trump Backs Down. Again.

[bullwinkle]

They’ll all be deported by Nov 2020

Trump will focus ICE raids in swing districts

That could work against him.

 

[B. Kidd]

Trump won today...he dropped the mic and walked off the stage leaving the municipalities that are suing the administration in turmoil....they must go forward with the legal action they started costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars....for nothing...Trump went around them making their legal actions mute.....brilliant move by Trump and Barr.....this will make the hate Trump crowd think twice before they drag the white house into court.....

They do not need to go forward, they can stop tonight.

Trump got his ass handed to him and then made up some bullshit about data and you sheep took that bullshit and made a sandwich out of it and asked for another.

Deportations start Sunday. That'll work for now.

How smart is it to announce that the deportations will start on Sunday and where they will happen?

Do you really think that anyone who is undocumented in those cities is going to be at home or available for the government to pick them up?

trump gave them warning so anyone who is undocumented now knows where and when it's going to happen.

Not very smart of trump. Or is he giving them warning just so they can avoid being picked up?

They may initially hide, but won't run.

 

[Rustic]

Lol
Trump has your number, Never heard so many people whining so much about nothing. A bunch of pussies. You should be ashamed of yourself… Marine

Poor little statist, I still refuse to worship your god.

Trump talks a lot, something you and him share. But 90% of his talk is just that, but 99% of yours is just that so I you have him beat.

Lol
You’re the one complaining about nothing, you need to un-FUBAR yourself...

Yep, I am complaining about Trump doing nothing, you are licking his ass for doing nothing. thus the difference between us.

Lol
Why do progressives like yourself want to control everybody that disagrees with you? Other than your... Shortcomings?

you are far to the left of me my little statist buddy..and you know it

Lol
Says someone that votes for career politicians… Now run along.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They’ll all be deported by Nov 2020

Trump will focus ICE raids in swing districts

That could work against him.

Trump will lose the Antifa fascist votes.

 

[Darkwind]

Cheat? Why is knowing who has citizenship cheating? I would say keeping that info from Americans is cheating.

You're asking a question you know the answer to.

However to be polite, here's the answer to your question:

Dead man's hard drives the 'smoking gun' in census debate?

Now, however, a new wrinkle has emerged on the whole issue in an unusual way—via the hard drives of a deceased Republican strategist. Critics say the hard drives provide evidence for what they've been saying all along, that the citizenship question is a thinly disguised attempt to suppress minority voters and help white Republicans. The Justice Department says that's ridiculous. The Supreme Court has been informed of the new development, but whether it will play a role in justices' deliberations remains unclear. The details:

• The strategist: The GOP's Thomas Hofeller is described by the New York Times as the "Michelangelo of gerrymandering, the architect of partisan political maps that cemented the party's dominance across the country." He died last August, and his estranged daughter, Stephanie Hofeller Lizon, recovered his hard drives.
• His work: The hard drives, which his daughter gave to the advocacy group Common Cause, detail Hofeller's research in Texas. He concluded that if new voting maps were based not on population but more specifically on the number of American citizens of voting age, they "would be advantageous to Republicans and non-Hispanic whites." And they "would clearly be a disadvantage to the Democrats," he wrote, per the Washington Post.

In other words, like I said in my OP, cheat.

So illegals vote?

I'll play your game one more time. If you reply the same ridiculous way, I won't reply.

The citizenship question was put there to get an undercount of the population. Specifically in democratic held areas.

If there's an undercount of the population areas won't get the proper funding nor will they get the proper representation in congress. Thus losing seats that the state should have because of its population.

That will give an unfair benefit to republicans.

If you want to dispute that the proof of it was taken to the Supreme Court. At least one conservative judge on that court realized what trump and the republicans are trying to do and that wilber ross lied to the court about their reasons for that question.

Justice Roberts put in his ruling that the reasons the government were "contrived" which means he's saying he doesn't like being lied to.

You can play stupid all you want but all you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

I wonder if you even know you are lying about this?

If we ask the citizenship question, and everyone answers yes or no, the EVERYFUCKINGPERSON has been counted.

No undercount has occurred.

The question can then be used to ACCURATELY apportion representation in our government.

 

[Lesh]

They’ll all be deported by Nov 2020

If this was Russia maybe

 

[whitehall]

Robert's reason was contrived. Every country in the freaking world keeps track of the number of citizens and aliens. We used to do it in the U.S. until president Hussein eliminated the long census form. What possible intellectual reason could you possibly have (outside of TDS) for refusing to keep track of people who are in the country illegally?

 

[Issa]

Another loss? What's new.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They’ll all be deported by Nov 2020

If this was Russia maybe

Da, comrade.

 

[whitehall]

We have a president with a set of balls for a change and sissie democrats would rather have a stagnant economy and anger and unrest if that's what it takes to get a socialist in the White House.. No surprises here

 

[B. Kidd]

They’ll all be deported by Nov 2020

Trump will focus ICE raids in swing districts

That could work against him.

Nah!

 

[kyzr]

Another loss? What's new.

What are the other losses?
So the 2020 census will be the same as 2010. The GOP had the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2016. So what's your point? Don't celebrate too much, like Hillary's fireworks....
It would have been nice having only citizens count for representation and Fed dollars, but I'm not sure that even if the citizenship question was in the 2020 census that Congress would be determined by "citizens" and not "persons". The good news is that gerrymandering is legal again, that should help until we can get the citizenship question on the 2030 census form.

 

[occupied]

It's the republican way. Continually push the limits of constitutionality and every now and then they win one. Democracy is being devoured a bite at a time.

 

[B. Kidd]

It's the republican way. Continually push the limits of constitutionality and every now and then they win one. Democracy is being devoured a bite at a time.

You confuse Democracy with the Mobocracy that you desire.

 

[Meister]

It's the republican way. Continually push the limits of constitutionality and every now and then they win one. Democracy is being devoured a bite at a time.

A democrat talking about the constitutionality of an issue is hilarious. I guess when it only serves them it becomes an issue.

 

[Rustic]

The Supreme Court shot down Trump's attempt to place the citizenship question on the census. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump's reason was "contrived."

"Accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the enterprise." Contrived is judicial code for lying.

With the deadline passed coinciding with this decision from the Supremes, that is enough to stop any President with a half a brain. Of course, that excludes Trump.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” Trump declared, surprising both his DOJ and Commerce Department who had accepted the Court's decision and the printing began without the question.

"The DOJ legal team is forced to say that everything they have said so far is in error -- including the July 1st deadline -- and they still must come up with a legitimate reason, not a political reason, for the question to be included on the census.

"The dance is over. Trump just doesn't know it," I said Tuesday.

"Trump doesn't have the balls to challenge a ruling by the Supreme Court. This is just going to be another photo op, another phony show presented by Trump Productions." That was said today, hours before Trump's announcement.

I know this President well. He is all talk. He proved it again today with his photo op.

"President Donald Trump announced Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means," ABC News reported.

"I am hereby ordering every department and agency in the federal government to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country," Trump said in a Rose Garden announcement. "They must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete, and accurate count of the non-citizen population."

In other words, this is just another photo op, a show in which his followers can cheer mightily for a victory their hero lost.

The President has complete control over his departments. He routinely gives them orders because that is what he is supposed to do. However, today Trump Productions made a big show of a President doing what he normally does on a daily basis.

Moreover, the order appears merely to provide the plans the Census Bureau had announced last year, making it less a new policy than a means of covering Trump’s retreat.

Why all this? The first answer is, Trump likes a good show in which he has the starring role.

The second answer is, he lost a fight he never should have started. He was trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. His fans will believe it, but the vast majority of Americans will not.

It was just another photo op.

Roberts is nothing more than an anti-Trumper.....that question has been on the Census many times in the past without an issue......Roberts is just another screw by George Bush....

Yep,
The Bushes have always been about one world government/deep state… the federal Government giving away the peoples money in the form of fucked up foreign aid...

 

[Rustic]

The Supreme Court shot down Trump's attempt to place the citizenship question on the census. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump's reason was "contrived."

"Accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the enterprise." Contrived is judicial code for lying.

With the deadline passed coinciding with this decision from the Supremes, that is enough to stop any President with a half a brain. Of course, that excludes Trump.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” Trump declared, surprising both his DOJ and Commerce Department who had accepted the Court's decision and the printing began without the question.

"The DOJ legal team is forced to say that everything they have said so far is in error -- including the July 1st deadline -- and they still must come up with a legitimate reason, not a political reason, for the question to be included on the census.

"The dance is over. Trump just doesn't know it," I said Tuesday.

"Trump doesn't have the balls to challenge a ruling by the Supreme Court. This is just going to be another photo op, another phony show presented by Trump Productions." That was said today, hours before Trump's announcement.

I know this President well. He is all talk. He proved it again today with his photo op.

"President Donald Trump announced Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means," ABC News reported.

"I am hereby ordering every department and agency in the federal government to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country," Trump said in a Rose Garden announcement. "They must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete, and accurate count of the non-citizen population."

In other words, this is just another photo op, a show in which his followers can cheer mightily for a victory their hero lost.

The President has complete control over his departments. He routinely gives them orders because that is what he is supposed to do. However, today Trump Productions made a big show of a President doing what he normally does on a daily basis.

Moreover, the order appears merely to provide the plans the Census Bureau had announced last year, making it less a new policy than a means of covering Trump’s retreat.

Why all this? The first answer is, Trump likes a good show in which he has the starring role.

The second answer is, he lost a fight he never should have started. He was trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. His fans will believe it, but the vast majority of Americans will not.

It was just another photo op.

 

[Tax Man]

The Supreme Court shot down Trump's attempt to place the citizenship question on the census. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump's reason was "contrived."

"Accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the enterprise." Contrived is judicial code for lying.

With the deadline passed coinciding with this decision from the Supremes, that is enough to stop any President with a half a brain. Of course, that excludes Trump.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” Trump declared, surprising both his DOJ and Commerce Department who had accepted the Court's decision and the printing began without the question.

"The DOJ legal team is forced to say that everything they have said so far is in error -- including the July 1st deadline -- and they still must come up with a legitimate reason, not a political reason, for the question to be included on the census.

"The dance is over. Trump just doesn't know it," I said Tuesday.

"Trump doesn't have the balls to challenge a ruling by the Supreme Court. This is just going to be another photo op, another phony show presented by Trump Productions." That was said today, hours before Trump's announcement.

I know this President well. He is all talk. He proved it again today with his photo op.

"President Donald Trump announced Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means," ABC News reported.

"I am hereby ordering every department and agency in the federal government to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country," Trump said in a Rose Garden announcement. "They must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete, and accurate count of the non-citizen population."

In other words, this is just another photo op, a show in which his followers can cheer mightily for a victory their hero lost.

The President has complete control over his departments. He routinely gives them orders because that is what he is supposed to do. However, today Trump Productions made a big show of a President doing what he normally does on a daily basis.

Moreover, the order appears merely to provide the plans the Census Bureau had announced last year, making it less a new policy than a means of covering Trump’s retreat.

Why all this? The first answer is, Trump likes a good show in which he has the starring role.

The second answer is, he lost a fight he never should have started. He was trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. His fans will believe it, but the vast majority of Americans will not.

It was just another photo op.

tRump has never fought anyone in his life let alone for anything. He is all wind and no sail.

 

[Tax Man]

The Supreme Court shot down Trump's attempt to place the citizenship question on the census. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump's reason was "contrived."

"Accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the enterprise." Contrived is judicial code for lying.

With the deadline passed coinciding with this decision from the Supremes, that is enough to stop any President with a half a brain. Of course, that excludes Trump.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” Trump declared, surprising both his DOJ and Commerce Department who had accepted the Court's decision and the printing began without the question.

"The DOJ legal team is forced to say that everything they have said so far is in error -- including the July 1st deadline -- and they still must come up with a legitimate reason, not a political reason, for the question to be included on the census.

"The dance is over. Trump just doesn't know it," I said Tuesday.

"Trump doesn't have the balls to challenge a ruling by the Supreme Court. This is just going to be another photo op, another phony show presented by Trump Productions." That was said today, hours before Trump's announcement.

I know this President well. He is all talk. He proved it again today with his photo op.

"President Donald Trump announced Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means," ABC News reported.

"I am hereby ordering every department and agency in the federal government to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country," Trump said in a Rose Garden announcement. "They must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete, and accurate count of the non-citizen population."

In other words, this is just another photo op, a show in which his followers can cheer mightily for a victory their hero lost.

The President has complete control over his departments. He routinely gives them orders because that is what he is supposed to do. However, today Trump Productions made a big show of a President doing what he normally does on a daily basis.

Moreover, the order appears merely to provide the plans the Census Bureau had announced last year, making it less a new policy than a means of covering Trump’s retreat.

Why all this? The first answer is, Trump likes a good show in which he has the starring role.

The second answer is, he lost a fight he never should have started. He was trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. His fans will believe it, but the vast majority of Americans will not.

It was just another photo op.

You have it reversed as it is Obama grabbing pussy rump.

 

[Jitss617]

The Supreme Court shot down Trump's attempt to place the citizenship question on the census. Chief Justice John Roberts said that Trump's reason was "contrived."

"Accepting contrived reasons would defeat the purpose of the enterprise." Contrived is judicial code for lying.

With the deadline passed coinciding with this decision from the Supremes, that is enough to stop any President with a half a brain. Of course, that excludes Trump.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” Trump declared, surprising both his DOJ and Commerce Department who had accepted the Court's decision and the printing began without the question.

"The DOJ legal team is forced to say that everything they have said so far is in error -- including the July 1st deadline -- and they still must come up with a legitimate reason, not a political reason, for the question to be included on the census.

"The dance is over. Trump just doesn't know it," I said Tuesday.

"Trump doesn't have the balls to challenge a ruling by the Supreme Court. This is just going to be another photo op, another phony show presented by Trump Productions." That was said today, hours before Trump's announcement.

I know this President well. He is all talk. He proved it again today with his photo op.

"President Donald Trump announced Thursday he is backing down from his effort to include a citizenship question on the 2020 census, and will instead take executive action that instructs the Commerce Department to obtain an estimate of U.S. citizenship through other means," ABC News reported.

"I am hereby ordering every department and agency in the federal government to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country," Trump said in a Rose Garden announcement. "They must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete, and accurate count of the non-citizen population."

In other words, this is just another photo op, a show in which his followers can cheer mightily for a victory their hero lost.

The President has complete control over his departments. He routinely gives them orders because that is what he is supposed to do. However, today Trump Productions made a big show of a President doing what he normally does on a daily basis.

Moreover, the order appears merely to provide the plans the Census Bureau had announced last year, making it less a new policy than a means of covering Trump’s retreat.

Why all this? The first answer is, Trump likes a good show in which he has the starring role.

The second answer is, he lost a fight he never should have started. He was trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. His fans will believe it, but the vast majority of Americans will not.

It was just another photo op.

tRump has never fought anyone in his life let alone for anything. He is all wind and no sail.

Tds