To those who still have their innocence

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  1. Misaki
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    The world is supposed to end in two days. So let's keep this short.

    The reason for the two worst massacres in the United States this year is because people within the established system, including the wealthy and middle class, were not willing to support working less as the solution to unemployment.
    End Hunger, Poverty, and War through Economic Innovation - The Petition Site

    How does killing children help to convince people to work less, you ask? The answer can be found within the President's speech after the Sandy Hook shooting: he says that we should have sympathy for the parents of the survivors because "they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early." Too many adults think that nothing can change, and so we shouldn't even try. And so children and adults continue to die senselessly, both in the US and in other countries as a result of war and starvation.

    Five days before the Sandy Hook shooting, this was posted on the OWS site, explaining why James Holmes has not described the reason for his attack in Aurora:
    Forum Post: The US is #1, including rampage killings among developed countries | OccupyWallSt.org
    (As well as here: http://www.usmessageboard.com/clean...mpage-killings-among-developed-countries.html)

    Three days later, Adam Lanza attempted to purchase a rifle from a sporting goods store. Since he destroyed his computer hard drive before the attack it is unlikely the authorities would have discovered his motives on their own. Anyone who does not support working less as the solution to unemployment is accepting the fact that more children will be killed, maybe their own children, but that isn't even important because we could prevent that simply by banning private gun ownership as other countries do.

    This doesn't mean we are immoral. It just means that our morality is one where we value our lives as little as we do those of other people, and that trying to kill anyone who does not support an end to these problems is a moral thing to do.

    We don't need to accept this situation. Obviously, mainstream media outlets are not going to carry something like this, so don't be surprised if where you read it is not a site you normally visit. The apathy of adults towards this solution is a direct cause of people you care about possibly being killed, or even people you don't know.

    We can't control what people do. But we can make sure they have the information necessary to make proper decisions.


    The rest is up to you.
     
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    I don't think Adam Lanza went on a shooting spree because he was hungry or poor.

    Your premise is faulty btw. There are no classes. The United States of America was a Republic designed to be a classless society. Class is a political construct that is used in an attempt to divide people so that they won't see the harm of giving up more of their liberty to "punish" their fellow citizens.

    It's also insulting to pretend as though only one group or class of people works. Everyone in the United States who earns money works. They work to different degrees and in different ways. Some work through becoming employees. Some work for themselves. Some build businesses to create income. Some invest.

    Im all for ministering to the hungry, the poor, and afflicted. But it seems dishonest to tie them to this shooting or any other. The only area that seems at all applicable would be if you are ministering to the mental health needs of others. But that isn't what you are talking about here.

    Feel free to correct me if I have anything wrong about what you've posted.
     
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    Correct. He was living in a $1.5 million house with his mother, who was getting $240k a year from Peter Lanza.

    During the first few decades of the US, the common person didn't vote for the President, nor did they vote for people in the electoral college. It was basically decided by the well-off, educated people.


    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/783/697/872/tell-the-1-how-they-can-help-the-economy/


    If only the hungry and poor had problems, Adam Lanza wouldn't have felt the need to carry out the attack. He did it for everyone, including the rich.
     
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    Wonder if Dark Knight Rises could be the motive?...

    Sandy Hook, Dark Knight Rises, Aurora, Skull & Bones
    Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - The confirmed discovery that at 1hr:58 of the Dark Knight Rises, Commissioner Gordon is pointing to the words "Sandy Hook" on a map of the Gotham area has caused a storm of interest.


    See also:

    Sandy Hook Labeled "Strike Zone" In Dark Knight Rises
    Some idle corners of the Internet are chattering about a number of coincidences that would appear to connect Dark Knight Rises with America's two most recent horrifying gun massacres.
     

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