Tide turning against the illegal aliens and their leftwing supporters?

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The passage of the Beason-Hammon Act in Alabama is aimed at the key to ridding this country of illegals and all the problems they bring: illegal employment in the US. It sanctions employers who "reasonably should have known" they were hiring an illegal. This goes a long way, but the main problem in this country with dealing with scofflaw employers is something that really gutted the 1986 federal immigration act - a section that said employers have an affirmative duty to determine whether employees were entitled to work in the US was taken out. That gave them in effect a green light to hire anyone they wanted. This needs to be put back into law.

The alabama act follows the USSC decision Chamber of Commerce v. Whiting, which held that the Legal Arizona Workers Act that provides for the suspension and/or revocation of the business licenses of Arizona employers who knowingly or intentionally employ unauthorized aliens is not expressly preempted by the federal Immigration Reform and Control Act, the main device used by the obamanistas to try to overturn the arizona law. That was a tremendous victory for those fighting the invasion of this country promoted by leftwingers to ensure their permanent political power.
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Crop Losses Could Top $1B

Republican policies strike again. The "Policy of Unintended Consequence". Because they govern without thought. It's why their policies are consistent. They constantly fail.
 
Tide turning against the illegal aliens and their leftwing supporters?

In Alabama? You’ve got to be kidding; this reactionary state is hardly representative. You’re also in error with regard to ‘leftwing’ support of illegal immigration. You’re confused in that they support case law and the Constitution on the issue, where illegal aliens are entitled to basic due process rights.

For example:

It also makes it illegal for anyone to knowingly rent housing to illegal immigrants and bans any illegal immigrant from enrolling in any public college after high school.

The former has already been struck down as un-Constitutional:

In his decision, Munley said all people must be protected regardless of their legality.

"The genius of our Constitution is that it provides rights even to those who evoke the least sympathy from the general public," he wrote. "Hazleton, in its zeal to control the presence of a group deemed undesirable, violated the rights of such people, as well as others within the community."

In his decision, Munley said all people must be protected regardless of their legality.

"The genius of our Constitution is that it provides rights even to those who evoke the least sympathy from the general public," he wrote. "Hazleton, in its zeal to control the presence of a group deemed undesirable, violated the rights of such people, as well as others within the community."

Read more: 3 years later, Hazleton's controversial immigration case still in legal limbo - News - Standard Speaker

In reviewing the case, the 3rd Circuit affirmed Judge Munley's ruling that both laws were unconstitutional and raised questions whether Hazleton was simply naive in treading onto areas governed by federal law, or making a calculating move at the direction of Mr. Barletta to attack immigration law.

"Whether Hazleton inadvertently stumbled into this exclusively federal domain, or decided to defiantly barge in, it is clear that it has attempted to usurp authority that the Constitution has placed beyond the vicissitudes of local governments," the court said.

Read more: Appeals court upholds Judge Munley's ruling on Hazleton's crackdown on illegal immigration - News - The Times-Tribune

As for the aspect of the law concerning school:

The law doesn’t say schools should turn away students who can’t provide documentation–that would be in blatant violation of the 1982 Supreme Court ruling Plyler v. Doe, which struck down a Texas law that forbade public money going to the education of illegal immigrants. In the Plyler case, the court ruled that fashioning laws to punish children violated the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection under the law.

The court also argued that denying children education would create a permanent “subclass of illiterates” in America, adding to welfare costs and crime. (The law’s creators say they’ve crafted the schools provision with the strictures of Plyler v. Doe in mind, and they think it will pass constitutional muster. Justice Department lawyers recently warned school districts in a letter that any laws that may “discourage” children from enrolling violates Plyler, in their opinion.)

Alabama immigration law pressures schools to check immigration status | MarioWire
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Oh boooooooo hooooooooooo - they gambled on illegal black market labor and lost. Probably some drug dealers were busted today - I'll cry about that, too. :D
 
What Alabama will save on schooling, welfare, crime, hospitals by getting rid of there illegals will be way over a billion dollars
 
Tide turning against the illegal aliens and their leftwing supporters?

In Alabama? You’ve got to be kidding; this reactionary state is hardly representative.

They represent one in a number of states that has passed laws similar to arizona's - and they're all "reactionary" because they don't want to end up like arizona, overrun by illegals? Riiiiiiiiiight. :D

You’re also in error with regard to ‘leftwing’ support of illegal immigration.

No I'm not - leftwingers, including obama, try to overturn every effort to stop the invasion, because they see them as the democrat voters of the future.

You’re confused in that they support case law and the Constitution on the issue, where illegal aliens are entitled to basic due process rights.

Illegally working in this country, let alone illegally invading this country, has absolutel NOTHING to do with rights.

As for the aspect of the law concerning school:

The law doesn’t say schools should turn away students who can’t provide documentation–that would be in blatant violation of the 1982 Supreme Court ruling Plyler v. Doe, which struck down a Texas law that forbade public money going to the education of illegal immigrants. In the Plyler case, the court ruled that fashioning laws to punish children violated the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection under the law.

That is one of the worst decisions of the USSC in recent history, and needs to be overturned.

The court also argued that denying children education would create a permanent “subclass of illiterates” in America, adding to welfare costs and crime.

That claim was beyond stupid. It assumes that the US will do nothing to enforce its borders, allowing in 20 million invaders, a situation that would be tolerated by no other country on earth, and is the root of all the problems.
 
What Alabama will save on schooling, welfare, crime, hospitals by getting rid of there illegals will be way over a billion dollars

I doubt that since those workers were migrants. But it was a nice, if half hearted "try".
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Crop Losses Could Top $1B

Republican policies strike again. The "Policy of Unintended Consequence". Because they govern without thought. It's why their policies are consistent. They constantly fail.

So thats why we should allow illegal aliens to stay in our country. :cuckoo:

All we have to do is make welfare recepients work for their check. Send them to the farms.
 
I am a pretty hard core Progressive out of the muckraking, trust-busting era; and the idea of punishing employers who knowing or laxly hire illegals is part of Progressive mentality. A big, tall fence along the border manned by Iraq and Afgan vets suits me just fine too.

As a Progressive I believe in a social safety net for the working man and no welfare for large corporations and no medicare that goes far beyond the amount the average person paid into the system when working. I also do not believe in a military budget that is higher than that spent by the next 10 countries combined.

I would rather see my tax dollars build a road or upgrade the environment than buy a cruse missle.

If we were not in bed with Israel, do you really think there would have been a 911?
 
Tide turning against the illegal aliens and their leftwing supporters?

In Alabama? You’ve got to be kidding; this reactionary state is hardly representative. You’re also in error with regard to ‘leftwing’ support of illegal immigration. You’re confused in that they support case law and the Constitution on the issue, where illegal aliens are entitled to basic due process rights.

For example:

It also makes it illegal for anyone to knowingly rent housing to illegal immigrants and bans any illegal immigrant from enrolling in any public college after high school.

The former has already been struck down as un-Constitutional:

In his decision, Munley said all people must be protected regardless of their legality.

"The genius of our Constitution is that it provides rights even to those who evoke the least sympathy from the general public," he wrote. "Hazleton, in its zeal to control the presence of a group deemed undesirable, violated the rights of such people, as well as others within the community."

In his decision, Munley said all people must be protected regardless of their legality.

"The genius of our Constitution is that it provides rights even to those who evoke the least sympathy from the general public," he wrote. "Hazleton, in its zeal to control the presence of a group deemed undesirable, violated the rights of such people, as well as others within the community."

Read more: 3 years later, Hazleton's controversial immigration case still in legal limbo - News - Standard Speaker

In reviewing the case, the 3rd Circuit affirmed Judge Munley's ruling that both laws were unconstitutional and raised questions whether Hazleton was simply naive in treading onto areas governed by federal law, or making a calculating move at the direction of Mr. Barletta to attack immigration law.

"Whether Hazleton inadvertently stumbled into this exclusively federal domain, or decided to defiantly barge in, it is clear that it has attempted to usurp authority that the Constitution has placed beyond the vicissitudes of local governments," the court said.

Read more: Appeals court upholds Judge Munley's ruling on Hazleton's crackdown on illegal immigration - News - The Times-Tribune

As for the aspect of the law concerning school:

The law doesn’t say schools should turn away students who can’t provide documentation–that would be in blatant violation of the 1982 Supreme Court ruling Plyler v. Doe, which struck down a Texas law that forbade public money going to the education of illegal immigrants. In the Plyler case, the court ruled that fashioning laws to punish children violated the 14th Amendment, which guarantees equal protection under the law.

The court also argued that denying children education would create a permanent “subclass of illiterates” in America, adding to welfare costs and crime. (The law’s creators say they’ve crafted the schools provision with the strictures of Plyler v. Doe in mind, and they think it will pass constitutional muster. Justice Department lawyers recently warned school districts in a letter that any laws that may “discourage” children from enrolling violates Plyler, in their opinion.)

Alabama immigration law pressures schools to check immigration status | MarioWire

Mr. Jones: I Do value the truth, so thank for the info. Speaking of truth: What is your connection to this issue? I detect a vested interest here.
 
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I am a pretty hard core Progressive out of the muckraking, trust-busting era; and the idea of punishing employers who knowing or laxly hire illegals is part of Progressive mentality. A big, tall fence along the border manned by Iraq and Afgan vets suits me just fine too.

We've been waiting for some pro american-worker democrat to stand up american workers on this issue!
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Crop Losses Could Top $1B

Republican policies strike again. The "Policy of Unintended Consequence". Because they govern without thought. It's why their policies are consistent. They constantly fail.

Good. It will grow back. They can all move to California.
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Crop Losses Could Top $1B

Republican policies strike again. The "Policy of Unintended Consequence". Because they govern without thought. It's why their policies are consistent. They constantly fail.

It is not because of the Georgia law but because illegal aliens do not want to come here just to work in hot dirt fields. H-2A can give Georgia all the legal immigrants they need but they want illegal ones so they can mis-treat them and even pay them less and they cannot complain.http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/h2a.pdf?docID=1621

Passing and enforcing state immigration laws do not affect supply of farm workers. IF they lose billions, so be it, maybe they will now take the legal way to get workers. farmers are not playing by the rules either.
 
You are so right. Look at what happened in Georgia. A billion dollars in crops lost.

The Georgia Agribusiness Council estimates the total loss stemming from spoiled and unpicked produce to be close to $1 billion.

Crop Losses Could Top $1B

Republican policies strike again. The "Policy of Unintended Consequence". Because they govern without thought. It's why their policies are consistent. They constantly fail.

So thats why we should allow illegal aliens to stay in our country. :cuckoo:

All we have to do is make welfare recepients work for their check. Send them to the farms.
:cuckoo:

If welfare recepients worked for their checks they would not be on welfare.
Round them up and take them out of los angels, chicago, new york, etc and take them to farm and house them, etc? Dreamer.
 
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Why would you print something you know is a lie?

Not only can't illegals get welfare, but if someone on welfare is caught housing an illegal, they could lose all their benefits. I've linked to this before.

Damn you guys are dirty. Just lie and lie and lie. I don't get it. Does that make you feel better? To slander and lie? What kind of people are you? Seriously?
 
Why would you print something you know is a lie?

Not only can't illegals get welfare, but if someone on welfare is caught housing an illegal, they could lose all their benefits.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKdUu6zwDiI]‪Obama's Aunt Zeituni Illegal Alien Welfare Case‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
 

Why would you print something you know is a lie?

Not only can't illegals get welfare, but if someone on welfare is caught housing an illegal, they could lose all their benefits. I've linked to this before.

Damn you guys are dirty. Just lie and lie and lie. I don't get it. Does that make you feel better? To slander and lie? What kind of people are you? Seriously?

Not a lie. They are not allowed to ask if the applicants are illegal. They lead in rape and sex with under age girls to. Link it again.
 

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