To all French citizens and appeasers...

[jimnyc]

Maria, your 'reported post' has been received. Thank you for reporting me to myself, idiot!

 

[jimnyc]

Your second 'reported post' has been received and noted, dipshit.

 

[Said1]

 

[insein]

Originally posted by maria5583
Yes, right. then what is the harm of selling Iraq convential weapons? Right? But selling WMDs which the U.S. did in the 1980s is immoral especially when they are claiming to be so self rightous now!!!!Yes, I know it's hard to believe but many of your "wonderful" presidents are war criminals. Read a book!Once again you have proven yourself as rather the classless American with your name calling.

Honey, jimmy offers eveidence of the French being pussies and Blix stating that Iraq had not complied with the UN's own resolutions. More eveidence shows that Blix said there were materials unnaccounted for. Yet you dwell on the fact that he has condemned the war. Why? Because its the only thing in his report that supports your baseless claims.

Now to your other opinions and fantasies. The Americans supplied weapons to Iraq, but when did they supply WMD's as you say? Whend did they supply even the materials to make WMDs?

No fact, all opinion and fiction. I feel like im watching CNN.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by maria5583
Blix's report that you provided only strenghts my views. The man wanted more time to investigate and the U.S. wouldn't give him it and just decided to attack.

Is 10 years enough for ya honey? I think the UN had plenty of time to prove they are incapable of handling any serious problem that occurs in the World.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by jimnyc
Maria, your 'reported post' has been received. Thank you for reporting me to myself, idiot!

LMAO :

 

[Zhukov]

The Israelis have bombed a French-built nuclear plant near Iraq's capital

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm

this is an illegal war because it has no UN approval

A war does not need UN approval for it to be legal, according to the UN itself.

Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations,

Article 51 of the United Nations Charter

Armed Attacks against allied interests, in violation of the 1991 Gulf War cease fire.

Iraqi forces fired anti-aircraft artillery (AAA) from sites northeast of Mosul

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iraq/2002/iraq-021117-eucom01.htm

U.S. military officials said the attacks are initiated only in response to Iraqi fire.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A57054-2003Jan14?language=printer

But the zones have been breached by Iraq on several past occasions, with varying consequences.


December 1992 - a combat aircraft shot down an Iraqi fighter which had entered one of the exclusion zones.
13 January 1993 - Western forces attacked targets in southern Iraq following Iraqi military activity in the exclusion zone. Further attacks took place in late January 1993.
July/August 1993 - US planes strike against Iraqi anti-aircraft missile sites in a series of attacks in the no fly zones in southern and northern Iraq.
August/September 1996 - Iraqi armed forces deployed in the Kurdish safe haven in northern Iraq. The US Launches missile attacks on targets in southern Iraq and extends the no-fly zone.
April 1997 - During the Muslim pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, known as the Hajj, Saddam flies pilgrims both to and from Mecca. US refrains from action saying: "We're not prepared to stop what seem to be small-scale and reasonable humanitarian actions." The pilgrimage is due to begin again in early 1999.
June 31 1998 - US F-16 fires a missile at a radar site in southern Iraq after Iraqi radar locked onto Allied jets flying a routine mission over the Iraqi no-fly zone.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/crisis_in_the_gulf/forces_and_firepower/244364.stm

et cetera

http://www.historyguy.com/no-fly_zone_war.html

 

[supermarine]

YAAA, and now the zhukov battlton has rushed in to reinforce. WAY TA GO. keep up the good work, and same with u jimmy

 

[misysvienna]

"My question is, why are French citizens over looking the financial ties your leader and government had with a mass murdering dictator?"

Aren't you overlooking ties the USA has had with several of these? such as bin laden being a paid member of the CIA? and come to think of it - 'mass murdering dictator' sounds like a certain mr bush to me...

 

[misysvienna]

Originally posted by jimnyc
Can you please take your time when responding, I can't stand reading posts by people that are illiterate.

Call them war criminals all you like. Rants from retards without facts really don't bother me.

Thankyou jimny c for completely assuring me of your stupidity..gave me a few minutes of laughter i assure you.

Was that reply a deflection from the fact you have no arguments for your leaders' crimes and deceptions? i think it might have been. for gods sake!! wake up, realise YOU'RE the one who is sounding stupid. illiterate? yes...do i decide that you don't know what that means? i dont think that was a rant, more in fact perfectly correect statements.

If you can't see this then you've just proved yourself dimmer than you'd care to think yourself. Get some good come-backs huh?

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by misysvienna
"My question is, why are French citizens over looking the financial ties your leader and government had with a mass murdering dictator?"

Aren't you overlooking ties the USA has had with several of these? such as bin laden being a paid member of the CIA? and come to think of it - 'mass murdering dictator' sounds like a certain mr bush to me...

Nice dodge.

First of all, our President was democratically elected, and is up for election again. That doesn't quite mesh with the definition of dictator now does it?

Second of all, French soldiers are with us in Afghanistan, and if one projects the trends of state-sponsored exterminations inside Iraq from the start of the war forward to the present, I'll bet our President has saved more Iraqi lives than the number of innocent Iraqis who have unitentionally been killed by our actions liberating that country.

Third, by commiting illegal acts during their participation in the U.N. 'Oil-for-Palaces' program, one could argue that those French people involved are partly responsible for the starvation deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

Fourth, Osama was paid by the CIA to help us in our efforts to destroy the Soviets. You remember the Soviets don't you?

When asked about how proud he must feel that his soldiers had conquered Berlin, Stalin responded:

"Alexander made it to Paris."

You're welcome.

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by misysvienna
Thankyou jimny c for completely assuring me of your stupidity..gave me a few minutes of laughter i assure you.

Was that reply a deflection from the fact you have no arguments for your leaders' crimes and deceptions? i think it might have been. for gods sake!! wake up, realise YOU'RE the one who is sounding stupid. illiterate? yes...do i decide that you don't know what that means? i dont think that was a rant, more in fact perfectly correect statements.

If you can't see this then you've just proved yourself dimmer than you'd care to think yourself. Get some good come-backs huh?

If you are going to call someone stupid and illiterate you should at least make sure your spelling is correct, can you realize that?

 

[misysvienna]

George bush cheated: Not only in Florida, but also across the country, African American votes were disproportionately thrown out. so now hes; racist, sexist, homophobic and a right wing facist. Got to tell you- great reasons to support this guy.
maybe not SO democratically elected?

Shouldn't have used the word dictator there- i admit, just quoting a previous reply. But thats exactly how he's acting towards the middle east- wheres next for the US attack?

How can you say the war was justified when the US has committed human rights breaches there? That's no better than Saddam. And i don't think they can be called 'unintentional'.

Have you seen the numbers of people murdered in the US- and the disproportional amount of these that are ethnic minorities? how can you support this guy?

If hes so democratic and intent on showing the rest of the world how to do so, and using it as an attempt of an excuse for war maybe he should put US troops in a democratic country- since when exactly has Kuwait been an example of a democratic country?

I agree with the fact that Saddam's regime was cruel and horrible, but similar things have happened under America's involvement there.

Yes, i do remember the Soviets. For starters Stalin was evil again, granted. But, the whole anti-communism cold war thing- wasn't that just about the fact that Russia posed a threat?
Getting off the subject, The USA can't handle the fact that someone could threaten them with weapons. Russia wasn't even properly communist. And even if it was- not exactly like the communist idea was a cruel one is it? Capitalism is doing more harm than good in the third world, what do you think the awful (i admit) trade centre attcks were about? Then your perfect president defers from this idea by claiming the pentagon was attacked- where's the evidence/wreckage?!! Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened and the US wasn't informed- he did nothing.

So i made a spelling mistake......not exactly the point- more that illiterate isn't spelling wrongly, it's not being able to read or write.

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by misysvienna

So i made a spelling mistake......not exactly the point- more that illiterate isn't spelling wrongly, it's not being able to read or write.

My point is, if you are going to take the attitude you have and call someone stupid and illiterate for your own crediblities sake you should spell the words correctly in such a post.

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by misysvienna
George bush cheated: Not only in Florida, but also across the country,

Proof?

racist, sexist, homophobic and a right wing facist.

Proof?

wheres next for the US attack?

Iran or Syria

How can you say the war was justified when the US has committed human rights breaches there?

Human rights violations were commited by allied soldiers in all theatres of WW2. I guess by your logic WW2 wasn't justified.

That's no better than Saddam. And i don't think they can be called 'unintentional'.

Are we exterminating innocent Iraqi by shooting them in the head, gassing them, or throwing them into industrial paper shredders by the tens of thousands? You equate sexual humiliation and accidental deaths with the systematic slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people. You are a moral fool.

Have you seen the numbers of people murdered in the US- and the disproportional amount of these that are ethnic minorities? how can you support this guy?

Yep, Pres. Bush is responsible for every single instance of racial tension and violence in this country. It's all his fault...

Get a grip on reality.

If hes so democratic and intent on showing the rest of the world how to do so, and using it as an attempt of an excuse for war maybe he should put US troops in a democratic country- since when exactly has Kuwait been an example of a democratic country?

You want us to attack Kuwait? Incidentally, we do have troops in Kuwait. We have since '91.

I agree with the fact that Saddam's regime was cruel and horrible, but similar things have happened under America's involvement there.

Proof of systematic slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people?

Yes, i do remember the Soviets. For starters Stalin was evil again, granted. But, the whole anti-communism cold war thing- wasn't that just about the fact that Russia posed a threat?

They posed a threat to humanity. Since the 1920's communism has directly resulted in the erradication of well over 60 million people.

Capitalism is doing more harm than good in the third world

Proof?

what do you think the awful (i admit) trade centre attcks were about?

Glad you admit it. That must have been tough.

Because Osama is an idol worshiping pagan and he wanted to destroy the symbol of U.S. economic power: The World Trade Centre.

Then your perfect president defers from this idea by claiming the pentagon was attacked- where's the evidence/wreckage?!! Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened and the US wasn't informed- he did nothing.

Well, you can dwell in your own silly conspiracy theories, but I won't humour them. As if a President, 7 months into his term, would be complicit in the murder of over 3000 of his fellow citizens.

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by misysvienna
George bush cheated: Not only in Florida, but also across the country, African American votes were disproportionately thrown out.

The very thought that any national canidate would have the ability to cheat in an election is absurd. All of the voting districts are locally controlled by the state's counties.

Perhaps its your lack of experience in voting for a US President that is confusing you.

 

[insein]

I was debating whether or not this deserved a response due to the illinformed fanatical nature of the poster. But alas i'll give it a go.

Originally posted by misysvienna
George bush cheated: Not only in Florida, but also across the country, African American votes were disproportionately thrown out. so now hes; racist, sexist, homophobic and a right wing facist. Got to tell you- great reasons to support this guy.
maybe not SO democratically elected?

Several hundred recounts later, Bush still won. Not even the newspapers, left-wing groups or leading democrats could find a way to recount a Gore victory. As for the African-American votes being thrown out, wheres your proof? This statement alone has started you with zero credibility. Lets see if you can work your way up to anything.

Shouldn't have used the word dictator there- i admit, just quoting a previous reply. But thats exactly how he's acting towards the middle east- wheres next for the US attack?

How is he a dicatator for liberating millions and allowing them to run their own countries?

How can you say the war was justified when the US has committed human rights breaches there? That's no better than Saddam. And i don't think they can be called 'unintentional'.

No human rights breaches have occurred en masse as people will have you believe. Casualties of war have occurred, but as previously mentioned, more lives have been saved than have been killed by The Coalition.

Have you seen the numbers of people murdered in the US- and the disproportional amount of these that are ethnic minorities? how can you support this guy?

This just shows a complete ignorance to America for the past 200 years. African Americans have had to struggle to earn their rights. These last 25 years have been the best they've ever had it. Ever since reagan came into office, Blacks have gained more of a foothold into the middle class. However, those murders that you refer to are caused mostly by black on black violenece. Go look at the numbers and you will see that white on black crime is a rarity these days. And how can you blame someone who has had power for 3.5 years for something that has occurred even before his grandpop was born? Ignorance is bliss i suppose.

If hes so democratic and intent on showing the rest of the world how to do so, and using it as an attempt of an excuse for war maybe he should put US troops in a democratic country- since when exactly has Kuwait been an example of a democratic country?

The problem there is that democratic nations usually cooperate diplomatically where as dictators usually defy diplomacy as history has shown us. Hitler defied France and England's appeasement treaties and attacked them anyway. Stalin brutally murdered thousands of his own people despite diplomatic protests from civilized nations. Saddam did the same. He snubbed his nose for 12 years at the US and the UN. All dictators know is power and force. So to bring one down, you better be willing to carry a big stick.

I agree with the fact that Saddam's regime was cruel and horrible, but similar things have happened under America's involvement there.

Nothing as atrocious as Saddam's gasing, raping and torturing of his own people. Comparing the isolated incident of 12 people to systematic genocide of millions is another ignorant statement.

Yes, i do remember the Soviets. For starters Stalin was evil again, granted. But, the whole anti-communism cold war thing- wasn't that just about the fact that Russia posed a threat?
Getting off the subject, The USA can't handle the fact that someone could threaten them with weapons. Russia wasn't even properly communist. And even if it was- not exactly like the communist idea was a cruel one is it? Capitalism is doing more harm than good in the third world, what do you think the awful (i admit) trade centre attcks were about? Then your perfect president defers from this idea by claiming the pentagon was attacked- where's the evidence/wreckage?!! Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened and the US wasn't informed- he did nothing.

There in lies your problem. Believing that communism works. Communism and its bastard sister socialism do NOT work. It assumes that ALL humans are created equal and that evil does not exist. It assumes that all people will share with all people. There in lies the flaw. Humans are fallable. Thats why we have murder and rape and genocide. There are evil people in the world that wish to exploit the good ones. When people are made to rely on each other, some will work hard and some will work less. When people see that they can do less and still get the same as the guy who works more, there goes their incentive and thus they exploit the good people. It weakens the will of the people to achieve and therefore crushes under its own weight.

So i made a spelling mistake......not exactly the point- more that illiterate isn't spelling wrongly, it's not being able to read or write.

Yes at least you understood that much. But at the end of reading your post, i conclude that you have less than zero credibility. I give more credibility to conartists in prison then i would to you. For they at least are already behind bars where as you spread lies and are still causing damage to the world.

 

[JohnGalt]

The USA can't handle the fact that someone could threaten them with weapons

You are god damn right we can't. Someone that threatens America with weapons these days get's a swift kick to the groin and a large freedom-sized combat boot up their ass.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by JohnGalt
You are god damn right we can't. Someone that threatens America with weapons these days get's a swift kick to the groin and a large freedom-sized combat boot up their ass.

God Bless America!:usa: :usa: :usa: :usa:

 

[robgmiles]

What is up with all this french bashing? All they did was present a different view? Im sure everyone in France would agree that Saddam was a nasty piece of work and that Iraq broke many UN resolutions, but then so has many other countries including America, France, Britain and Israel. They just didnt believe that Iraq had any WMD left over or that Saddam was in anyway involved with al-quida. These both look incresingly unlikely, maybe the french did have a point after all!
The French are only guilty of taking the time to think about this properly and not acting gung-ho and getting themselves stuck in this mess.
Dont forget the French supported and even sent troops to afghanistan to help us out when we actually had a legitimate reason for war.

The French are not anti-american by any stretch of the imagination, quite the opposite actually. but then i guess none of you have ever been there to see it for yourselves, you have only heard it through the media