To be fair to Newt on the issue of his past marriages.

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    What people don't understand, and keep forgetting in this life (and I can't understand why with all the experience people have on such a thing), is that there are plenty of people who have never truly found their soul mate in their life, and that they may never find their soul mate in their life all depending, even though they were looking and/or have been looking for that person through out their whole life or lives during.

    Newt has been married three times now, and it can only be hoped that he has finally found his soul mate in life, and that it is good that he has since released his first two wives, in so that they to will hopefully someday find their soulmates as well in their lives also.

    You see, what the media doesn't think that we understand, is that people can be married to someone in their life, but that doesn't mean that they are happy (or) even that they truly love one another. So if they have made a mistake when they did get married, either to someone they really didn't know in life, until later on down the line, or thought that they could love, but then found out differently later on down the line (what ever the case was), then it is definetly their choice to not be married to that person anymore if were seriously unhappy with one another in the relationship.

    Now some people stay together in these situations, because of the children involved by agreement there of (or other reasons), but that doesn't mean that they are like any other married couple in life at that point (or) will ever be at that point. The main thing for both at some given moment, is to do right by the children always when it is possible to do so.

    At this point, it just becomes an arrangement until the kids get big enough to deal with a divorce in many cases. So if Newt was un-happy or his wives were also, and a divorce was eminant in each case, then who are we to speculate upon what him and his former wives were going through in each of these marriages, especially the way it is being talked about by us (or) scrutinized by us today ? Hey the women might have seen Newt as incompatible for them in the situation, so they might have wanted out just as well, yet even so they may not have told Newt, but instead they just showed coldness unto him (don't touch me etc.), that may have caused him to go in search of at that point in time, where as both were still trying to hang on even so, but truly didnot love one another anymore, and both of them new that in each situation being delt with.

    Now the media is speculating by calling Newt a scumbag and what have you because of his situations in life pertaining to his marriages, but like I said, we truly don't know what the situation was within these marriages as was lived in, or even how these marriges came to be in the first place... Example: What if they got married for reasons like money or fame or things of that nature at those levels, where soon the fun wore off, and they both realized that they really didn't love one another, so should they have been forced by us to stay together?

    NOPE !!!

    How can we call this man a scumbag and bad person, when we don't even know what the situation was that he was living in back then, or what his wives were living in also, when it came to whether or not these couples were truly compatible in life or not ?

    The good thing is, is that Newt isn't trashing his former wife/wives (i.e. the mothers of his & their children together), by saying to us in some kind of cheezy defense of, that they had some serious problems in life, in which may have sent him into the arms of another woman because of, and also that his former wives aren't trashing him as a father of their children together, and this maybe because of the incompatiblity issues or lack of love issues etc. in which they may have gotten married mistakenly over.

    People of America today, you know how it is these day's, and more often now than it was back in the old days, where as a man & woman marries, only to find out quickly or sometimes years later, that they had messed up and married the wrong person. Is it our standard these days, to somehow keep people together, just because they look good together?

    Newt has a say in this also, but what I found to be so cheezy, is that the networks went out and paid money for Newts former wife, to be questioned by them in hopes to trash him, but didn't have Newt on at the same time to respond to the situation. Now they should have had Newt on to defend himself, in order to give us a fair and balanced understanding of the situation if that is what they hoped that they were supposedly doing. However they didn't, and so these slime ball media outlets talk all kinds of bad about Fox, but then they go and do something far beneath what Fox News does, where as they try and skew the message for political reasons, and then hope we just eat it all up. The show called " Young Turks" was one in specific that was doing this in which I watched the other night. :cuckoo:
     
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    I guess when Newt was banging some chicks while he was married to his first wife he was too damn busy to get divorced first.

    And then when he was banging some more chicks while he was married to his second wife, he was too damn busy to get divorced first.

    The neverending quest for a "soul mate" is an exhausting one I guess.

    He should have tried Argentinia. It worked for Mark Sanford.
     
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    Wait, I thought Newt said patriotism was the reason he cheated?!?
     
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    We can do so simply by holding him to his own standards.


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    By his own standards, Newt should be in jail.
     
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    You only have one side of the story, but yet you are sure that he was the scumbag eh? Maybe Newt is a better man than you think him to be or give him absolutely no credit for, and thus if something happened that caused him to fall out of love with his first and then second wife, well maybe he isn't one to go trashing his former wives, thus talking about it wrecklacy to the media, and so instead he is taking it all onto his own shoulders for the sake of his children and their mothers in the situations. Ever think about it that way maybe?

    I would love to see them all on a show together, discussing how their lives have gotten better since the split, and how it was for them to do the right thing for all in the situations, and then for them to wish each other a happy life afterwards.. You know the show "REBA" was a super popular show, but look at the situation or senario that was the script in that show, where as it related to so many peoples lives in this day and age, and where as people understand these things better now, but all of a sudden we are to listen to the media trash someone for political reasons, and act as if we are just dum enough to swallow what they push on us?
     
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    A guy who cheats on his wife? And then runs ads about Clinton cheating on HIS wife, just before an election?

    Yeah. I am sure he's a hypocritical scumbag. A bigger scumbag than Clinton, and that's really saying something.
     
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    Hey I'm just trying to be more curious and open minded here in all of this mess, but to answer you, the issue with Mark Sandford wasn't that he was off to seek his soulmate, but that he did this while he was supposed to be on the job doing the work and duites of S.C. States business, where as he was also spending money that belong to the state on these trips etc. so I heard.. Now that was dispicable as far as the taxpaying citizens of the state were concerned with about their governer.

    I thought Mark Sanford was a fool by what he did, but then again, I don't truly know what his situation was either in his marriage, so who was I to judge that part of it. Now the voters job was to judge him for his performance and actions as a governer, so he got what was coming to him, in which was exactly right in that case.
     
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    Read my reply on Mark Sanford of South Carolina above, now are you sure about what Newt did was wrong concerning Clinton? Clinton did wrong at his job, thus making it an issue concerning his job. Newt's events didnot concern his job at all, but rather his private life. Big difference!
     
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    Go back and you will find that everyone one was either on board with at some point in time (or) had a hand in the ok'ing of at some point and time (or) was in support of at some point in time, this Freddie Mack and Fannie May corporation, at least until it all went south on them.. Otherwise If you supported housing and loans to the poor or struggling in America etc. and you held office as a politician, most likely you supported Fannie May and Freddie Mack at some point and time. Newt is no diffrent to have been involved somehow in these names, just like everyone else in Washington DC was also. We just need to make sure where Newt was standing at in all of this mess. Nothing wrong with being involved with that which you may have thought was ok at the time, but then to later find out differently, in which could be what the situation was with Newt... I don't know, just giving him the benefit of an open mind in the case or cases.

    Lets lay it all out on the table.
     
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