Tired about being embarrassed about America:

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You argument is a red herring.

Guns already are in schools. In UT, teachers can carry conceal in schools.

FALSE! Almost all schools are gun-free zones (guns prohibited) There are a few exceptions (very few) ALL schools need to be CCW schools + armed guards, to stop the mass slaughter that gun-free zones have allowed to happen.

Gun-free zone idiocy created by dumb liberals has got to go - and it is going, right now.

Repeal gun-free zones

maybe but the larger issue is the rot in our society that now produces school shooters and requires armed guards. Do you understand?

 

[AZGAL]

Believe me Ed we are trying to understand. Unfortunately your writing does not make all that much sense.

 

[toobfreak]

Tired of being embarrassed about America.

And America is tired of being embarrassed by people like you. MOVE.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Ed supposedly has a doctorate in economics, which is very hard to believe, because his writings are confused and witless on the subject.

 

[protectionist]

maybe but the larger issue is the rot in our society that now produces school shooters and requires armed guards. Do you understand?

I understand that the "larger" issue as you call it of whatever "rot" there is in our society, can wait until after we get ALL schools secured, and made safe from mass shooter attacks. The securing of the schools is the first priority. Fixing the rot should come secondly.

 

[Dragonlady]

maybe but the larger issue is the rot in our society that now produces school shooters and requires armed guards. Do you understand?

I understand that the "larger" issue as you call it of whatever "rot" there is in our society, can wait until after we get ALL schools secured, and made safe from mass shooter attacks. The securing of the schools is the first priority. Fixing the rot should come secondly.

I live in a country where mass shooters don’t shoot up schools because they can’t get their hands on an AR15.

There are no security guards in our schools either.

 

[protectionist]

I live in a country where mass shooters don’t shoot up schools because they can’t get their hands on an AR15.

There are no security guards in our schools either.

if you're trying to make a point that no security guards = no mass shootings, forget it. Maybe lucky you in your country are escaping this problem, but in France they have little or no armed security in place that could really use it , and they have a bigger problem with shooter attacks than in the US.

There are also attacks without guns, that happen because there are no armed security, or armed citizens. Like in this case >>

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Tired of being embarrassed about America.


Honestly, even as a conservative I am very embarrassed by Trump and the school shootings and what they says about our country. If our roots are so good why do we have these issues that other civilized countries don't have? Our president is a guy who looks really odd, is 3 times married, cheats on his wife, is dishonest in business, and lies routinely and obliviously as if he has dementia. And now we see the very sad spectacle of terrified school kids begging adults to save them from being massacred in their classrooms by lunatics with military assault rifles. What other civilized nation on earth has these problems, problems which must signal a far broader rot within.


Causes:

1) Founders' Constitution kept each branch of govt from growing relative to other branches but not govt in general from growing very liberally,


2) Founders had no idea how important religious values were as the source of social structure and morality so ignored subject altogether, in effect, creating religious anarchy.


3) Thinking, grammar, and punctuation in Constitution is so vague and messy as to not make it clear that central govt was to have only a few enumerated powers while states were to retain unlimited remaining powers. Thus, we now virtually have the liberal federal monarchy monopoly our founders thought they were escaping.


4) The right to bear arms to defend ourselves against liberal govt was, again, not clearly detailed by our timid Founders who certainly and blamelessly did not anticipate liberal school shooters. But why don't we have the wherewithal to take obvious measures to prevent or inhibit school shooters while reaffirming our right to bear arms to protect ourselves from liberal govt? Why? Because conservatives know full well liberals want to take away take away all guns, private/local/schools, religion, state/local independence and consolidate all power in a liberal communist central govt.


5) Founders again were too timid to say Democracy is mob rule without intelligent office holders and voters so they sheepishly said you had to be 35 to qualify to be president. If they had said you have to pass a test to be president and to vote we would have an intelligent democracy that would not include Trump and 3/4 of those who mob vote now, not for the commonweal but for money in their pockets.

Hahahahahahaha

No

 

[nat4900]

Oh yeah, the ones that said Hillary was going to wing by a landslide. Right.

Those polls were correct....the whims of the electoral college is another matter.

 

[protectionist]

Those polls were correct....the whims of the electoral college is another matter.

They were correct only inasmuch as when they telephoned people, they made no distinction of who they were talking to (eligible voter citizens or illegal aliens)

Yet another proof of the massive illegal alien vote.

 

[basquebromance]

in Chicago, if you make friends in school with someone who lives two blocks over, flirt with someone on a different street, or wear the wrong color T-shirt while walking your dog, you're literally putting your life on the line because there's so many guns and so many dangerous people!