To the Conservatives.

How about they deregulated the industry so that people didn't even need to show documentation to get a home? So Illegals could buy homes. How easy was it for them to walk away after they took home equity loans out of those houses that lost thousands in value?

Uh no, that would be Obama and his cohorts...

LiveLeak.com - Acorn/Obama Sued Citigroup To Give The Loans That Caused This Mess.

Acorn/Obama Sued Citigroup To Give The Loans That Caused This Mess.

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Wow, this doesn't paste well...

Guess you will have to go to the Website to read it.
 
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I posted this months ago. Along with transcripts of speeches and copies of letters the president had written begging for more regulation.

The left ignores the facts and continues with the mindless rant, which has no basis in fact.
Bill Clinton even admitted on national radio that he played a role and made a huge mistake in backing F&F....
Understood...

But I will attempt to beat the Truth into their Head, regardless of their continued denials.

But thanks for trying, at least some people bother to be informed BEFORE they make such decisions.
 
Seriously, Gaarbage? :lol:

I saw that embarrassing defeat that you earned at Reiver's hands...you're not in much of a position to tell anybody about "fact." :lol:
So you say...

If you understood the discussion being had with Reiver, you would understand he doesn't have a CLUE, as many posters have shown over the course of that Thread.

He doesn't even understand the difference between Empirical Evidence and Theory.

And all he has is Theory.
 
Nor are you.

So you say...

If you understood the discussion being had with Reiver, you would understand he doesn't have a CLUE, as many posters have shown over the course of that Thread.

He doesn't even understand the difference between Empirical Evidence and Theory.

And all he has is Theory.

:lol:

All right, big men, what say you head over to my socialism thread and rack up some more objections for me to respond to when I have reliable Internet access again? :razz:
 
And at any rate, Reiver repeatedly referred back to Logue and Yates, who have conducted extensive study into the efficiency of worker-owned enterprises...and they have relied extensively on empirical evidence.
 
Nor are you.

So you say...

If you understood the discussion being had with Reiver, you would understand he doesn't have a CLUE, as many posters have shown over the course of that Thread.

He doesn't even understand the difference between Empirical Evidence and Theory.

And all he has is Theory.

:lol:

All right, big men, what say you head over to my socialism thread and rack up some more objections for me to respond to when I have reliable Internet access again? :razz:

How about I save you the embarrassment and don't? I prefer honest debate to your dishonest word games, thanks.
 
And at any rate, Reiver repeatedly referred back to Logue and Yates, who have conducted extensive study into the efficiency of worker-owned enterprises...and they have relied extensively on empirical evidence.



If the workers want to own a company, let them pool together and purchase the company. Free enterprise. No one is stopping them or they can pool together and begin their own company and make it employee owned.

Free enterprise and capitalism already provides for this.

ah, but the idea is, to have it handed to them, without the risk, now isn't it?
 
How about I save you the embarrassment and don't? I prefer honest debate to your dishonest word games, thanks.

Embarrassed? Me? :lol:

If you say so.

If the workers want to own a company, let them pool together and purchase the company. Free enterprise. No one is stopping them or they can pool together and begin their own company and make it employee owned.

Free enterprise and capitalism already provides for this.

ah, but the idea is, to have it handed to them, without the risk, now isn't it?

No, the idea is to expropriate productive assets in the same manner that the Argentine autogestion movement has. I do not refer to ownership of stock options or any other such trivialities, because that could not function on a large scale due to the lack of social mobility in capitalist economies. The fact remains that capitalist models of organization remain inefficient due to their hierarchical nature, which necessitates the creation of unnecessary management models, an inefficiency that socialism corrects through autogestion and participatory management.
 
Just an observation. Trolls do not 'quote' any posters in any regular order. Instead they act as if they are responding to the previous post, when in fact it may be a page or two back. While you are trying to find their references, you'll face a tsunami of posts. that's trolling.
 
Just an observation. Trolls do not 'quote' any posters in any regular order. Instead they act as if they are responding to the previous post, when in fact it may be a page or two back. While you are trying to find their references, you'll face a tsunami of posts. that's trolling.

just a observation.. but ..your observation is dumb..
 

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