I was talking w/ my dad last week, and he brought up the concept of time and space. He reminded me the images we see thru devices such as the Hubble Telescope are in fact images which are looking back in time - at history; at what WAS there thousands of years ago...sometimes more. We moved on to how God may interact with time - or be un-affected by it. That discussion was on my mind last night as I started thinking about part of a thread in this forum, where a question was asked about pre-destination; God 'choosing' those with whom He'd spend eternity. I recalled Christs' words about 'Before the world began', He knew you and stuff...and junk. Assumptions: God is not affected nor bound by 'time' as we know it. Guess: I'm wondering if God knows who will be in Heaven because those people (us?) are already there. Because of my assumption it's not unreasonable to believe in God's dimension those who would have, or will choose Him in this life, are already with him. This gives me a headache to think about too much, however who's to say the events we think 'will happen' haven't or aren't already happening, from God's point of view? Think of Time as a circle - instead of a straight line with a starting point and moving only forward. At any place in the circle, God, looking from above can point out any place in our lives and affect change. From God's perspective, he can touch any place at once, or all places at once. For God's 'right now', he can see our past, future and present. If my life ran a course along the rim of my coffee cup, I could easly point to any place along that rim - with my hole hand atop the rim, I could touch EVERY point along the rim. I'm wondering if that's how God works...I think I'm right. Thoughts? Advil?