How long before the US backs out? How long before Iraq is officially declared a full blown civil war?, and that the US should not be involved? Should we let Iran arm whomever the Shiite, and The US arm the Sunni's? While we protect the Oil? The violence is not subsiding, our latest plan is arming our enemies, (as long as they promise not to turn around and shoot us). Erecting walls hasn't changed anything, The surge has yet to show (Positive) effect. Patience yeilds death. Is september a good deadline for the NeoCons to agree this is a waste of life and money?