Toronto mass shooter got his gun illegally, making those Canada gun laws useless....

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    You continuously make the same logical fallacy error over and over and over again.

    Laws that restrict guns - or drugs or gambling or prostitution - does not mean that these illegal things never happen.

    What laws are intended to do is to restrict access to modify behavior and limit damage from the illegal activity. It doesn't mean that the illegal things never happen. If that were true, there would never be any crime.

    But you don't seem to understand this simple axiom.
     
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    What you can't or won't see is that their gangs are getting more violent....likely do to an influx of foriegn immigrants..the same dynamic that is causing more crime in europe......crime stats are not static, if the criminals increase their violence, they go up....that should be obvious to someone as slow as you...
     
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    Wrong.... you make the same stupid argument.

    The gun laws you people want are targeted at the wrong group...law abiding gun owners. Laws do not physically stop criminal acts, they punish them when they are committed.....

    That means a law against speeding doesn't stop someone from breaking it, it allows you to punish them if they do.

    Your gun control measures ... gun registration, gun licensing, universal background checks, magazine bans, rifle bans...target law abiding citizens....so they do not lower the gun crime rate, at all........

    the gun laws we know are effective..... putting criminals in jail for 30 years for actual gun crimes, rape, robbery and murder, actually work....but democrats keep fighting to reduce gun sentences, and keep letting violent criminals out of jail...

    So sell your silly point somewhere else.
     
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    Dude, your argument is such a logical fallacy that to call it retarded would be an understatement.

    How many dozens of threads have you started with the same logical fallacy - "Country X has strict gun laws but someone was killed with a gun, so gun laws don't work?"

    By your logic, someone killed someone else in a car accident while speeding, so speeding laws don't work. Get rid of all speeding laws. Let everyone drive as fast as they want. Go 100 mph in a School Zone.

    Outstanding.

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    No.... my arguments are that gun crime is increasing in those countries after they passed the gun laws....as their criminals decide to use more guns.... and their gun control laws do not stop them.

    You are again using the silly argument.... you essentially are saying that speed laws physically stop someone from breaking them.... we say you are stupid. We say that those laws only define what is not allowed and how you will be punished.

    That is why we want actual laws that work, that put gun offenders in jail for 30 years. Your laws mean that law abiding gun owners have to pay more, fill out more paperwork, and jump through more hoops. Criminals do not follow those laws which is why their gun crime rate is going up, as their criminals become more numerous and more violent.

    If you actually want to effect gun crime, you need to lock up the actual criminals who use guns to commit the crimes.....democrats in this country keep letting violent gun offenders back out of jail, they give them bail where they get out in a matter of days and commit murder, and the democrats fight to reduce prison sentences for gun crimes....

    You are wrong, you don't understand the issue....but thanks for being dumb.
     
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    I'm not surprised he got it illegally.

    There is a huge world wide black market out there for guns. If you have the money, you can get the gun.

    Gun laws neither solve a problem or protect against it.
     

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