to justly rate the presidents of our era....

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    Maybe I'm just showing my ignorance... again. Someone will think that.

    Since we will never have an idea of what any of those former President's were truely about, what they truely accomplished and what they actually wanted or tried to do that was stopped, good or bad, we have no actual basis to judge them on. Although I probably should add that those Presidents that were written into history as incompetent or foolish, were probably the ones with the best of intent for the majority of the people, those that they felt they owed their high office to. We've witnessed in our own lifetime such blatant and ruthless coverups that nothing in Political History should be believed in our day, especially, if you lived it. In that light, My Stamp of Approval would have to go to Thomas Jefferson and my idea of who the worst would have to be, without a doubt, Abraham Lincoln. He could have refused all dialog of war. A war to save the Union was simply Not the right answer and the attrocities of that war were foreseeable, preventable and horiffic. He could easily be followed by U.S.Grant. and most definately not, by Andrew Johnson who vetoed 29 bills in which he was overruled by congress 15 times, which In my book makes him most likely one of the Better President's. Which is probably why he was impeached.

    All of todays leaders are some form of industrial puppets with their hands stuffed with payments and favors of one form or another. Reagan got rid of the Soviet Union By making a lot of Arms Manufacturers and Defense Contractors Wealthy, Very Wealthy, with such cash sucking schemes as The Star Wars Defense Initiative and the at the time already obsolete before manufacturing was approved U2 Bomber Project and numerous other the bad ideas like the Bradley fighting vehicle. Not to mention Missles and Areospace. He also coined the phrase Trickle Down economics which he somehow spun in the light of Raising Taxes as a Necessary Evil. Based on the Iran Contra hearings, you have to wonder how many other coverups were wrought in his tenure...the ones that never made the news? We'll never know. Yet History has him as "The President that ended the Cold War". On those lines, what will they call George W. Bush? He'll probably be called "The Twice Elected President that held our country together through horrendous threats of National Disaster, International Terror, Epidemic, Disease, Economic Crisis and Oil Crisis...." If they just said The One Time Elected President (one they're still counting) Who brought with him all of the above, well that wouldn't be fair would it? Never mind I'm going back to the baseball threads.

    But before I go, Think about this..... if 5 percent of the country holds 95 percent of the wealth. Why do we bother to tax 95 percent of the people? When if we just took away the loop holes and actually taxed that 5 percent with all the cash we'd be getting taxes on 95 percent of the money! Oh but then they'd leave wouldn't they? Aren't they leaving now? The factories sure are!

    You can go ahead and trash me or my thread now.
    --always taunted, never daunted--
     
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    Are you one of Jay Bennish's students?
     
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    Clinton is dead last as President. He was the second President in American history to be impeached, but yet didn't have the class to step down. He's a filthy, lying, two faced, sexual predator, not to mention, a slimey liberal.

    Why should the rich have to pay my taxes just because they're rich? Fair is fair, and I'll pay my own.
     
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    We don't tax wealth we tax income.


    So yes, you are showing your ignorance.
     
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    Actually property tax and death (estate) tax on based on wealth. Persons paying those taxes are paying a consideratable amount.
     
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    Interesting...first states there is nothing to base judgement on then makes a judgement.

    Then swings right into Reagan/Bush bashing immediately followed by a shot or two at the rich.


    Which of the banned trolls has returned?
     
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    I noticed that too. DU must be boring lately. :laugh:
     
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    Why all the fuss? I am new here. THAT's MY FIRST POST!
    sorry if I offended anyones sesnibilites with my off handed remarks.
    No Comment's on the historical perspective of the post, so I take it you just want to bash the new guy's. Like your posts don't ramble a bit in the morning!
    You sure know how to make someone wanna hang around and maybe post something.
     
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    I don't agree with your premiss that historical figures can not be truly known. So no sense on commenting on it.
     
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    The only way to accomplish this is to go to a flat tax or a sales based tax, because the rich always find a way to avoid taxes.
     

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