Torture Is Not an American Value

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    If it worked for them, it will work for US. It's all about being too cowardly to keep our values.


    For those who favor torture, you are................................

    America's Anti-Torture Tradition

    Edited to comply with copyright policy. ~ A-15
     
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    there's a new sheriff in town,, he dosen't torture, lets see where that leads us..
     
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    my point has always been, not everything you guys consider torture is in fact torture
     
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    i would like to see us do it the way bill clinton did it....outsource it to a foreign country ....
     
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    Who is the final arbiter on what is and what is not torture?

    Should a panel of conservatives be compiled to make that determination? Maybe it should just be Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck that make the decision.
     
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    you always end up sounding sooo koolaidish when you say stuff like that.. most doctors aren't that DUmb.
     
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    The final arbiter is the law. The US signed treaties specifically oulawing waterboarding. Those treaties when ratified by the Congress became Supreme US law according to the Constitution.

    There is no doubt that we tortured and there is no doubt it was against the law.
     
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    The fact that the US deemed it a war crime and prosecuted others for water torture controlled drowing against our guys is good enough evidence for me. The fact there are laws and treaties saying its illegal tops it off.

    You don't get to say it's a crime when someone does it to us but it's ok for us to do it to others. That is hypocritical.
     
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    yes, that should be it....you got me :cuckoo:
     
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    please show me the treaty that specifically outlawed waterboarding in the cases we are talking about now....

    if you think it is the UN, you're wrong, waterboarding is not mentioned. if you say geneva, you're wrong, those guys are not covered....

    that we tortured is YOUR opinion, not fact
     

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