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From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
It appears his mother did not have a choice for two reasons. The first is it was illegal. The second is she had a position of no abortions. She couldn't make the choice to abort because abortion was not an option.
It will send the message that if you truly celebrate family then you will join the anti-Choice crowd and imply you really don't love life or your family.
All that being said. This has to be one of the dumbest fucking protests I've seen since prohibition.
From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
Yup, "Pro-Choice" is a pure bullshit name for their side of the issue, it's pro abortion and that's it that's all. If you choose life you don't fit their agenda.
From the article:
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
It appears his mother did not have a choice for two reasons. The first is it was illegal. The second is she had a position of no abortions. She couldn't make the choice to abort because abortion was not an option.
It will send the message that if you truly celebrate family then you will join the anti-Choice crowd and imply you really don't love life or your family.
All that being said. This has to be one of the dumbest fucking protests I've seen since prohibition.
Of course it was an option - an option recommended by her doctor - but it was an option that she did not choose.
Many people balk when 'pro-choice' is equated to 'pro-abortion' and yet . . . . when a woman is pregnant there are only two options, carry the pregnancy to term or abort. 'Anti-choice crowd'? Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion?
From the article:
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
Yup, "Pro-Choice" is a pure bullshit name for their side of the issue, it's pro abortion and that's it that's all. If you choose life you don't fit their agenda.
Between the two it is the pro-life camp that has a bullshit term. Trying to tell others what to do with their bodies is not pro-life. By definition it is anti-choice. They don't want women to have the ability to make their own decisions. Pro-choice is accurate because it respects women's right to choose. It is ridiculous to claim being pro choice = pro abortion. If pro life means no abortions then pro abortion would be all abortions. Can you point out where the pro choice crowd advocates terminating all pregnancies? If you people think you can pull your bullshit you better log off and go watch some tv. This isn't amateur night.
It appears his mother did not have a choice for two reasons. The first is it was illegal. The second is she had a position of no abortions. She couldn't make the choice to abort because abortion was not an option.
It will send the message that if you truly celebrate family then you will join the anti-Choice crowd and imply you really don't love life or your family.
All that being said. This has to be one of the dumbest fucking protests I've seen since prohibition.
Of course it was an option - an option recommended by her doctor - but it was an option that she did not choose.
Many people balk when 'pro-choice' is equated to 'pro-abortion' and yet . . . . when a woman is pregnant there are only two options, carry the pregnancy to term or abort. 'Anti-choice crowd'? Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion?
How was it an option if abortions were illegal? How was it an option if she had a position of no options?
Of course it was an option - an option recommended by her doctor - but it was an option that she did not choose.
Many people balk when 'pro-choice' is equated to 'pro-abortion' and yet . . . . when a woman is pregnant there are only two options, carry the pregnancy to term or abort. 'Anti-choice crowd'? Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion?
How was it an option if abortions were illegal? How was it an option if she had a position of no options?
Illegal doesn't mean it can not happen. I'll wait until a better source other than HP presents information on this.
It's always an option; not taking it doesn't remove the option.
Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion? That's what I'm trying to understand here.
How was it an option if abortions were illegal? How was it an option if she had a position of no options?
Illegal doesn't mean it can not happen. I'll wait until a better source other than HP presents information on this.
It's always an option; not taking it doesn't remove the option.
Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion? That's what I'm trying to understand here.
Opting to give birth is the weenie choice. You only are brave and independent if you opt to abort. Giving any credit to a woman who opts to give birth steals everyone elses thunder.
Yup, "Pro-Choice" is a pure bullshit name for their side of the issue, it's pro abortion and that's it that's all. If you choose life you don't fit their agenda.
Between the two it is the pro-life camp that has a bullshit term. Trying to tell others what to do with their bodies is not pro-life. By definition it is anti-choice. They don't want women to have the ability to make their own decisions. Pro-choice is accurate because it respects women's right to choose. It is ridiculous to claim being pro choice = pro abortion. If pro life means no abortions then pro abortion would be all abortions. Can you point out where the pro choice crowd advocates terminating all pregnancies? If you people think you can pull your bullshit you better log off and go watch some tv. This isn't amateur night.
That's the sticking point in the abortion debate. 'Pro-choice' says it's the woman's body to do with as she chooses; 'pro-life' say it's the unborn's body and thus, the unborn's life, that is affected.
Isn't a woman who has an abortion doing the very thing that she rebels against? Isn't she 'making the decision about what will happen to anothers (the unborn) body'?
Of course it was an option - an option recommended by her doctor - but it was an option that she did not choose.
Many people balk when 'pro-choice' is equated to 'pro-abortion' and yet . . . . when a woman is pregnant there are only two options, carry the pregnancy to term or abort. 'Anti-choice crowd'? Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion?
How was it an option if abortions were illegal? How was it an option if she had a position of no options?
Illegal doesn't mean it can not happen. I'll wait until a better source other than HP presents information on this.
It's always an option; not taking it doesn't remove the option.
Does choice only apply if the woman opts for abortion? That's what I'm trying to understand here.
From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
The ad is bad advice. But then again the beer ads are bad advice too.
From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
Between the two it is the pro-life camp that has a bullshit term. Trying to tell others what to do with their bodies is not pro-life. By definition it is anti-choice. They don't want women to have the ability to make their own decisions. Pro-choice is accurate because it respects women's right to choose. It is ridiculous to claim being pro choice = pro abortion. If pro life means no abortions then pro abortion would be all abortions. Can you point out where the pro choice crowd advocates terminating all pregnancies? If you people think you can pull your bullshit you better log off and go watch some tv. This isn't amateur night.
That's the sticking point in the abortion debate. 'Pro-choice' says it's the woman's body to do with as she chooses; 'pro-life' say it's the unborn's body and thus, the unborn's life, that is affected.
Isn't a woman who has an abortion doing the very thing that she rebels against? Isn't she 'making the decision about what will happen to anothers (the unborn) body'?
You're trying to equate the unborn with the born. If you order scrambled eggs for breakfast are you asking for dancing chickens?
From the article:
The ad, which is expected to promote an anti-choice message, will be based on the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life.
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
Actually..........no.
Tebow's mother was a missionary in the Philippines during the pregnancy. She contracted and illness, and as a result of the illness and resulting toxic shock, her placenta ruptured. The doctors in the PI didn't have the required medical facilities, and the doctor recommended that she have an abortion to stay alive.
Recovering from something like that is hard enough in the States, at current technology, how much harder do you think it was when Tebow was born?
Some of you people have stated that you are against abortion, except in cases to save the mother, incest, or rape.
This was a medically recommended thing, by a qualified doctor, because her chances of survival, as well as the child's were in the very low end of the scale.
So, take your false, hypocritical umbrage over this ad being protested.
Like I said in another thread, I wouldn't mind it so much if they would just TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH AND NOT SPIN THEIR BULLSHIT INTO IT!
THAT is why I think the ad is fucked.
That's the sticking point in the abortion debate. 'Pro-choice' says it's the woman's body to do with as she chooses; 'pro-life' say it's the unborn's body and thus, the unborn's life, that is affected.
Isn't a woman who has an abortion doing the very thing that she rebels against? Isn't she 'making the decision about what will happen to anothers (the unborn) body'?
You're trying to equate the unborn with the born. If you order scrambled eggs for breakfast are you asking for dancing chickens?
Are you saying that what grows inside of a woman isn't human? Isn't life?
I never heard of this tebow guy and can't help but wonder why anyone gives a flying fuck about what he says enough to warrant multiple threads
From the article:
Tim's mother had the options of abortion or carrying the baby to term. She opted for the latter; she chose to carry Tim to term.
Someone explain to me how this ad will promote an anti-choice message. Or is 'choice' only applicable when the choice made is abortion?
Actually..........no.
Tebow's mother was a missionary in the Philippines during the pregnancy. She contracted and illness, and as a result of the illness and resulting toxic shock, her placenta ruptured. The doctors in the PI didn't have the required medical facilities, and the doctor recommended that she have an abortion to stay alive.
Recovering from something like that is hard enough in the States, at current technology, how much harder do you think it was when Tebow was born?
Some of you people have stated that you are against abortion, except in cases to save the mother, incest, or rape.
This was a medically recommended thing, by a qualified doctor, because her chances of survival, as well as the child's were in the very low end of the scale.
So, take your false, hypocritical umbrage over this ad being protested.
Like I said in another thread, I wouldn't mind it so much if they would just TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH AND NOT SPIN THEIR BULLSHIT INTO IT!
THAT is why I think the ad is fucked.
Exactly. And Tim's mother chose to carry her pregnancy to term, even knowing that it would risk both their lives.
Abortion doesn't get dibs on the pro-choice term but from people's reaction to this commercial it sure seems as if pro-choice = pro-abortion. Otherwise, why would they be so upset at her choice?
You're trying to equate the unborn with the born. If you order scrambled eggs for breakfast are you asking for dancing chickens?
Are you saying that what grows inside of a woman isn't human? Isn't life?
No that isn't what I'm saying. I'm saying you're trying to equate the unborn with the born. If you order scrambled eggs for breakfast are you asking for dancing chickens?
What is your answer?
An egg by itself is nothing more than a potential something.
A sperm by itself is nothing more than a motile cell with potential to be something.
Right sperm meets right egg? It starts to divide and form more cells. At this time as well, it is STILL NOT A HUMAN.
At around the 40 day mark, the cells finally form a network of connections, and your nervous system is formed. At that time, the embryo is now capable of feeling pain.
THAT is when it's "human".
