Trig Palin, where's the birth record?

[Gray]

No, I'm not desperately wandering in search of an issue. I'm not "damning her" either for denying it.

All I have asked is a simple question, which NOBODY has even answered yet.

If Trig is her kid, then why not just produce a simple birth certificate to end the outrage? After all this time, why not just produce a simple document?

Because this is not an issue. It never was, except to most lunatic fringe. This is more of a "payback" and diversion for the Obama/Ayers issue. You have as much alluded to that a few times in your posts.

When you have libs siting in a corner giggling and smearing shit all over themselves you do not encourage them by playing their game.

 

[Modbert]

Because this is not an issue. It never was, except to most lunatic fringe. This is more of a "payback" and diversion for the Obama/Ayers issue. You have as much alluded to that a few times in your posts.

When you have libs siting in a corner giggling and smearing shit all over themselves you do not encourage them by playing their game.

So let me ask you something Gray, my final question on this topic posed to you.

If Sarah turns out to be lying the whole time, will that affect your trust in her?

 

[Jon]

You have as much alluded to that a few times in your posts.

Alluded to it? Pfft. He proved it when I pointed out that her lying about Trig is no different than Obama lying about Ayers and Wright, and all he could respond with was something about her preacher. He's taking lessons from Kirk, it seems. He knows how to deflect like the best of them.

 

[Modbert]

Alluded to it? Pfft. He proved it when I pointed out that her lying about Trig is no different than Obama lying about Ayers and Wright, and all he could respond with was something about her preacher. He's taking lessons from Kirk, it seems. He knows how to deflect like the best of them.

How did Obama lie about Ayers and Wright? Where did he specifically lie? And all I said don't act like Obama is the only one with a crazy preacher.

 

[Gray]

So let me ask you something Gray, my final question on this topic posed to you.

If Sarah turns out to be lying the whole time, will that affect your trust in her?

I really do not like what ifs. Too many variables. I suppose I would trust her as much as I can any Politician. Which would be sad, because right now I view her heads above the rest.

 

[Jon]

How did Obama lie about Ayers and Wright? Where did he specifically lie? And all I said don't act like Obama is the only one with a crazy preacher.

I've already said it, twice, but apparently you're illiterate.

Originally, Ayers was "just some guy in his neighborhood." This was Obama's statement. Then, it became public that they served on a board together AND that Ayers launched Obama's political career from his home. Obama's statement then became, "He's reformed." So, he originally lied about how closely he was associated with Ayers. Hell, how do we know they're not plotting to blow up something now? He's already lied once, who's to say he's not still lying about it?

Also, Obama's first reaction when Wright's controversial sermons became public was that he never heard Wright say those things in church. Then he later said that he did in fact hear some of these statements, but that he didn't agree with them yet still respected Wright in spite of them. A week later he threw Wright under the bus because his supporters practically forced him to. So, where does he really stand with Wright? Did he hear the statements, or didn't he? Does he still respect Wright, or doesn't he?

 

[Gray]

I've already said it, twice, but apparently you're illiterate.

Originally, Ayers was "just some guy in his neighborhood." This was Obama's statement. Then, it became public that they served on a board together AND that Ayers launched Obama's political career from his home. Obama's statement then became, "He's reformed." So, he originally lied about how closely he was associated with Ayers. Hell, how do we know they're not plotting to blow up something now? He's already lied once, who's to say he's not still lying about it?

Also, Obama's first reaction when Wright's controversial sermons became public was that he never heard Wright say those things in church. Then he later said that he did in fact hear some of these statements, but that he didn't agree with them yet still respected Wright in spite of them. A week later he threw Wright under the bus because his supporters practically forced him to. So, where does he really stand with Wright? Did he hear the statements, or didn't he? Does he still respect Wright, or doesn't he?

There cannot be room under that bus for any more of his past associates.

 

[Jon]

There cannot be room under that bus for any more of his past associates.

I know, between Wright, Pfleger, and MoveOn.org, all he really has any room left for is Michelle. Let's hope he throws her in head first, though.

 

[Modbert]

I've already said it, twice, but apparently you're illiterate.

Originally, Ayers was "just some guy in his neighborhood." This was Obama's statement. Then, it became public that they served on a board together AND that Ayers launched Obama's political career from his home. Obama's statement then became, "He's reformed." So, he originally lied about how closely he was associated with Ayers. Hell, how do we know they're not plotting to blow up something now? He's already lied once, who's to say he's not still lying about it?

Also, Obama's first reaction when Wright's controversial sermons became public was that he never heard Wright say those things in church. Then he later said that he did in fact hear some of these statements, but that he didn't agree with them yet still respected Wright in spite of them. A week later he threw Wright under the bus because his supporters practically forced him to. So, where does he really stand with Wright? Did he hear the statements, or didn't he? Does he still respect Wright, or doesn't he?

I understand what your saying though. Personally, I believe the friendship between Ayers and Obama is at best a casual one.

And Obama/Wright is more complicated. I don't think Obama believes in what Wright said but he certainly did sit there.

I bolded the above for a reason by the way, didn't you just talk about how you AREN'T one of the ones to call Obama a terrorist, then it would be a conspiracy theory?

 

[Modbert]

I know, between Wright, Pfleger, and MoveOn.org, all he really has any room left for is Michelle. Let's hope he throws her in head first, though.

Maybe you and Bill O'Reilly can go on that Lynching party he wanted to have for Michelle.

 

[Jon]

I understand what your saying though. Personally, I believe the friendship between Ayers and Obama is at best a casual one.

So if McCain was casually friends with Timothy McVeigh, you'd be okay with that?

And Obama/Wright is more complicated. I don't think Obama believes in what Wright said but he certainly did sit there.

He did more than sit there. He said on numerous occasions that Wright and Pfleger were his "mentors" during his early years. I wouldn't have a mentor I didn't agree with.

I bolded the above for a reason by the way, didn't you just talk about how you AREN'T one of the ones to call Obama a terrorist, then it would be a conspiracy theory?

It was a hypothetical. If he lied once, he'll do it again. That was my point.

 

[Jon]

Maybe you and Bill O'Reilly can go on that Lynching party he wanted to have for Michelle.

I wouldn't lynch her, but I wouldn't mind punching the bitch in the throat.

 

[Modbert]

So if McCain was casually friends with Timothy McVeigh, you'd be okay with that?



He did more than sit there. He said on numerous occasions that Wright and Pfleger were his "mentors" during his early years. I wouldn't have a mentor I didn't agree with.



It was a hypothetical. If he lied once, he'll do it again. That was my point.

Timothy McVeigh killed people, if Ayers had killed people then I wouldn't be okay with it. You once again compare Obama to a terrorist.

You really have forgotten what you said a few pages ago eh?

 

[Modbert]

I wouldn't lynch her, but I wouldn't mind punching the bitch in the throat.

Oh yeah, that's what a real man would do huh?

God forbid a Liberal said about any of the right ring women, might call us sexist.

 

[Jon]

Timothy McVeigh killed people, if Ayers had killed people then I wouldn't be okay with it. You once again compare Obama to a terrorist.

You really have forgotten what you said a few pages ago eh?

Ayers admitted to wanting to have killed people. What's the difference? And I didn't compare Obama to McVeigh, I compared Ayers to McVeigh. I thought you understood that?

 

[Modbert]

The Ayers connection isn't a conspiracy, it's a fact. Obama has ties to the guys. No one's accusing Obama of being a terrorist, we simply point out that he associates with one. Now if I tried to link Obama to the Weather Underground attacks and make up a story about his being a terrorist bomber at the age of 8, THAT'S a conspiracy. Pointing out a known fact isn't a conspiracy. Sorry.

You forget your own words so quickly eh?

 

[Modbert]

Ayers admitted to wanting to have killed people. What's the difference? And I didn't compare Obama to McVeigh, I compared Ayers to McVeigh. I thought you understood that?

Comparing Ayers to McVeigh isn't a fair comparison either way. One is a murderer, one isn't. One may of had the intent to kill others, but didn't do so.

Your the one who wants to punch Michelle Obama in the throat, that kills her then what?

 

[Jon]

Oh yeah, that's what a real man would do huh?

God forbid a Liberal said about any of the right ring women, might call us sexist.

You can say what you want. I hate that bitch with a passion. More than anything I want Obama to lose because I don't want that snively twat to be First Lady. She doesn't deserve the title. She's a disgusting, racist, socialist bitch who has no respect for anyone other than her husband.

 

[Modbert]

You can say what you want. I hate that bitch with a passion. More than anything I want Obama to lose because I don't want that snively twat to be First Lady. She doesn't deserve the title. She's a disgusting, racist, socialist bitch who has no respect for anyone other than her husband.

And using such langauge? Would your mother approve?

And do you mind proving this if you don't mind?

And never hate your enemies, it affects your judgement.

 

[Gray]

I understand what your saying though. Personally, I believe the friendship between Ayers and Obama is at best a casual one.

And Obama/Wright is more complicated. I don't think Obama believes in what Wright said but he certainly did sit there.

I bolded the above for a reason by the way, didn't you just talk about how you AREN'T one of the ones to call Obama a terrorist, then it would be a conspiracy theory?

Listen.....

The most important trait in a great leader is the ability to surround himself with brilliant people of high moral fiber.

No one can know everything.....and it is a sign of greatness that one can put his ego aside and draw upon the advice and wisdom of those he selected to aid him/her.

What is my point?

Think about it. In this venue Obama has failed miserably and lacks the ability to recognize brilliance and high morality.

This suggests he will surround himself with dullards and thugs. That kind of cabinet for a president could pose a very real threat to this nation.