Treason and the Constitution

[Mr. President]

He was killed in the act. There is no trial needed for that. When you are part of a terrorist organization who is currently at war with the United States there IS NO TRIAL. You are jacking off to your idea of the constitution and not the constitution itself.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

If a person joins an organization or country that has declared war on the United States, that person becomes an enemy combatant. Enemy combatants do not have the right to judicial process. They have the right to die.

This is not a new situation. It happened in World War II when some Germans returned to Germany at Hitler's urging. They joined the Wermacht and fought against the United States. They were treated just like citizens of Germany in the Wermacht. Some were killed in combat and some were captured by the allies. If they were captured, they spent the rest of the war in a prison camp as a prisoner of war.

Why are we worried about this?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He was killed in the act. There is no trial needed for that. When you are part of a terrorist organization who is currently at war with the United States there IS NO TRIAL. You are jacking off to your idea of the constitution and not the constitution itself.

In the act of what? Where is the evidence presented in a court of law?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If a person joins an organization or country that has declared war on the United States, that person becomes an enemy combatant. Enemy combatants do not have the right to judicial process. They have the right to die.

This is not a new situation. It happened in World War II when some Germans returned to Germany at Hitler's urging. They joined the Wermacht and fought against the United States. They were treated just like citizens of Germany in the Wermacht. Some were killed in combat and some were captured by the allies. If they were captured, they spent the rest of the war in a prison camp as a prisoner of war.

Why are we worried about this?

One more time

Article 3
Section 3 - Treason


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Congress not the president set the punishment. So do we just throw the Constitution away for certain individuals? Who's to say you won't be next? Since you are reitred military you are already flagged.

 

[California Girl]

Be sure and write the republican candidates and urge them to really push their outrage over killing a terrorist.

A person is only a terrorist until it starts attacking your group such as the OWS protesters.

A terrorist is a person engaged in plots to kill innocent civilians or assisting them and I just cannot bring myself to think it is a bad thing when they get blown into bits.

Do you hate Obama so much that you take the side of filth like that just because of who brought him down? Perhaps you would have asked him to give himself up or at least travel to a civilized country with an extradition treaty? Jesus you people pick some crappy things to get upset about.

How about we just indict real traitors - like Boxer and Pelosi for the very real treason they committed... I mean treason as defined in the Constitution.

 

[Mr. President]

Haha he was with 4 other known terrorists when he was killed. Leaving a terrorist hide out with weapons inside.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Haha he was with 4 other known terrorists when he was killed. Leaving a terrorist hide out with weapons inside.

Was he tried in a court of law?

 

[Mr. President]

If Joe points a gun at sally for absolutely no reason other than he decided he wants to kill her and the cop shoots joe no trial is needed.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If Joe points a gun at sally for absolutely no reason other than he decided he wants to kill her and the cop shoots joe no trial is needed.

Did he point a gun at anyone was he in the act?

 

[Mr. President]

Yes on multiple occasions hence the drone that was looking for him. When he was shot he was carrying weapons and on his way to commit another terrorist attack. We shouldn't have to put soldiers in front of bullets to arrest a man that a drone can kill and is already on the terrorist watchlist of multiple countries.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yes on multiple occasions hence the drone that was looking for him. When he was shot he was carrying weapons and on his way to commit another terrorist attack. We shouldn't have to put soldiers in front of bullets to arrest a man that a drone can kill and is already on the terrorist watchlist of multiple countries.

Who said so? The one who had him assassinated? Was their a trial? Who was the judge? Any jury? Witness?

 

[Mr. President]

People like you get soldiers killed. Your interpretation of the Constitution weakens America. He was legally killed end of story.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

People like you get soldiers killed. Your interpretation of the Constitution weakens America. He was legally killed end of story.

People like me? People like you are the reason we are losing our rights and freedoms. I am a firm Constitutionalist there is no gray area when it comes to due porocess and in the act of. If he wasn't in the direct act or on the battlefield he was striped of his due process end of story.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

People like you get soldiers killed. Your interpretation of the Constitution weakens America. He was legally killed end of story.

Sending soldiers needlessly to war gets them killed.

His interpretation of the Constitution conforms with current case law and the original intent: maximum government restriction; America is weakened when we violate these tenets.

He was killed, it was anything but legal, and it’s nowhere near the end of the story.

 

[Mr. President]

Haha you two are spineless. The Constitution supports the killing of terrorist and enemy combatants.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Haha you two are spineless. The Constitution supports the killing of terrorist and enemy combatants.

People like you are the reason our rights are being taken away. No where does it give authority to assassinate American citizens. So tell me did obama move the battlefield into Yemen? Did he declare another unauthorized war?

 

[Mr. President]

The only exception to the rule is where the individual poses a grave threat of such imminence that judicial process is infeasible and lethal force is the only option that could reasonably address the threat.

Oooooooh the Constitution says WHAT????????????????????

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The only exception to the rule is where the individual poses a grave threat of such imminence that judicial process is infeasible and lethal force is the only option that could reasonably address the threat.

Oooooooh the Constitution says WHAT????????????????????

That wasn't proven in a court of law you are on the losing end of this argument. And don't say because the government said so. The government said Iraq had WMD's.

 

[Mr. President]

The constitution gives the executive branch the authority to kill any individual who poses a grave threat of such imminence that judicial process is infeasible and lethal force is the only option that could reasonably address the threat

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The constitution gives the executive branch the authority to kill any individual who poses a grave threat of such imminence that judicial process is infeasible and lethal force is the only option that could reasonably address the threat

No it doesn't I suggest you read Article 3 Section 3