Trained Dogs Can Help Vets With PTSD – But VA Won't Pay

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They can give their inefficient and uncaring administrators huge bonuses. But they can't come up with the dough to help guys and gals who fought for this country. Read the disgraceful story @ Veterans Say Trained Dogs Help With PTSD, But The VA Won't Pay
 
Dogs are awesome ~ many of these places that train dogs give them to people who need them for free, although there is a long waiting list.
This should be a no brainier for the VA to put the money into training these dogs.
 
It seems like a no brainer.
Good dogs possess many healing powers for those with depression, even untrained. A trained service dog even more, from servicepoodle.com-
Get you out of bed in the morning
Help you keep more regular hours
Get you to exercise every day
Provide company and affection
Give you a sense of accomplishment
Distract you from obsessive or negative thoughts
Make you feel more confident / less vulnerable
Help you meet and talk to people
Make you more appealing to others
A Service Dog Can Also Be Trained To...
Remind you when to eat or take meds
Let you know when it's time for bed or time to get up
Keep track of keys, phone, etc.
Actively encourage you to play or exercise
Carry your wallet and ID for safekeeping
Lead you out to a safe place when you are overwhelmed
Pretend to need to go out when you need an excuse to leave
Turn on lights and check a room before you go in
Keep you from unwanted physical contact or proximity, e.g: hand money or card to cashier
Walk on right to keep right hand in use (you can't shake hands)
Put body between you and nearby people
Protect, comfort, and calm (or stimulate) you during an episode
Alert you to people approaching
Interrupt repetitive or compulsive behavior
Provide a reality check when hallucination is suspected
Interrupt dissociation, self-mutilation, or other unwanted states and behaviors
Assist with side effects or symptoms, e.g.: brace you when dizzy or unsteady
Help you get up after fall or collapse
Bring meds, water, etc.
Bring phone
Get help, e.g.: bark to attract attention to you
Go for help
Dial 911


Dogs are awesome ~ many of these places that train dogs give them to people who need them for free, although there is a long waiting list.
This should be a no brainier for the VA to put the money into training these dogs.
 
We adopted 2 rescue dogs, a german shepherd and a belgian shepherd, around Thanksgiving. I am going to get them certified as therapy dogs. Rescue dogs are wonderful.
Not so sure they need to be trained unless you have a physical disability.
Dogs just make you feel good trained or not.
I just rescued a dog over the summer, she is so awesome
 
Yes, they are chipped.
We adopted 2 rescue dogs, a german shepherd and a belgian shepherd, around Thanksgiving. I am going to get them certified as therapy dogs. Rescue dogs are wonderful.
Not so sure they need to be trained unless you have a physical disability.
Dogs just make you feel good trained or not.
I just rescued a dog over the summer, she is so awesome

Hope you got them chips
 
Rescues are wonderful. They are always so grateful. We have had 8 over the years. We recently had to put one down about 6 months ago. She was around 17 and just couldn't get up one day, and lost control of her bladder, etc.
Not so sure they need to be trained unless you have a physical disability.
Dogs just make you feel good trained or not.
I just rescued a dog over the summer, she is so awesome

Best dog I ever had was a rescue.

Cozmo,we lost him to congestive heart failure last year.
I sure miss him...
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Trained dogs are hard to find. They use them for physically injured Vets. What degree of PTSD do you think qualifies a Vet for a trained dog?
 
PTSD dog program bein' called into question...

VA Study of Service Dogs for Vets with PTSD Faces Questions
Apr 21, 2016 | Army veteran Joe Aguirre opens a restaurant door, then steps aside to let his golden retriever take point. "Clear," Aguirre commands, and 3-year-old Munger pivots right, left, then right again, sweeping the room for potential threats.
"He's basically looking for ... anything that would be out of the ordinary. A bag. A particular weapon. People acting erratic," says Aguirre, who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder after three tours of duty in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. At the cash register, Aguirre says "Block," and the dog places himself perpendicular to his master, creating a buffer to anyone who might approach. Before Munger, a simple outing like this would have been terrifying, if not impossible. "He's put faith back into my way of looking at society," Aguirre says. But do the comfort and security this lovable dog provides come at the expense of true healing from PTSD? Is Munger merely preventing Aguirre from confronting his demons?

Since 2002, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs has paid veterinary bills to veterans with guide or service dogs for physical disabilities. Now, the agency is in the midst of a $12 million study to gauge the efficacy and costs of using dogs to help those who suffer from post-traumatic stress. Four years in, that research has been plagued by problems. Only about 50 dogs have been placed with veterans, and critics question whether the protocol itself is flawed — with the dogs being trained to do things that could reinforce fears. Others worry the animals could become a substitute for the hard work that comes with therapy. "You will have the veterans go to more places with the dogs and do more things than they would otherwise do. But they are reliant on the dog, not on their knowledge of ... whether really they are afraid of a ghost," said Dr. Edna Foa, director of the Center for Treatment and Study of Anxiety at the University of Pennsylvania Perelman School of Medicine.

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Army veteran Joe Aguirre drapes a tattooed arm across the back of his service dog, Munger, in Fayetteville, N.C.​

More than 350,000 veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars have sought help from the VA for PTSD. Yet the agency is authorized to pay only for "evidence-based" therapies such as cognitive processing and prolonged exposure, which involve having veterans confront and analyze traumatic events. In 2010, Congress permitted the VA to study alternative treatments for PTSD, including the therapeutic use of animals. The study began in late 2011 in Tampa, Florida, with three nonprofits contracted to provide up to 200 service dogs for veterans, who would be compared against a control group that did not receive dogs. The effort soon ran into trouble. The VA cut off two of the three dog vendors following biting incidents involving participants' children. The final contract was terminated in August 2012 amid allegations of lax veterinary care and placement of dogs "with known aggressive behavior," according to VA records. By then, only 17 dogs had been placed.

During the next year and a half, the study protocol was revamped to exclude veterans with children under age 10. It also dropped the no-dog control in favor of a group that would receive less-specialized "emotional support dogs" whose "sole function is to provide comfort." Critics of the study object most strongly to the tasks the VA is requiring of the dogs — sweeping the perimeter of a room before a veteran enters, for example, or protecting the veteran by "blocking." "Isn't that saying that al-Qaida could be behind the shower curtain? That's supporting paranoid, pathological thinking," said Meg Daley Olmert, author of a book on how contact with a dog can create a sense of well-being.

More VA Study of Service Dogs for Vets with PTSD Faces Questions | Military.com
 
My dil has ptsd, and a trained therapy dog. He's a thousand times.more helpful than meds..
 

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