Total cost of nuclear

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4spUp_LzEPM&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active]Fukushima - Total Cost - YouTube[/ame]

    watch and take in what is being told here. Forget the presumptions you think now, if everyone in America knows about the real cost of nuclear power, then we have a chance to get rid of it.


    The man on right is Arnold Gunderson who was the chief executive for the Nuclear energy board, obviously this guy knows what he is talking about, because he used to be the head of Nuclear power. After retiring from his post, Arnie started to tell people the costs of nuclear power. In this video, he will talk about how maybe this way of getting energy is not the best. "Arnie" has no reason to spread fear into Americans, nor is he getting money for publicizing the truth about Nuclear power. Simply, he is speaking the truth, and it's probably in our best interest to listen.
     
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    The local nuclear plant provides fully 25% of the power for Westchester County, losing it would be catastrophic. There'd be no street lights, no refrigerators, no heat in winter or AC in summer, in short, it's the kind of life Progressives have in store for America
     
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    THis is a complete turd... First off -- "Arnie" is NOT the former head of Nuclear Power. That's a premise that used to validate the importance of his rants. Best I can tell, he's a washed up math teacher (who has problems with fictious big numbers) who used to work in the nuclear industry..

    Second off -- calculating a cost of million dollars for anyone exposed to a single atom of exposure to Fukushima is a fantasy. Nuclear medicine saved my life last year. I VOLUNTARILY exposed myself to radiation 10 times greater than the exposure of most folks to the Fukushima explosions. Where's MY million dollars???

    Don't know why you're impressed by radicalized shamans.. Thankfully, your gullibility is rare. Truth is - commercial nuclear power is safe, economical, and enviromentally sound compared to the alternatives that can provide 24/7 power with such a tiny waste stream. ESPECIALLY when one realizes that ANY toxic waste stream has to be handled and accounted for as though it has a half-life of a millenium. That goes for the millions of TONS of toxics in battery waste that the "green econauts" are unleashing for electric vehicles.

    Don't waste my time with "Arnie"...
     
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    The "costs" of nuclear nuisance are inestimable.

    With chimpy petroleum-people controlling agendas, so it gets pronounced: ooh, ooh, "nukuler," we are supposed to pray, the costly instant debacle of nuclear energy will get from construction, all the way to chill of waste, 10,000 years away, without a problem. Even on Planet of the Apes nuclear power is bound to be a problem! They chimpy up there!

    As we have seen, this does not happen, for even 1000 of those years, yet. We have 31 reactors, like those at Fukushima, where the electricity can get taken out, and if the pumps fail, for any reason, we have a meltdown.

    Make a mistake with uranium, somebody dies, painfully, some area must be completely avoided, for a long time, or some kid gets born, without a skull or a face or hands or arms or legs. Major chromosome damage happens, from any nuclear accident or shoot-'em-up, with depleted uranium ammo, which the US uses, a lot.

    People who want to argue for nuclear power are blocking CO2-neutral biomass media, such as hemp and switchgrass, since petroleum and nuclear special interests own US media, all the way to Al Gore and any skeptic he talks to, without solving re-greening, by biomass research advocacy and by support for genetically engineered plants.

    We have to address carbonic acidification, anyway, with re-greening. So we might as well get to that, rather than burden ourselves with costly problems, always about to escalate, to China-syndrome disasters. Stupid is, as stupid does.
     
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    bobGnote:

    Off topic -- but what the heck -- You say you like burning hemp and switchgrass for power.. You calll this "biomass" -- Question --

    If we can burn hemp cleanly for power generation -- why in the world is that different then burning coal cleanly? Or do you just want to move closer to the 1st Hemp burner they build in your neighborhood for the fumes?

    This ought to be good..
     
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    'CO2-neutral' means no net release of CO2 issues, from growing plant media, then burning it. Hemp can also be used to manufacture food and durable products, but no.

    Hemp seed-oil is the most nutritious food oil. When the oceanic food chain collapses from carbonic acid poisoning in the CO2 exchange, we grow hemp, or we may go hungry, as well as less likely to run internal combustion engines.

    Too many fuck-tards and pigs are in the way, of either legalizing hemp or growing switchgrass, including prison, war, petro, and nuke anti-industries, which are actually special-interest cartels.

    Would you believe 'CO2-neutral biomass' is not self-explanatory, to all kinda fuck-tards?

    Yep. I reckon so. This better be good, fuck-tard. 'Self-explanatory' is the best I can do. And then there is the added cleanliness, without sulfur or complex hydrocarbons, from chromosome-breaking petroleum.

    Nuclear power is clean, until you add up the risk from fuck-tards playing with it, for the 10,000 years it takes, to chill the waste, and on the way, fuck-tards playing with it always forget to design a decent cooling system, which works in all emergency scenarios, since fuck-tards just need the money, and making nuclear plants and calling it 'nukuler' is like stealing and killing, both! In fact, it will work out to both, eventually.
     
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    Less "fuck-tard" -- more reality would have been less entertaining.. You did swell..

    Please continue to be an air-head and ignore reality.... Blame all the war, oil, Republican, drug warriors you want to..

    IN FACT --- PLEASE BLAME THE SIERRA CLUB..

    Massachusetts Chapter Sierra Club

    Don't tell me that HEMP solves all the problems of biomass conversion.. You HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE.. But hey -- don't wake up -- don't smell the coffee, keep on tok'king bro or sis..............
     
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    But...but...the potheads want their WEED!!!! Give them WEED or give them death! Dopers unite, weed for everyone! Some of this gang have shown up at peak oil sites, advocating the same sort of nonsense, no wonder it sounds so familiar, except even the peakers (themselves pretty retarded) spot the stoners a mile away.
     
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    Since we're already burning food for ethanol, it seems natural we'd just REPLACE our food producing land with Billions of acre of hemp.. Until we find out that there's a massive Doritos shortage at the next 4:20 club meeting..
    :eek:
     
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    You will find no complaint from me, replacing one type of biomass based fuel with another. However, as the sudden and massive outbreak of glaucoma, weird and unsubstantiated pain, and other diagnosis exploding when legalized weed shows up, you can understand that such coincidences happening, is a bit suspicious.

    Advocates use a perfectly reasonable use for weed, say, helping out with various "pain", and suddenly "pain" is being diagnosed in 1 in 10 otherwise healthy adults. Goodness knows what they will dream up to get the stuff into every school or work place, but getting it grown all over the country as "fuel" would certainly seem to fit right in with how prior distractions have worked out.
     

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