Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

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Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really evil doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.
 
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Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.
 
Fraid not Revisionista. Nazis are off-the-scale right, always were, period, have a nice weekend, the end.

But it's SOOOOO cute the way you're so desperate to rewrite the history books three-quarters of a century on, all because you don't have the intellect to figure out that the Association Fallacy that you think would taint your side of the spectrum -- IS a fallacy anyway. Which means all of this is completely for naught.

But do go on, this is MOST interesting
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--- and obviously we need something pointless to take up bandwidth since there's so much available.
 
conflating gun control with a national confiscation of all guns?

intellectual dishonesty. and ignorance on a Trumpian scale

congratulations, you win the booby prize

:banana2:
 
Socialists and nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

Can you identify the equivalent views held by Nazis and Liberals on the social issues?
gun control...

Wrong. The Nazis didn't take away all guns.

University of Chicago law professor Bernard Harcourt explored this myth in depth in a 2004 article published in the Fordham Law Review. As it turns out, the Weimar Republic, the German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. After its defeat in World War I, and agreeing to the harsh surrender terms laid out in the Treaty of Versailles, the German legislature in 1919 passed a law that effectively banned all private firearm possession, leading the government to confiscate guns already in circulation. In 1928, the Reichstag relaxed the regulation a bit, but put in place a strict registration regime that required citizens to acquire separate permits to own guns, sell them or carry them.


The 1938 law signed by Hitler that LaPierre mentions in his book basically does the opposite of what he says it did. “The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition,” Harcourt wrote. Meanwhile, many more categories of people, including Nazi party members, were exempted from gun ownership regulations altogether, while the legal age of purchase was lowered from 20 to 18, and permit lengths were extended from one year to three years.

The law did prohibit Jews and other persecuted classes from owning guns, but this should not be an indictment of gun control in general. Does the fact that Nazis forced Jews into horrendous ghettos indict urban planning? Should we eliminate all police officers because the Nazis used police officers to oppress and kill the Jews? What about public works — Hitler loved public works projects? Of course not. These are merely implements that can be used for good or ill, much as gun advocates like to argue about guns themselves. If guns don’t kill people, then neither does gun control cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).

The Hitler gun control lie
 
Afraid not. The Nazis are off-the-scale right, always were, period, have a nice weekend, the end.

Not this one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Conservatives.

youse guys are playing with semen-antics

European Socialists and American Nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

...
 
conflating gun control with a national confiscation of all guns?

intellectual dishonesty. and ignorance on a Trumpian scale

congratulations, you win the booby prize

:banana2:
 
Afraid not. The Nazis are off-the-scale right, always were, period, have a nice weekend, the end.

Not this one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Conservatives.

youse guys are playing with semen-antics

European Socialists and American Nazis are incestuous soulmates... really two sides of the same coin.

...
 
conflating gun control with a national confiscation of all guns?

intellectual dishonesty. and ignorance on a Trumpian scale

congratulations, you win the booby prize

:banana2:
 
frivolous gun laws have never been the answer to stopping violent behavior... The Nazis tried that how did that work out for them?
 
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No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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No matter how many times you post the lie that the Nazis were not right wing extremists, you can't make it true.

Fascists are right wing extremists, racist, xenophobic and authoritarian. All were, always will be.




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