Time for a New Declaration of Independence?

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    Monday, July 4, 2011 will be the 235th anniversary of the Declaration of Indpendence. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, most Americans still agree with the basic principles in that historical document, and most (77%) still embrace the concept that a free people govern themselves.

     
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    So the question is:

    Do you agree with the strong majority that a free people govern themselves?

    Or do you agree with the political class that a strong central government is necessary to govern the people?
     
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    I believe that at this time a Strong Central Government IS necessary. The American people do not have the courage to embrace the morals, values, ethics, and ideals which are needed to allow people to properly self-determine.
     
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    So the great American experiment is dead? It failed? You trust professional politicians that have become a quasi king/dictator to have superior morals, values, ethics, and ideals to those of the people they govern?
     
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    Yes, it has failed and it is dead. In fact TODAY, July 3rd marks the 148th Anniversary of that death. It died on a small rise of land known as Cemetary Ridge in the town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania when Union soldiers repulsed the Confederate attack which has come to be known as Pickett's Charge. In the decisive moments of that battle the fate of America hung in the balance, and with the Union victory the American Civil War was all but LOST for True Americans and the True America WAS LOST for all eternity more than likely. Pickett's Charge is the turning point in American history, and it turned out to be a turn for the WORST.
     
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    I don't agree with either statement.

    The failure of the Articles of Confederation resulted in our Constitution, a document which balanced a federal government with checks and balances to prevent the tyranny of a majority or an absolute ruler.

    I support the representative democracy which exists and reject efforts by demagogues and radicals whose subjective opinions are often based on avarice, bigotry, a callous disregard for their fellow citizens and ignorance.
     
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    In the OP, the poll says 77% of the people don't believe we have a representative democracy.
     
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    ill say this, if there was a group of citizens wanting to take the country back to the foundation of liberty for all and limited self government, i would join them.
     
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    Gee, why can't we restore then enforce the old one?!?!?!?

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    I would count myself among that 77%. We have elections but they mean NOTHING. Most people simply choose between the lesser of two evils. We allow people who were never intended to be involved in the governmental process to begin with to have significant influence on the outcome of these elections. Then the individuals we elect go off and do whatever the hell they want, regardless of what they promised to do during their campaigns. That is NOT Representative Democracy.
     

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