Top military/police trainer, Lt Col Grossman: This (shootings) is just the beginning

[hazlnut]

Shall we ban gay ass sex,

Don't worry, no one is taking that away from you. Thanks to SCOTUS.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We can blame LIBERALISM for turning our society into a senseless blood thirsty piece of crap. No one is fucking taking my guns away with this bull shit going on...I'll tell you that much!

It was ignorant pig shit like you that dragged us down during W.

You tried to keep us down with you pathetic TeaBag revolt.

You failed.

America Won.

Go back to westboro, hemorrhoid.

Go to Cuba or some islamic country. You love control? Well, you can find it there.

 

[Warrior102]

His training materal is legendary in the police community, and West Point obviously values his ideas as they have him on staff. He is an expert in the field of violence in combat and domestic incidents.

I think he's a fucking idiot.

 

[SniperFire]

He's speaking for us. The intelligent and thoughtful majority.

Shit like you is being wiped off our shoes as we move forward.

FORWARD.

17K die of AIDs in the USA each year.

Shall we ban gay ass sex, Hitler Youth?

To get AIDS from gay sex, one must volunteer to have gay sex.

What did the 20 dead kids and 6 heroic teachers volunteer for that ended in their deaths?

Im all for personal responsibility. Thats how one ends up NOT having AIDS.

But when individuals FAIL to be responsible, and attack society, it is the responsibility of the WHOLE OF INDIVIDUALS...aka, the nation, state, city....to ACT and stop the damage, and do our best to prevent it.




Do you have ANYTHING concrete or valuable to add to this conversation?

Distinction without a difference. A person volunteers to drink a super sized sugary drink in New York City, but you ban that.

How far do you Hitler Youth go in what you ban for the greater good?

 

[Warrior102]

Shall we ban gay ass sex,

Don't worry, no one is taking that away from you. Thanks to SCOTUS.

Speaking of taking it up the ass, how ya doing, pole smoker,

 

[hazlnut]

progressive totalitarian?

I've always wondered what type of person pisses into the wind.

Now I know.

You realize that's a contradiction of terms.

Go ahead, wipe the piss off your face.

 

[SniperFire]

Shall we ban gay ass sex,

Don't worry, no one is taking that away from you. Thanks to SCOTUS.

Why not answer the question?

 

[Katzndogz]

Lt. Col Grossman was just on the Fox Sunday show, he is a top psychologist at West Point, the author of the legendary combat training book "On Killing", and one of the leading experts/trainers in the military/police community.

He says in a chilling interview that he has predicted this rise in domestic violence for years, and that these school shootings are just the "beginning" of the evil and horror that is coming inside our borders. He says the generations we have raised recently have been desensitized to killing, and literally trained and programmed to do it through violent video games. Like many of the great sports coaches of history who used visualization for athletes, the visualization practice is common in combat training, and video games train just that action, the Lt. Col says. Should we be that shocked? Is a mass shooting/suicide much different from a Middle East suicide bomber? No, its not. It happens worldwide. Now we're no different.

We are a free country. Companies like Microsoft are free to make millions and billions of dollars off video games. We are free to own guns. We are free to make violent movies. Free to play paintball, airsoft, etc, training in combat imagery, with everything except actual death.

We are free to grow our technology, and we have become so disconnected from person-to-person interaction. Kids spend more time "talking" through text and tweets than in person. XBox spends as much time raising a kid as two working parents do.


And....add to that our recent push to slash budgets for mental health, public schools and police. We rarely have access to mental health hospitals anymore. Schools are hand-tied to discipline kids. Police depts have little to no funding for training or staffing schools with armed cops.

As our country grows more violent, more desensitized to violence, less connected to personal relationships, less religious..........we are also dismantling the structures in place that help those who suffer from mental illness, and who protect us from domestic threats.

We are going in opposite directions on both fronts.

Lt. Col. Grossman is right. This is just the beginning. Its gonna get far worse.

We can grow up, find solutions, fund solutions, PRAY, and take it serious..........or, we can go about our lives, and get ready to be outraged after the next one and wonder why we still haven't done shit to try to change the direction we're going.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/bulletproof-mind

I saw that interview. No it isn't video games. It isn't being desentitized to violence. We have removed the internal controls that come with religion, dismantled the structures that identified and removed the insane from normal people asking instead what's normal? We have given the insane tools to justify their insanity.

Of course it's going to get worse. We now have the third generation since the drug fueled 60s growing up in a secular culture where they are all little Gods, reliant on some substance to make them feel good. We have a created right to happiness of whatever form the individual chooses for himself no matter the cost to others.

This is an entire culture of depravity. It takes many forms. This is one of them.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Speak for yourself, lib weenie.

Very mature. You obviously wont be part of the solution.

Personal responsibility is lost on scum such as yourself.

ya but Snip don't you agree the abortion issue as desensitized society to the sanctity of life"

 

[hazlnut]

Shall we ban gay ass sex,

Don't worry, no one is taking that away from you. Thanks to SCOTUS.

Speaking of taking it up the ass, how ya doing, pole smoker,

Make up your mind, do you want my ass or my pole?

 

[bucs90]

Personal responsibility is lost on scum such as yourself.

Really? We have a national responsibility to stop this shit. Those 6 and 7 year olds were not responsible enough to fight back. Those heroic teachers died to protect them.

What is OUR nation doing to help curb this trend of mass shootings? This isnt a personal responsibility issue. That mom FAILED to secure her two pistols and assault rifles, both of which I proudly own myself.

So when others fail in their personal responsibility, what are WE gonna do to protect kids afterwards?

You seem to offer no real ideas.

Gay ass fucking spread 80% of the AIDS cases, which kills 17K a year.

How far does our 'we' responsibly to stop this shit go, progressive totalitarian?

Well, we've done it by awareness programs.
We've funded the medical community to treat it, to where it is now more of a chronic condition than death sentence, miraculous strives in medicine.

I think "we" have done a pretty good job of containing and treating AIDS.


I love the name calling. I cant believe people who are asking for a simple talk about how to fix this problem....are being met with ideological and political responses. Amazing.

And how YOU would try to equate two consenting gay men giving each other AIDS...as somehow a moral equivalent to a man walking into a school and murdering 20 children and 6 teachers. If you dont see the difference, well, no reason talking with you.

 

[SniperFire]

Really? We have a national responsibility to stop this shit. Those 6 and 7 year olds were not responsible enough to fight back. Those heroic teachers died to protect them.

What is OUR nation doing to help curb this trend of mass shootings? This isnt a personal responsibility issue. That mom FAILED to secure her two pistols and assault rifles, both of which I proudly own myself.

So when others fail in their personal responsibility, what are WE gonna do to protect kids afterwards?

You seem to offer no real ideas.

Gay ass fucking spread 80% of the AIDS cases, which kills 17K a year.

How far does our 'we' responsibly to stop this shit go, progressive totalitarian?

Well, we've done it by awareness programs.
We've funded the medical community to treat it, to where it is now more of a chronic condition than death sentence, miraculous strives in medicine.

I think "we" have done a pretty good job of containing and treating AIDS.


I love the name calling. I cant believe people who are asking for a simple talk about how to fix this problem....are being met with ideological and political responses. Amazing.

And how YOU would try to equate two consenting gay men giving each other AIDS...as somehow a moral equivalent to a man walking into a school and murdering 20 children and 6 teachers. If you dont see the difference, well, no reason talking with you.

We have had gun safety awareness campaigns as well.

Fail.

 

[bucs90]

Lt. Col Grossman was just on the Fox Sunday show, he is a top psychologist at West Point, the author of the legendary combat training book "On Killing", and one of the leading experts/trainers in the military/police community.

He says in a chilling interview that he has predicted this rise in domestic violence for years, and that these school shootings are just the "beginning" of the evil and horror that is coming inside our borders. He says the generations we have raised recently have been desensitized to killing, and literally trained and programmed to do it through violent video games. Like many of the great sports coaches of history who used visualization for athletes, the visualization practice is common in combat training, and video games train just that action, the Lt. Col says. Should we be that shocked? Is a mass shooting/suicide much different from a Middle East suicide bomber? No, its not. It happens worldwide. Now we're no different.

We are a free country. Companies like Microsoft are free to make millions and billions of dollars off video games. We are free to own guns. We are free to make violent movies. Free to play paintball, airsoft, etc, training in combat imagery, with everything except actual death.

We are free to grow our technology, and we have become so disconnected from person-to-person interaction. Kids spend more time "talking" through text and tweets than in person. XBox spends as much time raising a kid as two working parents do.


And....add to that our recent push to slash budgets for mental health, public schools and police. We rarely have access to mental health hospitals anymore. Schools are hand-tied to discipline kids. Police depts have little to no funding for training or staffing schools with armed cops.

As our country grows more violent, more desensitized to violence, less connected to personal relationships, less religious..........we are also dismantling the structures in place that help those who suffer from mental illness, and who protect us from domestic threats.

We are going in opposite directions on both fronts.

Lt. Col. Grossman is right. This is just the beginning. Its gonna get far worse.

We can grow up, find solutions, fund solutions, PRAY, and take it serious..........or, we can go about our lives, and get ready to be outraged after the next one and wonder why we still haven't done shit to try to change the direction we're going.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/bulletproof-mind

I saw that interview. No it isn't video games. It isn't being desentitized to violence. We have removed the internal controls that come with religion, dismantled the structures that identified and removed the insane from normal people asking instead what's normal? We have given the insane tools to justify their insanity.

Of course it's going to get worse. We now have the third generation since the drug fueled 60s growing up in a secular culture where they are all little Gods, reliant on some substance to make them feel good. We have a created right to happiness of whatever form the individual chooses for himself no matter the cost to others.

This is an entire culture of depravity. It takes many forms. This is one of them.

Very true. Taking God out of schools is a huge mistake. I blame lawyers for that. This pandora's box of violence is kinda like unlocking a real lock, it takes several factors in the combination. Lack of God, cultural violence, mental illness, drugs, isolation from society.

 

[SniperFire]

See, bucs, it is really a matter of God granted personal liberty and freedoms, and which of those you totalitarian progressives seek to take away.

Isn't it?

 

[hazlnut]

Shall we ban gay ass sex,

Don't worry, no one is taking that away from you. Thanks to SCOTUS.

Why not answer the question?

The shit flowing from your mouth is not worth a response.

You are a repulsive person, the embodiment of everything wrong with this county.

Hateful. Full of fear. Scared of your own shadow.

You hide in your basement and spew your pointless questions.

 

[bucs90]

Gay ass fucking spread 80% of the AIDS cases, which kills 17K a year.

How far does our 'we' responsibly to stop this shit go, progressive totalitarian?

Well, we've done it by awareness programs.
We've funded the medical community to treat it, to where it is now more of a chronic condition than death sentence, miraculous strives in medicine.

I think "we" have done a pretty good job of containing and treating AIDS.


I love the name calling. I cant believe people who are asking for a simple talk about how to fix this problem....are being met with ideological and political responses. Amazing.

And how YOU would try to equate two consenting gay men giving each other AIDS...as somehow a moral equivalent to a man walking into a school and murdering 20 children and 6 teachers. If you dont see the difference, well, no reason talking with you.

We have had gun safety awareness campaigns as well.

Fail.

And they work.

You are truly a piece of work. You are so blinded by ideology and hate, you cant even have a logical discussion.

I have not suggested banning guns. That is impossible. It would require martial law and a likely mini civil war.

You are seriously just too ideological to have a real input on this conversation.

 

[Seawytch]

I thought god was omnipotent? Some god that can't get past a few lawyers...

God hasn't been "kicked out of schools" people. Ya'll are still free to pray wherever and whenever you want. You can carry your bible around like Linus's blanket ifn you want. You just can't preach to MY kids about YOUR god. Oh the horrors.

 

[The Rabbi]

It is easier to buy a gun than to get help for a mental health issue. That is a FACT.

Because you've done both?

I haven't seen any credible evidence the incidence in shootings has gone up. We have had school shootings in this country probably since the 1920s.

 

[SniperFire]

Well, we've done it by awareness programs.
We've funded the medical community to treat it, to where it is now more of a chronic condition than death sentence, miraculous strives in medicine.

I think "we" have done a pretty good job of containing and treating AIDS.


I love the name calling. I cant believe people who are asking for a simple talk about how to fix this problem....are being met with ideological and political responses. Amazing.

And how YOU would try to equate two consenting gay men giving each other AIDS...as somehow a moral equivalent to a man walking into a school and murdering 20 children and 6 teachers. If you dont see the difference, well, no reason talking with you.

We have had gun safety awareness campaigns as well.

Fail.

And they work.

You are truly a piece of work. You are so blinded by ideology and hate, you cant even have a logical discussion.

I have not suggested banning guns. That is impossible. It would require martial law and a likely mini civil war.

You are seriously just too ideological to have a real input on this conversation.

You are incapable of a logical discussion.

Shall we ban super sized sugary drinks because it eventually kills people?

 

[bucs90]

See, bucs, it is really a matter of God granted personal liberty and freedoms, and which of those you totalitarian progressives seek to take away.

Isn't it?

Wow. You are so smug and label me so incorrectly.

You know...there was a time when God given rights included the right to own slaves and beat wives, right?

See how ideological insanity can twist the argument?


So, all the ideological shit aside, what ideas do YOU have to curb this trend?

OR....are you just gonna say it was the "personal responsibility" of the children and teachers to deal with it?

Or freedom simply means tolerating stuff like this happening once in a while?

Your answer should be classic.