Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Annie, Jun 18, 2006.
I liked it:
I think it is very interesting that people would denigrate the Catholic Church so much, and even perhaps be atheist, and at the same time hope that the Church continues to thrive. IMO, it adds support to the theory that man is built with an inner need to worship something higher than himself.
As for St. Augustine, everytime I read about him, I am in awe.
Let all things their Creator bless,
And worship Him in humbleness,
O praise Him! Alleluia!
Praise, praise the Father, praise the Son,
And praise the Spirit, Three in One!
O praise Him! O praise Him!
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!
--Francis of Assisi, "All Creatures of Our God and King," c. 1225
God as community. Hello socialism. total b.s.
It's a method for explaining the Trinity, which is one of the most difficult Christian doctrines to explain. While it's not how I would have explained, it seemed to work. Did you see anything doctrinally wrong with his explanation?
God as community is a bullshit commie notion. That's what I'm saying. I'm really talking about that one assertion only.
I like the old explanation. Father, son, holy spirit. Subtituting the collective for this concept is the very definition of becoming a commie. What's wrong with you people?
I really could care less about the worldly popularity and power of the church. We're fighting for our souls, not "the church".
What Mr. Novak did was use an analogy to explain the Father/Son/Spirit relationship. There are more than one Persons in the Trinity; therefore, there is an element of community of the Persons.
Let's look at the quote again:
I dont pretend to understand this. But when I say Trinity, I remind myself to think of God as a Communion of Three Friends. Although that is not quite strong enough, for one must somehow hold that this Communion of Persons constitutes only One God. But this God is more like communion than solitude.
Michael Novak is contrasting the three Persons opf the Trinity against the Greek/Jewish notion of only one Person. Again, it's not the analogy I would have used, but it's not doctrinally incorrect.
It's not three people though. It's the lord himself, his demigod son, and a spirit, which is no way a person.
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