Time For Israel To Visit Iran

You can shove your "sources" up your terrorist worshipping butt, you fucking stupid moron. It's quite clear based in the UN Nuclear Comission what Iran is up to, and the world is in agreement over it. Even's allies know that Iran is up to no good.

Highlights in U.N. report on Iran nuclear program | Reuters
I hate to break it to you skippy, but the report uses fraudelant documents.
Which 'freudelant' documents, Herr Doktor Professer Oppenheimer?
 
Now lookie here Princess. Nejad has made it quite clear that he believes "Israel has no roots in the Middle East" & he wants Israel "eliminated." I do believe Israel needs to, shall we say, address this issue pay paying Iran a little visit.


Which 'freudelant' documents, Herr Doktor Professer Oppenheimer?
It's all right here...Isn't that a song? Oh, that's all right now.

Dubious Intelligence on Iran’s Nuclear Program Used to Justify UN Sanctions and US War Threats
 
It's coming. And it's about time. Won't the Star of David look beautiful flying all over Tehran?



Israel's not gonna do shit alone or without a green light
Yeah? And how do you know the green light hasn't already been given? What do you think all those massive joint naval manuevers in the Gulf are for? You think they are just pretending they're going to kick Iran's ass, spending hundreds on millions in military war games? Heh heh heh.

Lol if the Star of David is gonna be on Iran. Then Allah Akhbar will be on Israel lol. We can do that trade :)
 
From ROUDY
No what's not? The concept of a necessary "green light" is fictional. Israel will do whatever it has to do, to secure its survival. And the West and Arab nations will back Israel up, because they share the same concerns. Netanyahu's speech was more to inform the world that "the time is getting very near". Israel doesn't ask permission from ANYBODY when it comes to its survival and security. I think it's actions throughout its history provide ample evidence of that fact.


roudy ---have a heart-----the schmucks of the "ummah" NEED to believe that the United States and---lots of other WESTERN POWERS send their armies to HELP ISRAEL in all their battles------because from the cradle they are TAUGHT that jews cannot defeat them -----alone. they learn it againn in the mosques and in their schools etc etc WHY DO YOU WANT TO BREAK THEIR POOR LITTLE PATHETIC HEARTS? keep in mind----in the END OF DAYS they must believe that they will have the joy of emulating al nabi----by murdering, raping and pillaging jews -----EASILY--------their only happiness is this "glorious" belief granted them as a GIFT by "allah"
 
It's coming. And it's about time. Won't the Star of David look beautiful flying all over Tehran?



Yeah? And how do you know the green light hasn't already been given? What do you think all those massive joint naval manuevers in the Gulf are for? You think they are just pretending they're going to kick Iran's ass, spending hundreds on millions in military war games? Heh heh heh.

Lol if the Star of David is gonna be on Iran. Then Allah Akhbar will be on Israel lol. We can do that trade :)

Haha it must suck to have a God who raped little girls and was a pigfucker !! No wonder Muslims are so angry
 
You can shove your "sources" up your terrorist worshipping butt, you fucking stupid moron. It's quite clear based in the UN Nuclear Comission what Iran is up to, and the world is in agreement over it. Even's allies know that Iran is up to no good.

Highlights in U.N. report on Iran nuclear program | Reuters

I don't think it's quite clear. Your ad hominem attacks on posters who you would otherwise want to engage in constructive debate makes you look like a bigot and a hate monger. The only "terrorist worshipper" is see around here appears, ostensibly, to be you. You are the one that posts glorifying pictures of death and violence against other nations and groups. You are the one that supports national expansionism into other nation's lands. Here in America, we dispensed with the infantile notion of "manifest destiny" within the first century of the founding of our country. We realized that the genocidal conduct toward the people already living here, no matter how economically advantageous, was morally and ethically wrong. Sure, we could paint them as savages for resisting our drive to steal their land and resources, but this didn't change the empirical truth of what we were doing.

According to Iran, the alleged campaign has included the abduction of scientists, the sale of faulty equipment and the planting of a destructive computer worm known as Stuxnet, which briefly brought Iran's uranium enrichment activity to a halt in 2010.

Iran's nuclear chief, Fereidoun Abbasi, said Monday that separate attacks on Iran's centrifuges - through tiny explosives meant to disable key parts of the machines - were discovered before the blasts could go off on timers.

Abbasi also told the U.N. nuclear agency in Vienna that "terrorists and saboteurs" might have infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency, after the watchdog's inspectors arrived at the Fordo underground enrichment facility shortly after power lines were blown up through sabotage on Aug. 17.

Iran has repeatedly accused the IAEA of sending spies in the guise of inspectors to collect information about its nuclear activities, pointing to alleged leaks of information by inspectors to U.S. and other officials.

Five nuclear scientists and researchers have been killed in Iran since 2010. Tehran blames the deaths on Israel's Mossad spy agency as well as the CIA and Britain's MI-6. Washington and London have denied any roles. Israel has not commented.

Boroujerdi said the alleged leaks of nuclear information to its adversaries by the IAEA may finally push Tehran to end all cooperation with the agency.
http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-22-11-44-48

It galls me how you never wish to address the issues, but instead only wish to become hostile to those with opposing points of view, calling them names, and then ridiculing their counter points with out a shred of reliable or credible data. Gee, now I wonder why they have signaled a reluctance to now work with your ever so precious "IAEA" :poke: *mossad* :eusa_doh:

The Actual Quote:

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."

The Proof:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

Here is the full transcript of the speech in Farsi, archived on Ahmadinejad's web site

The Speech and Context:

While the false "wiped off the map" extract has been repeated infinitely without verification, Ahmadinejad's actual speech itself has been almost entirely ignored. Given the importance placed on the "map" comment, it would be sensible to present his words in their full context to get a fuller understanding of his position. In fact, by looking at the entire speech, there is a clear, logical trajectory leading up to his call for a "world without Zionism." One may disagree with his reasoning, but critical appraisals are infeasible without first knowing what that reasoning is.

In his speech, Ahmadinejad declares that Zionism is the West's apparatus of political oppression against Muslims. He says the "Zionist regime" was imposed on the Islamic world as a strategic bridgehead to ensure domination of the region and its assets. Palestine, he insists, is the frontline of the Islamic world's struggle with American hegemony, and its fate will have repercussions for the entire Middle East.

Ahmadinejad acknowledges that the removal of America's powerful grip on the region via the Zionists may seem unimaginable to some, but reminds the audience that, as Khomeini predicted, other seemingly invincible empires have disappeared and now only exist in history books. He then proceeds to list three such regimes that have collapsed, crumbled or vanished, all within the last 30 years:

(1) The Shah of Iran – the U.S. installed monarch

(2) The Soviet Union

(3) Iran's former arch-enemy, Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025
 
You can shove your "sources" up your terrorist worshipping butt, you fucking stupid moron. It's quite clear based in the UN Nuclear Comission what Iran is up to, and the world is in agreement over it. Even's allies know that Iran is up to no good.

Highlights in U.N. report on Iran nuclear program | Reuters

I don't think it's quite clear. Your ad hominem attacks on posters who you would otherwise want to engage in constructive debate makes you look like a bigot and a hate monger. The only "terrorist worshipper" is see around here appears, ostensibly, to be you. You are the one that posts glorifying pictures of death and violence against other nations and groups. You are the one that supports national expansionism into other nation's lands. Here in America, we dispensed with the infantile notion of "manifest destiny" within the first century of the founding of our country. We realized that the genocidal conduct toward the people already living here, no matter how economically advantageous, was morally and ethically wrong. Sure, we could paint them as savages for resisting our drive to steal their land and resources, but this didn't change the empirical truth of what we were doing.

According to Iran, the alleged campaign has included the abduction of scientists, the sale of faulty equipment and the planting of a destructive computer worm known as Stuxnet, which briefly brought Iran's uranium enrichment activity to a halt in 2010.

Iran's nuclear chief, Fereidoun Abbasi, said Monday that separate attacks on Iran's centrifuges - through tiny explosives meant to disable key parts of the machines - were discovered before the blasts could go off on timers.

Abbasi also told the U.N. nuclear agency in Vienna that "terrorists and saboteurs" might have infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency, after the watchdog's inspectors arrived at the Fordo underground enrichment facility shortly after power lines were blown up through sabotage on Aug. 17.

Iran has repeatedly accused the IAEA of sending spies in the guise of inspectors to collect information about its nuclear activities, pointing to alleged leaks of information by inspectors to U.S. and other officials.

Five nuclear scientists and researchers have been killed in Iran since 2010. Tehran blames the deaths on Israel's Mossad spy agency as well as the CIA and Britain's MI-6. Washington and London have denied any roles. Israel has not commented.

Boroujerdi said the alleged leaks of nuclear information to its adversaries by the IAEA may finally push Tehran to end all cooperation with the agency.
http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-22-11-44-48

It galls me how you never wish to address the issues, but instead only wish to become hostile to those with opposing points of view, calling them names, and then ridiculing their counter points with out a shred of reliable or credible data. Gee, now I wonder why they have signaled a reluctance to now work with your ever so precious "IAEA" :poke: *mossad* :eusa_doh:

The Actual Quote:

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."

The Proof:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

Here is the full transcript of the speech in Farsi, archived on Ahmadinejad's web site

The Speech and Context:

While the false "wiped off the map" extract has been repeated infinitely without verification, Ahmadinejad's actual speech itself has been almost entirely ignored. Given the importance placed on the "map" comment, it would be sensible to present his words in their full context to get a fuller understanding of his position. In fact, by looking at the entire speech, there is a clear, logical trajectory leading up to his call for a "world without Zionism." One may disagree with his reasoning, but critical appraisals are infeasible without first knowing what that reasoning is.

In his speech, Ahmadinejad declares that Zionism is the West's apparatus of political oppression against Muslims. He says the "Zionist regime" was imposed on the Islamic world as a strategic bridgehead to ensure domination of the region and its assets. Palestine, he insists, is the frontline of the Islamic world's struggle with American hegemony, and its fate will have repercussions for the entire Middle East.

Ahmadinejad acknowledges that the removal of America's powerful grip on the region via the Zionists may seem unimaginable to some, but reminds the audience that, as Khomeini predicted, other seemingly invincible empires have disappeared and now only exist in history books. He then proceeds to list three such regimes that have collapsed, crumbled or vanished, all within the last 30 years:

(1) The Shah of Iran – the U.S. installed monarch

(2) The Soviet Union

(3) Iran's former arch-enemy, Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025

Looks like you fell for the terrorist propaganda bait !

also, how about the MANY demonstrations that he has held where he and his 'people' chant 'DEATH TO ISRAEL' DEATH TO AMERICA'.


Care to explain that?

Maybe in Iran, death to Israel means "We hope Israel will give the 'Palestinians' their land back, but if not, we will be angry at them'
 
You can shove your "sources" up your terrorist worshipping butt, you fucking stupid moron. It's quite clear based in the UN Nuclear Comission what Iran is up to, and the world is in agreement over it. Even's allies know that Iran is up to no good.

Highlights in U.N. report on Iran nuclear program | Reuters
I hate to break it to you skippy, but the report uses fraudelant documents.
Eh? Would you like me to post the latest reports from the UN Nuclear Commission, which say EXACTLY the same thing, that Iran is enriching according to military grade standards, or did you eat enough shit yet, dickweed?
 
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You can shove your "sources" up your terrorist worshipping butt, you fucking stupid moron. It's quite clear based in the UN Nuclear Comission what Iran is up to, and the world is in agreement over it. Even's allies know that Iran is up to no good.

Highlights in U.N. report on Iran nuclear program | Reuters

I don't think it's quite clear. Your ad hominem attacks on posters who you would otherwise want to engage in constructive debate makes you look like a bigot and a hate monger. The only "terrorist worshipper" is see around here appears, ostensibly, to be you. You are the one that posts glorifying pictures of death and violence against other nations and groups. You are the one that supports national expansionism into other nation's lands. Here in America, we dispensed with the infantile notion of "manifest destiny" within the first century of the founding of our country. We realized that the genocidal conduct toward the people already living here, no matter how economically advantageous, was morally and ethically wrong. Sure, we could paint them as savages for resisting our drive to steal their land and resources, but this didn't change the empirical truth of what we were doing.

According to Iran, the alleged campaign has included the abduction of scientists, the sale of faulty equipment and the planting of a destructive computer worm known as Stuxnet, which briefly brought Iran's uranium enrichment activity to a halt in 2010.

Iran's nuclear chief, Fereidoun Abbasi, said Monday that separate attacks on Iran's centrifuges - through tiny explosives meant to disable key parts of the machines - were discovered before the blasts could go off on timers.

Abbasi also told the U.N. nuclear agency in Vienna that "terrorists and saboteurs" might have infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency, after the watchdog's inspectors arrived at the Fordo underground enrichment facility shortly after power lines were blown up through sabotage on Aug. 17.

Iran has repeatedly accused the IAEA of sending spies in the guise of inspectors to collect information about its nuclear activities, pointing to alleged leaks of information by inspectors to U.S. and other officials.

Five nuclear scientists and researchers have been killed in Iran since 2010. Tehran blames the deaths on Israel's Mossad spy agency as well as the CIA and Britain's MI-6. Washington and London have denied any roles. Israel has not commented.

Boroujerdi said the alleged leaks of nuclear information to its adversaries by the IAEA may finally push Tehran to end all cooperation with the agency.
http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-22-11-44-48

It galls me how you never wish to address the issues, but instead only wish to become hostile to those with opposing points of view, calling them names, and then ridiculing their counter points with out a shred of reliable or credible data. Gee, now I wonder why they have signaled a reluctance to now work with your ever so precious "IAEA" :poke: *mossad* :eusa_doh:

The Actual Quote:

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."

The Proof:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

Here is the full transcript of the speech in Farsi, archived on Ahmadinejad's web site

The Speech and Context:

While the false "wiped off the map" extract has been repeated infinitely without verification, Ahmadinejad's actual speech itself has been almost entirely ignored. Given the importance placed on the "map" comment, it would be sensible to present his words in their full context to get a fuller understanding of his position. In fact, by looking at the entire speech, there is a clear, logical trajectory leading up to his call for a "world without Zionism." One may disagree with his reasoning, but critical appraisals are infeasible without first knowing what that reasoning is.

In his speech, Ahmadinejad declares that Zionism is the West's apparatus of political oppression against Muslims. He says the "Zionist regime" was imposed on the Islamic world as a strategic bridgehead to ensure domination of the region and its assets. Palestine, he insists, is the frontline of the Islamic world's struggle with American hegemony, and its fate will have repercussions for the entire Middle East.

Ahmadinejad acknowledges that the removal of America's powerful grip on the region via the Zionists may seem unimaginable to some, but reminds the audience that, as Khomeini predicted, other seemingly invincible empires have disappeared and now only exist in history books. He then proceeds to list three such regimes that have collapsed, crumbled or vanished, all within the last 30 years:

(1) The Shah of Iran – the U.S. installed monarch

(2) The Soviet Union

(3) Iran's former arch-enemy, Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025
"anti-war.com"? You serious? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
 
Looks like you fell for the terrorist propaganda bait !

also, how about the MANY demonstrations that he has held where he and his 'people' chant 'DEATH TO ISRAEL' DEATH TO AMERICA'.


Care to explain that?

Maybe in Iran, death to Israel means "We hope Israel will give the 'Palestinians' their land back, but if not, we will be angry at them'
And how many times has the Israeli PM threatened to bomb them?
 
After reading all of your links, my comments are as follows:

- the first one is bogus, the page won't even load.

- the next two, the closest they get to your claim, is with the use of the term "possible military dimensions".

That's not a smoking gun, that's not verification. Possible (does not) = Verified

But hey, try again, maybe your luck will change!
 
It's coming. And it's about time. Won't the Star of David look beautiful flying all over Tehran?



Yeah? And how do you know the green light hasn't already been given? What do you think all those massive joint naval manuevers in the Gulf are for? You think they are just pretending they're going to kick Iran's ass, spending hundreds on millions in military war games? Heh heh heh.

Lol if the Star of David is gonna be on Iran. Then Allah Akhbar will be on Israel lol. We can do that trade :)

Allah Hu Achbar!!!:lol:
 
Looks like you fell for the terrorist propaganda bait !

also, how about the MANY demonstrations that he has held where he and his 'people' chant 'DEATH TO ISRAEL' DEATH TO AMERICA'.


Care to explain that?

Maybe in Iran, death to Israel means "We hope Israel will give the 'Palestinians' their land back, but if not, we will be angry at them'
And how many times has the Israeli PM threatened to bomb them?

Bomb Iranian civilians?

Never.
 
"anti-war.com"? You serious? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
Go ahead smarty pants, find a site that has an authored translation of the text of that speech. You will find a lot of the hatred stirred up in the Islamic world is by low level clerics. Official State pronouncements are not of themselves hostile in their intentions. Otherwise, Israel would not be the only one storming out of the UN like a bratty little child when Ahmadinejad speaks.

American and Zionist propaganda have twisted official state pronouncements and policy positions into something odious.
 

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