Top Ten Ways That the Obama Adm. Will Extract Info From The Terrorist

[SFC Ollie]

Yup, according to Obama and his minions of don't make the terrorist feel bad people, sleep deprivation is a no no too.

After all, you can't make a terrorist uncomfortable.

Yeah, yeah, so what if thwarting a terrorist plot from the information provided could save thousands of american civilians lives. Just don't make the terrorist upset.

From an article about Obama complaining about interrogation techniques.

Barack Obama discloses Bush 'torture' methods including use of insects - Telegraph

"Sleep deprivation methods included shackling prisoners in a standing position for two or three days, and in one case for 180 hours.

The memos regularly stress how the methods would limit "severe mental pain or suffering" and so avoid crossing the line into torture.

Can't even force them to listen to Barry Manilow.

 

[SFC Ollie]

If you want information, you use the tools that work. If you just want to work off your frustration that the guy in front of you in an asswhipe, you use other tools.

There are two different issues here we are seeing. Do we want information, or do we want catharsis?

If the Prisoner has information which is time sensitive and could save innocent lives, then by all means he should be on the receiving end of harsh interrogation techniques. Nothing wrong with some face slaps and wall bouncing. Some of what We used to call wall to wall counseling. Sleep deprivation, loud music, and even the dreaded water board. (Used on most American college campuses exchanging beer for water)

This crotch bomber is a simple hey you, who was being used. He knows nothing that we need immediately.

 

[namvet]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

2) Take him on some of Obama's extravagant vacations at taxpayers' expense

3) Make him a permanent resident of the Lincoln bedroom

4) Give him the bailout money

5) Have him go with the Obamas to a play in NYC with his own private jet

6) Try to get Obama's other terrorist buddies to have a talk with him

7) Make him Co Pastor with Obama's mentor Rev Wright

8) Have him be the new CEO of GM

9) Take him on a golfing vacation to the carribean

10) Have Michelle Obama be his dominatix for a month

Halarious man you get the rep

 

[CMike]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

2) Take him on some of Obama's extravagant vacations at taxpayers' expense

3) Make him a permanent resident of the Lincoln bedroom

4) Give him the bailout money

5) Have him go with the Obamas to a play in NYC with his own private jet

6) Try to get Obama's other terrorist buddies to have a talk with him

7) Make him Co Pastor with Obama's mentor Rev Wright

8) Have him be the new CEO of GM

9) Take him on a golfing vacation to the carribean

10) Have Michelle Obama be his dominatix for a month

Halarious man you get the rep

Thank you, thank you.

Yanno...the roughing them up thwarted a terrorist attack of crashing a plane into an Los Angeles Building.

The three arch terrorists were not cooperating. When asked about terrorist attacks, they only said "soon, you will know".

Why do the liberals care so much about people who were going to crash a plane into a LA building?

Why don't they care more about the lives of the people on the plane, the people in the building, and what it would have done to the nation?

Why are these people such morons?

 

[namvet]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

2) Take him on some of Obama's extravagant vacations at taxpayers' expense

3) Make him a permanent resident of the Lincoln bedroom

4) Give him the bailout money

5) Have him go with the Obamas to a play in NYC with his own private jet

6) Try to get Obama's other terrorist buddies to have a talk with him

7) Make him Co Pastor with Obama's mentor Rev Wright

8) Have him be the new CEO of GM

9) Take him on a golfing vacation to the carribean

10) Have Michelle Obama be his dominatix for a month

Halarious man you get the rep

Thank you, thank you.

Yanno...the roughing them up thwarted a terrorist attack of crashing a plane into an Los Angeles Building.

The three arch terrorists were not cooperating. When asked about terrorist attacks, they only said "soon, you will know".

Why do the liberals care so much about people who were going to crash a plane into a LA building?

Why don't they care more about the lives of the people on the plane, the people in the building, and what it would have done to the nation?

Why are these people such morons?

liberals were test tube babies. no momma no pappa no uncle sam and no one gives a good god damned !!!!!

 

[Murf76]

take away his iPod

That was funny.

No, wait... we can improve on that. Give him a NEW iPod. ...with all Obama's speeches preprogrammed into it.
The guy won't know if he's a foreign enemy combatant or the Queen of England.

See, it's all about keepin' 'em confused.

 

[alan1]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

But only if he has successfully evaded paying US taxes.

 

[oreo]

I always invisioned a coffee & donut season--along with a sleep number bed--LOL

 

[California Girl]

Ya take them down to Starbucks and buy them a nice latte etc. Then they will suddenly realize that America is a wonderous country and tell us everything we need to know.

 

[oreo]

If you want information, you use the tools that work. If you just want to work off your frustration that the guy in front of you in an asswhipe, you use other tools.

There are two different issues here we are seeing. Do we want information, or do we want catharsis?

If the Prisoner has information which is time sensitive and could save innocent lives, then by all means he should be on the receiving end of harsh interrogation techniques. Nothing wrong with some face slaps and wall bouncing. Some of what We used to call wall to wall counseling. Sleep deprivation, loud music, and even the dreaded water board. (Used on most American college campuses exchanging beer for water)

This crotch bomber is a simple hey you, who was being used. He knows nothing that we need immediately.

Really--I guess you would know that--by HOW? How in the hell do YOU know that he had nothing to offer as far as other vital intelligence--that may save others?

 

[oreo]

Ya take them down to Starbucks and buy them a nice latte etc. Then they will suddenly realize that America is a wonderous country and tell us everything we need to know.

You know, come to think of it--they like strip clubs-don't they? Even though they keep their women in Burka's--.

So promise them a trip to Las Vegas--that would certainly get information out of them--

 

[oreo]

Bring out the Comfy Chair!

There are lots of ways of getting good information. It is not the case that the most sadistic methods get the best information

Gee, I wonder how much information Obama has gotten from the Gitmo Uighur terrorists he sent to Bermuda at American taxpayer expense? They live in luxury in a beachfront home, have new laptops, great food, sports equipment, all paid for by us.

He sent them there because he was concerned that they wouldn't be treated as well in China. That's right, the Chinese know they are terrorists and would have put them in prison for life or executed them.


I guess we should be thankful he didn't send them back to Yemen.

CNSNews.com - CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles


CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief




Khalid Sheik Mohammad, a top al Qaeda leader who divulged information -- after being waterboarded -- that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles. (CNSNews.com) - The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.

Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”

...After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other “enhanced techniques” that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)

... “It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has ‘credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent’; ‘substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack’; and ‘[o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.’”

...“In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques,” says the Justice Department memo. “Both KSM and Zubaydah had ‘expressed their belief that the general US population was ‘weak,’ lacked resilience, and would be unable to ‘do what was necessary’ to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals.’ Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, ‘Soon you will know.’”

After he was subjected to the “waterboard” technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles.

Now-now-now---you know darned good & well that we can't get anyone's head wet to save a few thousand lives. You'll get the libs on this board foaming at the mouth over this one---

Obama & Eric Holders new rule book for intelligence officers is very intimidating to anyone working in intelligence. One step out of line & against Eric Holders rule book--regarding the interrogation of a terrorist could land the intelligence officer in prison-:

 

[L.K.Eder]

If you want information, you use the tools that work. If you just want to work off your frustration that the guy in front of you in an asswhipe, you use other tools.

There are two different issues here we are seeing. Do we want information, or do we want catharsis?

If the Prisoner has information which is time sensitive and could save innocent lives, then by all means he should be on the receiving end of harsh interrogation techniques. Nothing wrong with some face slaps and wall bouncing. Some of what We used to call wall to wall counseling. Sleep deprivation, loud music, and even the dreaded water board. (Used on most American college campuses exchanging beer for water)

This crotch bomber is a simple hey you, who was being used. He knows nothing that we need immediately.

Really--I guess you would know that--by HOW? How in the hell do YOU know that he had nothing to offer as far as other vital intelligence--that may save others?

i read somewhere on the internet that people who use colored text have a tendancy towards psychopathic behavior.

 

[eots]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

2) Take him on some of Obama's extravagant vacations at taxpayers' expense

3) Make him a permanent resident of the Lincoln bedroom

4) Give him the bailout money

5) Have him go with the Obamas to a play in NYC with his own private jet

6) Try to get Obama's other terrorist buddies to have a talk with him

7) Make him Co Pastor with Obama's mentor Rev Wright

8) Have him be the new CEO of GM

9) Take him on a golfing vacation to the carribean

10) Have Michelle Obama be his dominatix for a month

Let's review the 'intense' interrogation methods used by the oh-so-merciless Bush Administration.

Conditions must have been really, really tough...but:

"Is America the only country in the world that could run a prison camp where prisoners gain weight? Between April 2002 and March 2003, the Joint Task Force returned to Afghanistan 19 of the approximately 664 men (from 42 countries) who have been held in the detention camps at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay. Upon leaving, it has been reported, each man received two parting gifts: a brand new copy of the Koran as well as a new pair of jeans. Not the act of generosity that it might first appear, the jeans, at least, turned out to be a necessity. During their stay (14-months on average), the detainees (nearly all of them) had gained an average of 13 pounds.
Weight gain among prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. - By Manny Howard - Slate Magazine

But, according to the Washington Post, the weight gain was more like 20 pound!

"The first fact notes that the inmates include some truly nasty terrorist trainers and bombmakers. The second says "More money is spent on meals for detainees than" on U.S. troops stationed there. "The average weight gain per detainee is 20 pounds."
Al Kamen - 10 Things to Know About Guantanamo - washingtonpost.com

Those mean, mean Bushies!

well hell that is more than makes up for being illegally imprisoned and years of your life being taken from without due process...

 

[California Girl]

Or..... we could force them to watch endless hours of reality tv.

 

[namvet]

how bout some beers and a BLT ????

 

[Claudette]

Treating terrorists badly in order to get information that good thwart further terrorist attacks is considered bad form by the liberals.

So here are some ways the Obama Administration will probably use to get information from the captured terrorist who set off the bomb on the NWA airplane.

1) Make him part of the Obama cabinet

2) Take him on some of Obama's extravagant vacations at taxpayers' expense

3) Make him a permanent resident of the Lincoln bedroom

4) Give him the bailout money

5) Have him go with the Obamas to a play in NYC with his own private jet

6) Try to get Obama's other terrorist buddies to have a talk with him

7) Make him Co Pastor with Obama's mentor Rev Wright

8) Have him be the new CEO of GM

9) Take him on a golfing vacation to the carribean

10) Have Michelle Obama be his dominatix for a month

Let's review the 'intense' interrogation methods used by the oh-so-merciless Bush Administration.

Conditions must have been really, really tough...but:

"Is America the only country in the world that could run a prison camp where prisoners gain weight? Between April 2002 and March 2003, the Joint Task Force returned to Afghanistan 19 of the approximately 664 men (from 42 countries) who have been held in the detention camps at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay. Upon leaving, it has been reported, each man received two parting gifts: a brand new copy of the Koran as well as a new pair of jeans. Not the act of generosity that it might first appear, the jeans, at least, turned out to be a necessity. During their stay (14-months on average), the detainees (nearly all of them) had gained an average of 13 pounds.
Weight gain among prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. - By Manny Howard - Slate Magazine

But, according to the Washington Post, the weight gain was more like 20 pound!

"The first fact notes that the inmates include some truly nasty terrorist trainers and bombmakers. The second says "More money is spent on meals for detainees than" on U.S. troops stationed there. "The average weight gain per detainee is 20 pounds."
Al Kamen - 10 Things to Know About Guantanamo - washingtonpost.com

Those mean, mean Bushies!

well hell that is more than makes up for being illegally imprisoned and years of your life being taken from without due process...

Illegally imprisoned???? Hmmmm From all I've read about these terrorists, the majority of them were picked up on BATTLEFIELDS trying to kill American troops. They are ENEMY COMBATANTS and are ENTITLED to NOTHING. Not the Geneva Convention and certainly not the rights of a criminal in the US court system.

Bush made the mistake of releasing some of these dirtbags and 1 out of 5 went right back to trying to kill us. OL'BO was going to do the same thing until that underware asshole tried to blow up a plane full of passengers. He has changed his mind. I guess he can learn. Mayby they should all be executed instead of being taken prisoner. That sure would solve a lot of problems and golly gee, they could close Gitmo.

 

[CMike]

Exactly right.

The libs would have us believe that they just happen to be on the battlefields with RPGs trying to blow up american soldiers because they are really rehearsing for hollywood.

They are not enemy combatants, they are unlawful combatants, and are indeed entitled to nothing.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Or..... we could force them to watch endless hours of reality tv.

Without a remote during commercials breaks.

 

[CMike]

Al Qaida members have no right to be treated as POWs either. They are unlawful combatants and have no rights.

Unlawful combatant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, 12 August 1949 (GCIII) of 1949 defines the requirements for a captive to be eligible for treatment as a POW. A lawful combatant is a person who commits belligerent acts, and, when captured, is treated as a POW. An unlawful combatant is someone who commits belligerent acts but does not qualify for POW status under GCIII Articles 4 and 5.

Article 4
A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:

1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.
2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions:
(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) That of carrying arms openly;
(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.

4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model.
5. Members of crews [of civil ships and aircraft], who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.

6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war. B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention:
1. Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country...
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