Trump and today's Republicans are redefining "Conservatism"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by deanrd, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. deanrd
    Online

    deanrd Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    6,697
    Thanks Received:
    936
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Ratings:
    +5,371
    I remember past statements like "compassionate conservatism".

    Conservatives talked about preserving the values and morals of traditional United States.

    What is conservatism today? From Trump and today's GOP, how would you define "conservatism". Remember, the marker is defined by GOP policies. What are GOP policies that could be used to define "conservatism".
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
  2. eddiew37
    Offline

    eddiew37 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2016
    Messages:
    5,986
    Thanks Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    195
    Ratings:
    +2,983
    Pussy grabbing gets you a job in the WH.....and lol family values
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. BuckToothMoron
    Offline

    BuckToothMoron Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2016
    Messages:
    5,252
    Thanks Received:
    919
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Ratings:
    +5,020
    To many conservatives like myself, the GOP does not represent my version of conservatism. I am not a Republican, and Trump is not a conservative IMO.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. occupied
    Offline

    occupied Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    17,600
    Thanks Received:
    2,411
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,694
    They need a new word for themselves, the traditional definition of "conservative" no longer applies to these people. Trouble is, the existing words that already describe them such as fascist, plutocrat and theocrat have negative connotations.
     
  5. Meathead
    Offline

    Meathead Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2012
    Messages:
    21,073
    Thanks Received:
    2,931
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Location:
    Prague, Czech Republic
    Ratings:
    +14,120
    Trump has redefined absolutely everything in the world of US politics singlehandedly.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. JGalt
    Offline

    JGalt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Messages:
    5,266
    Thanks Received:
    1,110
    Trophy Points:
    380
    Location:
    North
    Ratings:
    +6,746
    Putting a strict constitutional conservative like Gorsuch on the SC defines what "conservatism" is. I never liked the term "compassionate conservative". That just meant that we were willing to give the left what it wanted.

    I prefer to call myself an "Alinsky Conservative" and am more aligned with Crowder, Milo, Breitbart, etc. Trump appears to be one too: He has no reservations against using the same tactics the left has been using for decades.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. deanrd
    Online

    deanrd Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    6,697
    Thanks Received:
    936
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Ratings:
    +5,371
    So you are saying conservatives have no compassion.

    That is definitely something we can both agree with.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Funny and Agree!! Funny and Agree!! x 1
  8. occupied
    Offline

    occupied Gold Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2011
    Messages:
    17,600
    Thanks Received:
    2,411
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,694
    A conservative without a clear moral core is a fascist, no need to invent new terms for an old problem of human governance.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  9. Sunni Man
    Offline

    Sunni Man Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    Messages:
    44,636
    Thanks Received:
    6,389
    Trophy Points:
    1,860
    Location:
    Patriotic American Muslim
    Ratings:
    +21,888
    Trump is the best president America has had in decades. ..... :thup:
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  10. deanrd
    Online

    deanrd Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2017
    Messages:
    6,697
    Thanks Received:
    936
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Ratings:
    +5,371
    Perhaps you could give a few examples of what your "conservative values" are? And how they differ with Trump and the GOP?
     

Share This Page