To those saying flipping burgers or dunking fries deserves 15.00 per hour...

[Ray From Cleveland]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

 

[Papageorgio]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

He thinks in binary, if your a Democrat, you are this, if you are a Republican, you are this. No variance, no in between. He can’t wrap his mind around anything else.

Also Obama was our President, I did not care for him, I didn’t like his policies and he was arrogant but I respect the office and I also respect the process that made him President and for that reason I avoid calling him names. Just food for thought.

 

[beagle9]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

. Ray, your employer dropped your coverage after the ACA got started ?? Wow, do you work for a crap company or something ? Sounds like it just used the excuse of the ACA to do what it wanted to do anyway.

 

[beagle9]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

He thinks in binary, if your a Democrat, you are this, if you are a Republican, you are this. No variance, no in between. He can’t wrap his mind around anything else.

Also Obama was our President, I did not care for him, I didn’t like his policies and he was arrogant but I respect the office and I also respect the process that made him President and for that reason I avoid calling him names. Just food for thought.

. Well then you ought to be furious with the Demon-crats for the language they have used on Trump and his family. No American deserves that none, so you go get'em Ray.

 

[Papageorgio]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

He thinks in binary, if your a Democrat, you are this, if you are a Republican, you are this. No variance, no in between. He can’t wrap his mind around anything else.

Also Obama was our President, I did not care for him, I didn’t like his policies and he was arrogant but I respect the office and I also respect the process that made him President and for that reason I avoid calling him names. Just food for thought.

. Well then you ought to furious with the Demon-crats for the language they have used on Trump and his family. No American deserves that none, so you go get'em Ray.

I am furious, it is disrespectful and disgusting, I have said so. I realize that those Democrats aren’t worth listening to because they are angry hypocritical fools. I like Ray and he is a positive person, why go negative and roll in the shit with the Democrats when you can take the high road. Joe is a perfect example of a hypocritical democrat who uses race and stereotyping to promote his BS. To me we are above that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

$14.50 an hour? Where did you create that bullshit from?

Your own posts where you said that's what you made and if they raised the Min Wage to $15.00, they'd have to raise yours, too.

You just blew him up, nice job Ray! He has nothing but hate and jealousy over those that have it better than he.

Please, buddy. Ray himself admitted he makes shit wages and can't get health insurance...

But he gets to look down on black people, so he's happy.

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

. Ray, your employer dropped your coverage after the ACA got started ?? Wow, do you work for a crap company or something ? Sounds like it just used the excuse of the ACA to do what it wanted to do anyway.

I have bad news for ya, and that is no employer wants to deal with healthcare coverage, it's just that before Commie Care, they had to, otherwise they would not have nearly the selection of applicants (if any) that they would ordinarily have.

That's not to say my company isn't responsible for the problem, they are, but only partly responsible. If not for Commie Care, my employer would have had to deal with the problem in a different way.

So I applied at other places, but like my employer, they too dropped coverage, so it's not just my employer alone. It's not worth me taking a day off of work to apply if they don't provide coverage, so I ask ahead of time. But when the run my license number (which you have to include when inquiring about a driving job) and they find out I'm 57, they don't write back because the cost it would take to cover me is probably over twice as much as a much younger employee in spite of my impeccable driving record and years of experience.

So I'm pretty much screwed at this point because Commie Care wants over 25% of my net pay for a policy that has a 7K out of pocket, 7K deductible, no prescriptions, no dental, and a $50.00 office copay. And that's what they quoted me last year. I'm sure this year is much worse.

Now had this happened 20 or 30 years ago, I could probably find another job. But even if I did, what would stop them from dropping coverage down the road?

 

[Humorme]

You are much better at it than I. AND YOU INITIATE IT!!!

Again prove it!


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Anybody can read this thread for themselves. The best proof is that you have to make an insult in order to answer my posts that don't even mention you.

Can’t prove it, okay then.


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If you can't read the thread, then leave me alone. Don't you think it's time to put the bullshit aside and allow the thread to progress?

I've asked your dumb ass to take the personal stuff to PM. WTF dude? Are you so infantile that you cannot understand English?

This is not about your fragile ego; this is about people who work and don't get paid a realistic wage. I know. You get a grand a month for a mental disability and don't have to think about such things.

... Moving right along. Unless the American people can get their heads out of their rear ends, the Democrats will retake the White House and at least one branch of Congress and end up supporting Bernie Sanders style socialism.

Again, you make accusations, then you need to back it up, I am not going to let you make up crap without calling you out. I don’t use PM, grow up and deal with it. If you can’t tell me in the open, then you don’t need to say it at all. Got it, good.

...Moving right along. I’d support Sanders over Trump. The GOP needs to either listen to their constituents or they will lose control in the House or the Senate in 2019. The GOP was lucky the Democrats ran Clinton, any other candidate would have beat Trump.

I already have proven the point. Any jackass with an IQ the size of their shoe can read this thread and see you are nothing more than a childish troll that likes to piss people off but is too chickenshit to call them out in PM and face them.

You are a keyboard commando that has a big ego and damn little for brains. Can I prove it? You bet. You want to grandstand and call people names; you like to make idiotic allegations; you want all the political jockeying to be public. You like to engage in what, if done in face to face encounters, is called "fighting words" where I come from.

"A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct when such person commits any of the following:

...Without provocation, uses to or of another person in such other person's presence, opprobrious or abusive words which by their very utterance tend to incite to an immediate breach of the peace, that is to say, words which as a matter of common knowledge and under ordinary circumstances will, when used to or of another person in such other person's presence, naturally tend to provoke violent resentment, that is, words commonly called "fighting words"...

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 11 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY :: ARTICLE 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER :: § 16-11-39 - Disorderly conduct

YOU were the one who began engaging me with words that would rise to such a level. Yet, you basically called me out and when I told you to take it to PM where you could tell me to name the time and the place, your spineless, gutless ass backed down. You like that you can pretend to be an Internet tough guy; you like that that you can do what amounts to criminal activity anonymously, but never get called on it.

You're a fucking bully that don't have any brains, no guts, and no scruples. So, if you want to reply to this and keep this going, I'll simply cut and paste this portion of my response. You and I have nothing left to talk about. Badgering me over personal crap is a violation of the TOS as you like to yap about. Let me quote them for you:

"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws."

Your specific threat in your recent post is: "I am not going to let you make up crap without calling you out."

Okay. You've called me out. You got your response. It's time to put up or STFU. If you want to take it further, go to PM. I'm not engaging in pissing matches in order to post here. That is my word to you.

AND BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND

It's a sad commentary that the general public has this great tool by which we could have productive discussions and bounce ideas off each other, maybe coming up with a solution to the political issues that plague us, but we don't do that.

Thomas Jefferson stated:

“A wise and frugal government… shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”

First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

The reality is that today we have excessively high taxes, poverty level wages, a deficit that cannot realistically be paid off and all the current economic theories remain just that: theory. I say we experiment so as not to bankrupt the country and see what works and if it is a combination wherein the employer gets to decide whether they want to hire whomever they choose and pay what they want and pay the higher taxes OR pay above poverty level, hire an all American staff and pay much lower taxes, go with it.

 

[JoeB131]

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

he's probably overpaid at $14.50 an hour...

Yes, I do look down on stupid white trash who've let themselves be fooled like he has.

 

[JoeB131]

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

Of course it didn't. Your employer dropped your insurance because he's a sucky businessman. And you haven't gotten a better job because you are a sucky employee.

 

[JoeB131]

I have bad news for ya, and that is no employer wants to deal with healthcare coverage, it's just that before Commie Care, they had to, otherwise they would not have nearly the selection of applicants (if any) that they would ordinarily have.

That's not to say my company isn't responsible for the problem, they are, but only partly responsible. If not for Commie Care, my employer would have had to deal with the problem in a different way.

Bullshit. most companies still offer insurance and pretty good insurance. Last job hunt I was on, every last company I talked to offered insurance.

 

[Mr Natural]

I have bad news for ya, and that is no employer wants to deal with healthcare coverage, it's just that before Commie Care, they had to, otherwise they would not have nearly the selection of applicants (if any) that they would ordinarily have.

That's not to say my company isn't responsible for the problem, they are, but only partly responsible. If not for Commie Care, my employer would have had to deal with the problem in a different way.

Bullshit. most companies still offer insurance and pretty good insurance. Last job hunt I was on, every last company I talked to offered insurance.

Back in my day, they not only offered it but paid for it as well.

 

[JoeB131]

Back in my day, they not only offered it but paid for it as well.

And here's part of the problem guys like Ray don't get. Health Insurance has been spiralling out of control in cost for decades, which is why employers have either been dropping it or offering plans that were laughable.

ObamaCare wasn't the cause of that, and in some ways slowed down the costs of increase.

The thing is, when we are going toe to toe with Japan and Germany, which have universal systems (Japan is single payer Germany has universal coverage) they are able to keep their costs down and make their products more competitive. They can invest more into engineering because they aren't spending money on health care.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If we could raise a dollar per insult to resolve the low wage issue, we could solve this issue off this thread's insults alone.

Change your tampon sparky.

No one in this thread has tossed out nearly as many insults as you. You wanted the gloves off, until you took one on the chin.

 

[Humorme]

If we could raise a dollar per insult to resolve the low wage issue, we could solve this issue off this thread's insults alone.

Change your tampon sparky.

No one in this thread has tossed out nearly as many insults as you. You wanted the gloves off, until you took one on the chin.

No sir. Since I do not initiate name calling, what you are saying is a lie. You too thought you could badger and bully people. That didn't work out for you either.

You too need to keep the personal stuff out of the conversation and see if you can focus on the facts. Quit jockeying to try and prove how smart you are. IF you have that degree of intelligence, make it in the form of a rational response to the thread's topic.

Try explaining how America came to the point of having more people in prisons than any nation on this planet. Why does our country consume over 80 percent of the world's opioids? How come so many people are not motivated to get better jobs ... or are there mitigating factors beyond your comprehension? According to one source, as an example:

"At some point in their lives, 10%-25% of women and 5%-12% of men will likely become clinically depressed..."

All About Depression: Overview

How does that play into this equation of high taxes, low wages and a high deficit?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I have bad news for ya, and that is no employer wants to deal with healthcare coverage, it's just that before Commie Care, they had to, otherwise they would not have nearly the selection of applicants (if any) that they would ordinarily have.

That's not to say my company isn't responsible for the problem, they are, but only partly responsible. If not for Commie Care, my employer would have had to deal with the problem in a different way.

Bullshit. most companies still offer insurance and pretty good insurance. Last job hunt I was on, every last company I talked to offered insurance.

Small Businesses Are Dropping Health Coverage; Large Employers Hold Steady

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thank you. Joe always tells me how I rip black people, but his OCD can't stop him from ripping me because my employer dropped our coverage right after Commie Care started. He goes on further to say that DumBama had nothing to do with it. Go figure.........

Of course it didn't. Your employer dropped your insurance because he's a sucky businessman. And you haven't gotten a better job because you are a sucky employee.

No, it's because of government restrictions. I'm only able to work for about 15% of possible available jobs out there, and again, many of them don't offer insurance because they too dropped it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

he's probably overpaid at $14.50 an hour...

Yes, I do look down on stupid white trash who've let themselves be fooled like he has.

Right. You couldn't do my job if you wanted to. Instead you write resumes which anybody can do. There are probably 100 videos on YouTube that show people how to write better ones than you.

 

[Papageorgio]

Again prove it!


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Anybody can read this thread for themselves. The best proof is that you have to make an insult in order to answer my posts that don't even mention you.

Can’t prove it, okay then.


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If you can't read the thread, then leave me alone. Don't you think it's time to put the bullshit aside and allow the thread to progress?

I've asked your dumb ass to take the personal stuff to PM. WTF dude? Are you so infantile that you cannot understand English?

This is not about your fragile ego; this is about people who work and don't get paid a realistic wage. I know. You get a grand a month for a mental disability and don't have to think about such things.

... Moving right along. Unless the American people can get their heads out of their rear ends, the Democrats will retake the White House and at least one branch of Congress and end up supporting Bernie Sanders style socialism.

Again, you make accusations, then you need to back it up, I am not going to let you make up crap without calling you out. I don’t use PM, grow up and deal with it. If you can’t tell me in the open, then you don’t need to say it at all. Got it, good.

...Moving right along. I’d support Sanders over Trump. The GOP needs to either listen to their constituents or they will lose control in the House or the Senate in 2019. The GOP was lucky the Democrats ran Clinton, any other candidate would have beat Trump.

I already have proven the point. Any jackass with an IQ the size of their shoe can read this thread and see you are nothing more than a childish troll that likes to piss people off but is too chickenshit to call them out in PM and face them.

You are a keyboard commando that has a big ego and damn little for brains. Can I prove it? You bet. You want to grandstand and call people names; you like to make idiotic allegations; you want all the political jockeying to be public. You like to engage in what, if done in face to face encounters, is called "fighting words" where I come from.

"A person commits the offense of disorderly conduct when such person commits any of the following:

...Without provocation, uses to or of another person in such other person's presence, opprobrious or abusive words which by their very utterance tend to incite to an immediate breach of the peace, that is to say, words which as a matter of common knowledge and under ordinary circumstances will, when used to or of another person in such other person's presence, naturally tend to provoke violent resentment, that is, words commonly called "fighting words"...

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 11 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY :: ARTICLE 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER :: § 16-11-39 - Disorderly conduct

YOU were the one who began engaging me with words that would rise to such a level. Yet, you basically called me out and when I told you to take it to PM where you could tell me to name the time and the place, your spineless, gutless ass backed down. You like that you can pretend to be an Internet tough guy; you like that that you can do what amounts to criminal activity anonymously, but never get called on it.

You're a fucking bully that don't have any brains, no guts, and no scruples. So, if you want to reply to this and keep this going, I'll simply cut and paste this portion of my response. You and I have nothing left to talk about. Badgering me over personal crap is a violation of the TOS as you like to yap about. Let me quote them for you:

"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws."

Your specific threat in your recent post is: "I am not going to let you make up crap without calling you out."

Okay. You've called me out. You got your response. It's time to put up or STFU. If you want to take it further, go to PM. I'm not engaging in pissing matches in order to post here. That is my word to you.

AND BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND

It's a sad commentary that the general public has this great tool by which we could have productive discussions and bounce ideas off each other, maybe coming up with a solution to the political issues that plague us, but we don't do that.

Thomas Jefferson stated:

“A wise and frugal government… shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”

First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

The reality is that today we have excessively high taxes, poverty level wages, a deficit that cannot realistically be paid off and all the current economic theories remain just that: theory. I say we experiment so as not to bankrupt the country and see what works and if it is a combination wherein the employer gets to decide whether they want to hire whomever they choose and pay what they want and pay the higher taxes OR pay above poverty level, hire an all American staff and pay much lower taxes, go with it.

You failed to prove it, got it. Thanks for the info.

I say you hire an all American staff, that is a good solution my issue is giving company a tax break to do the right thing. I’m for imposing a penalty for a company that doesn’t hire 100% American, it’s penalty for doing the wrong thing.

 

[Papageorgio]

It seems you like to look down at people, Ray has never left that impression. I also couldn’t find where he said he made $14.50 an hour and I would be willing to be you can’t either.

he's probably overpaid at $14.50 an hour...

Yes, I do look down on stupid white trash who've let themselves be fooled like he has.

He never stated he made $14.50 an hour, you are twisting what he posted but you already know that. It’s another game.

 

[JoeB131]

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Small Businesses Are Dropping Health Coverage; Large Employers Hold Steady

So by your own chart, ObamaCare had no effect on the already existing trend.