the course on bringing jobs back. It took time to move 12,000 factories overseas, it will take time to bring some of them back. People vote their pocketbooks, period, it really is the economy....stupid.

So your first article from Jan 17, 2017, what's the progress?

The entire point of the thread is that the dem/globalists (and establishment GOP) are very happy supporting moving jobs overseas and pocketing K-Street cash. Saying that the US economy is a "service economy". Like they get paid for fellatio. Trump OTOH is at least trying to bring good paying jobs back to the US, including making sure that tariffs are fair. Trump deserves credit and support for opposing the globalists.

Trump IS a globalist. His clothing line is all manufactured offshore. He imports workers from Mexico for his resort properties, claiming he can’t find hotel maids or cooks in the US. He has properties all around the world.

He’s also on record as wanting to do away with minimum wages and other employee protections.

His steel and aluminum tariffs could cost the US 150,000 manufacturing jobs. Farmers in the Midwest are panicking as China has cancelled soy bean orders and instructed their farmers to increase production.

The trade war will cost Americans billions in higher prices on imported goods and lost jobs.

 

[Camp]

Which industry is bringing back all the manufacturing jobs? Does anybody know?

Got skills? Think manufacturing : Career Outlook: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

That four year old article has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked.

 

[eagle1462010]

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov

And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

It's called inflation during a booming market and an employees market.

Stop turning your back on U.S success. Accept the situation. You can vote any way you want, but help America win. You're the last station on the tracks, you CANNOT become like Canada, I beg you.

Addressing that to me.............for agreeing with the end of subsidizing lumber industry in Canada..........In the 90's our paper mills and lumber yards were BOOMING.............After NAFTA they were hammered................because of NAFTA...........and because of cheap imports........It created good paying jobs..............jobs that are needed..................and need to come back.

In regards to chicken sales..........why should Canada be allowed to get away with Protectionism............and cry fowl when we fight back.

Why should Germany complain when they impose 25% on auto's......while we only have a 2% on ours.............

Got news for you..........if we impose the same tariff on Germany as they do us..........THEY LOSE..........Because people will stop buying their cars.....and will buy American auto's for a cheaper price...............America wins hands down on that one...........Germany losses.........

This happened before NAFTA...........we imposed tariffs...........which is why there are foreign auto makers here in this country now. NISSAN........TOYOTA.......and etc...........built plants here to bypass the Trade tariffs.........

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.

 

[candycorn]

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov

And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.

She just admitted why they lost key blue states.............slipped up didn't she.

 

[eagle1462010]

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

That is a matter of opinion..............and the abuses of Trade have been documented repeatedly.............

The selling of the MAGICAL FREE TRADE is a LIE.........it's never been free and other countries have abused the system and rigged it against us.........

The opinion to do nothing in response to require FAIR TRADE is dumb..........The Chamber of Commerce sold them BS, they bought it. As did you.

Tit for tat...........your dumb argument is totally useless.......doing nothing is useless........doing too much can damage......The way it's always been.

Well, we will see where the CPI is down the road. The trend is not promising.

It’s up 0.4% over the last 2 months.

bls.gov

And you of course will blame all of that on the trade issue....ignore the other factors............Fed has been raising interest rates.......gas prices have been going up.............but you will sweep sweep those factors under the rug later.........you wouldn't do that for political reasons now would you...........LOL

You staying away from the unfair trade practices..........for what reason..........lol.........perhaps we should just bend over and let them screw us like always...........

You actually make my point for me….

Tearing up the Iran deal makes the oil markets nervous because, quite clearly, either they will have a nuke or we will have to put boots on the ground to stop it. That is how this ends. It may not be this week, this month, or this year…but at some point, there will be either an acceptance of it or a prevention of it. So the price of oil rises. As for the politics of it, we had an agreement that had several signatories. We decided that we alone would leave it.

As for the unfair trade practices, we have avenues to pursue them. The WTO is one. What has Trump said about it: I’ll give you one guess:

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

The US. The richest nation the planet has ever seen….has a problem with the WTO which has helped make us the richest nation on the planet. Amazing, the other 160+ nations that are part of the WTO who have fared far worse than the US are not so upset with the body.

The UN is another. Oh wait, we’re withdrawing from that as well.

Its hilarious to think that we are so victimized. Today, I will be driving up through the coastal area of California on the way to the central valley. I’ll pass countless orchards, capitalization on the scale of trillions of dollars, on the way to visit a pretty humble area near Tahoe. We are so victimized by the world….I demand thoughts and prayers.

The WTO is a joke.............takes time and they haven't forced China to stop their abuses........we are not the only ones saying that..........and we are not the only ones pushing tariffs against them.................

We have no need of a foreign court telling us how to conduct our business and laws here..............We are a Sovereign Nation,...........and can go outside the bounds of a foreign Mickey Mouse Court to ensure FAIR TRADE...........If they go to the WTO and whine.......and get judgements against us.........we can simply create new tariffs and quotas in response..............and there really isn't a dang thing the WTO can do about it.

WTO and TPP are GLOBALIST wet dream for the world..........Under the TPP companies can sue nations for their very laws...........Let that sink in a moment.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.

She just admitted why they lost key blue states.............slipped up didn't she.

Yeah, she always does. Arrogant also when she kept electoral score through the obama years.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Why don’t we try improving our education system so that we don’t have to rely on these jobs coming back?

 

[candycorn]

Hillary would have signed TPP which would have cost us more...........

And she wouldn't have went toe to toe with trade abuses against our country as Trump has done.

Which is exactly why they lost traditional states in the election.............The Trade Unions turned Red for Trump...........and the rest is history.......

She lost there because she didn’t campaign there.

The largest trade union, NAM; has this on their website:

View attachment 200506

While they do recognize some disparities in NAFTA, they support the multi-national agreement. As we will see in the not-too-distant future, needlessly picking fights with our allies is stupid.

nam.org

So she lost the states because she thought they were in the bag…………political blunder and not Russia Russia Russia......

That’s true. The confirmed Russian interference did not prevent her from campaigning in those states.

Russia’s interference in the election, criminal hacking that Trump’s team was well aware of, is well documented.

I remember the Unions jumping ship and arguing over the TPP..........some ready to endorse Trump over it.........

In this interconnected age, voluntarily leaving the markets of your trading partners is dumb. Trump sold them BS; they bought it. As did you.

Lol, blaming the loss on the russians. You guys are a real hoot.

She just admitted why they lost key blue states.............slipped up didn't she.

Wow Colombo, I “admitted” it months ago.

Actually it was years ago:

She lost because Trump ran the better campaign in 2016 and she lost in 2008 because Obama ran a better campaign then too as well. SHE IS A DISAPPOINTING CAMPAIGNER!!!! Some people got it and some people don’t. Whatever the secret sauce is that makes one pull a lever next to her name…she ain’t got it. Further evidence of this all-too-clear-fact are the states that Trump won. He won Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Now, if he had won one of these states and lost the EV…someone like me would have said, “Hmm…that’s interesting.” Only because he won all 3 and won the EV do some folks like me (liberals) want to raise questions. To take this stance wounds your credibility. In the first place…One would have to wonder why the hackers spared Virginia—a very contentious state to be sure. Were they feeling generous?

And, just looking forward, if you think she is a disappointing campaigner, wait until you see Liz Warren run for office. Yeech!

 

[eagle1462010]

Why don’t we try improving our education system so that we don’t have to rely on these jobs coming back?

Construction Trades and Blue Collar Workers have taken in on the chin for these policies..........everyone can't be a lawyer .......doctor..........or other high education degree................Not enough jobs in that............why people with college degrees end up working at McDonalds.........

 

[candycorn]

Why don’t we try improving our education system so that we don’t have to rely on these jobs coming back?

C’mon…you don’t want to work in a coal mine? LOL