Top 10 American Entertainment Icons

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    Selected by Entertainment Tonight:

    10. Martha Stewart
    9. Lucille Ball
    8. Michael Jackson
    7. Ray Charles
    6. Dick Clark
    5. Elvis Presley
    4. Johnny Carson
    3. Frank Sinatra
    2. Oprah Winfrey
    1. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
     
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    Martha Stewart? What about Clint Eastwood or John Wayne? What about Martin Scorcese?

    Also, how is Jacqueline Kennedy an American entertainment icon? If she's on there, surely her husband should be, too.
     
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    You'll have to ask Entertainment Tonight. Personally, I did not agree with the middle placement of Elvis Presley on the list. After all, he was responsible for rock & roll. I thought he should have been placed closer to the beginning of the list, as his contribution to music changed music world-wide.
     
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    Yeah I guess I shouldn't worry too much about a list compiled by ET.:)
     
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    Just depends upon how much credence you place in Entertainment Tonight, which compiled the list. I don't know the criteria they used for making their selections. Some of their picks I agree with (Lucille Ball, Johnny Carson, Dick Clark, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Michael Jackson, Oprah Winfrey). I would question the placement of Ray Charles, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and Martha Stewart in the same category with the others, who, I feel, made great contributions to their particular genres in entertainment.
     
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    Ray Charles is great, but I think his recent death and the movie are making people a little over-praising of his work. Same thing happened when Johnny Cash died, I remember Snoop Dogg accepting some award and giving Johnny Cash a big shout-out. I love Johnny Cash and all, but I doubt Snoop listened to him too much.
     
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    You'd be surprised. There are a number of rappers and rap producers with broad musical tastes, able to enjoy a wide array of music just as much as the next person. Its not where you're from, its where you're at (mentally and emotionally). A lot of Johnny Cash's music, especially his lyrics, resonate well with many rappers. Tales of death, suffering and the long, hard road of life can be found as much in Johnny Cash's music as in rap music.

    Ray Charles revolutionized R&B music (and black music) in a way no one else has or will. What other entertainer would follow up a successful R&B album with a country and western one? What other entertainer at the time could get the rights to his own masters (something most artists still don't have today, including some of the biggest names in the biz)? What other entertainer could do all this while addicted to drugs and blind? What other entertainer thought to mold gospel and R&B music? Last but not least, this entertainer did it while being a black man in a time when race was a severe drawback to one's chances at success in the world. And he stood up for America to live up to its creed of justice for all and equality of human beings. And he harbored little ill will towards those who had discriminated against him for so long in the 50's, 60's & early 70's.
     
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    You made a good case for Ray Charles' being on the list, Nato. Maybe that is how Entertainment Tonight saw his career as well.
     
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    Or her brother-in-law, at the very least.

    That guy's been splitting my sides ever since Chappaquiddick!
     
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    Martha Stewart, wtf? Maybe one of the most notorious icons!

    The idea that Martha or even Oprah are even on the same level as Elvis Presley is ludicrous. Sure, they're rich, but not especially talented or famous in a timeless way.

    Here's a personal opinion based on real American history, from a global perspective on what constitutes American entertainment icons, given the peaks and valleys throughout their lifetimes:

    10. Mickey Mouse
    9. Ronald Reagan (famous for what he did after entertainment)
    8. Tom Cruise
    7. Charlie Chaplain
    6. Michael Jackson
    5. Marilyn Monroe
    4. Frank Sinatra
    3. Bob Hope
    2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    1. Elvis Presley


    Then again, this kind of analysis is open to personal introspection... :cof:
     

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