Three (R) senators holding YOU hostage

Bullshit. The best way to insure the Straits of Hormuz is a key factor is to construct pipelines that bypass it. In National Emergency, extreme steps will be taken to insure best use of what is available here, stop with the Fear Mongering. Keystone is critical to insuring better management of what we have available here. You really need to blindfold yourself to not see the advantages of stepped up, transport, storage, and refining capacity here. You act like us being the World leader in Fuel Sales is a bad thing. How about taking a break from the Kool-Aid.
considering none of the tar sands from the keystone pipeline would actually be used domestically, your argument fails.

and the pipeline itself was not rejected, the proposed route through Nebraska was rejected by the people of Nebraska as well. they are free to propose a new route and apply again. you act like this was vetoed and has no chance of every happening again.

For God's sake, I'm getting tired of posting these links that you liberals ignore. The Nebraska legislature and governor passed a new route for the pipeline back in November. Dear Ruler.......after the State Department had three years to study the pipeline, rejected it in January......a month before the deadline given by Congress. Rather than take the 3 months available to look at the tiny reroute, he said his hands were tied and therewasn't time, so he denied it. What a decisive man Dear Ruler is! What leadership! What a political gamesman!

Here is the proof you don't know what the hell you're talking about.....again.

Nebraska governor signs bills to reroute Keystone pipeline | Reuters

You're welcome.
really a tiny reroute of 110 miles? you think you can study the environmental impact of a 110 mile detour in 3 months?

guess all Nebraska farmers disagreed with you.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/19/us-keystone-opponents-idUSTRE80I05S20120119
notice this artice is from Jan 18, 2012. 2 months after the nebraska governor signed his law.

"Nebraska ranchers celebrated the Obama administration's rejection of the proposed Keystone pipeline on Wednesday as a hardfought victory for the state's environmentally sensitive Sandhills region - even as Republican lawmakers vowed to keep fighting for the project."
"Ben Gotschall, a fourth-generation Sandhills rancher, said pipeline opponents shared the belief that the future safety of land and water and the health and wellness of people and communities were more important than foreign oil profits."

Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone pipeline rejection | MNN - Mother Nature Network

hmmm i guess Obama actually did listen to the people on this. time to update your talking points.

and youre welcome back.
 
considering none of the tar sands from the keystone pipeline would actually be used domestically, your argument fails.

and the pipeline itself was not rejected, the proposed route through Nebraska was rejected by the people of Nebraska as well. they are free to propose a new route and apply again. you act like this was vetoed and has no chance of every happening again.

For God's sake, I'm getting tired of posting these links that you liberals ignore. The Nebraska legislature and governor passed a new route for the pipeline back in November. Dear Ruler.......after the State Department had three years to study the pipeline, rejected it in January......a month before the deadline given by Congress. Rather than take the 3 months available to look at the tiny reroute, he said his hands were tied and therewasn't time, so he denied it. What a decisive man Dear Ruler is! What leadership! What a political gamesman!

Here is the proof you don't know what the hell you're talking about.....again.

Nebraska governor signs bills to reroute Keystone pipeline | Reuters

You're welcome.
really a tiny reroute of 110 miles? you think you can study the environmental impact of a 110 mile detour in 3 months?

guess all Nebraska farmers disagreed with you.
Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone rejection | Reuters
notice this artice is from Jan 18, 2012. 2 months after the nebraska governor signed his law.

"Nebraska ranchers celebrated the Obama administration's rejection of the proposed Keystone pipeline on Wednesday as a hardfought victory for the state's environmentally sensitive Sandhills region - even as Republican lawmakers vowed to keep fighting for the project."
"Ben Gotschall, a fourth-generation Sandhills rancher, said pipeline opponents shared the belief that the future safety of land and water and the health and wellness of people and communities were more important than foreign oil profits."

Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone pipeline rejection | MNN - Mother Nature Network

hmmm i guess Obama actually did listen to the people on this. time to update your talking points.

and youre welcome back.

LMFAO! Mother Nature Network? Gee, I wonder if they have a bias one way or another? Note that you're linked article quotes one, single, solitary rancher. That's what you call "all Nebraska farmers"? And yes, I call 110 miles of a 2,147 mile pipeline tiny. Do I think the federal government could study the environmental impact of 110 miles in 3 months? Well, no.......the federal government under Obama couldn't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back. But evidently the state of Nebraska who had qualms about the original path were satisfied with the new path. Any president who respected the states would have found that good enough.

You're really not very good at this. Perhaps you should hang out over in general discussions and talk about what song you're listening to. :eusa_whistle:
 
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How do three senators hold us hostage for proposing a bill that prevents our emergency oil funds from being depleted? Where do I even begin?

Are you aware that proposing a bill doesn't do anything? In order for a bill to be law, it has to be passed in both houses and signed by the President, unless, of course, they have 2/3s support in both houses.

You're also aware that we have a free market upon which we can purchases oil correct? The strategic reserve is hardly the only source in the world.

Finally, isn't it a bit foolish to deplete an emergency reserve without say... an emergency?
 
How do three senators hold us hostage for proposing a bill that prevents our emergency oil funds from being depleted? Where do I even begin?

Are you aware that proposing a bill doesn't do anything? In order for a bill to be law, it has to be passed in both houses and signed by the President, unless, of course, they have 2/3s support in both houses.

You're also aware that we have a free market upon which we can purchases oil correct? The strategic reserve is hardly the only source in the world.

Finally, isn't it a bit foolish to deplete an emergency reserve without say... an emergency?

Don't you know?

Any threats to 0bama's re-election chances ARE an emergency!

:eek:
 
Senators David Vitter (R-LA), John Hoevan (R-ND), and Richard Lugar (R-IN) introduced the Strategic Petroleum Supplies Act, S. 2100

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

“the Administration shall not authorize a sale of petroleum products from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve… until the date on which all permits necessary … for the Keystone XL pipeline project application filed on September 19, 2008 (including amendments) have been issued.”

So, they're tying Obama's hands in case oil prices spike. They are saying that if Iran causes instability in the price of oil, Obama won't be able to do anything about it unless they get the pipeline first.

Yet another FINE example of how EXPENDABLE the money in YOUR wallet is to RepubliCONZ, as long as they get to stick it to ol Barry and reward their patrons, who cares what happens to American families?

A new pipeline paid from private funds sourcing from a friendly nation,WHEN Iran disrupts supplies would be what?? Real handy to have???
 
The GOP is again showing their true colors. Party over Country...
 
For God's sake, I'm getting tired of posting these links that you liberals ignore. The Nebraska legislature and governor passed a new route for the pipeline back in November. Dear Ruler.......after the State Department had three years to study the pipeline, rejected it in January......a month before the deadline given by Congress. Rather than take the 3 months available to look at the tiny reroute, he said his hands were tied and therewasn't time, so he denied it. What a decisive man Dear Ruler is! What leadership! What a political gamesman!

Here is the proof you don't know what the hell you're talking about.....again.

Nebraska governor signs bills to reroute Keystone pipeline | Reuters

You're welcome.
really a tiny reroute of 110 miles? you think you can study the environmental impact of a 110 mile detour in 3 months?

guess all Nebraska farmers disagreed with you.
Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone rejection | Reuters
notice this artice is from Jan 18, 2012. 2 months after the nebraska governor signed his law.

"Nebraska ranchers celebrated the Obama administration's rejection of the proposed Keystone pipeline on Wednesday as a hardfought victory for the state's environmentally sensitive Sandhills region - even as Republican lawmakers vowed to keep fighting for the project."
"Ben Gotschall, a fourth-generation Sandhills rancher, said pipeline opponents shared the belief that the future safety of land and water and the health and wellness of people and communities were more important than foreign oil profits."

Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone pipeline rejection | MNN - Mother Nature Network

hmmm i guess Obama actually did listen to the people on this. time to update your talking points.

and youre welcome back.

LMFAO! Mother Nature Network? Gee, I wonder if they have a bias one way or another? Note that you're linked article quotes one, single, solitary rancher. That's what you call "all Nebraska farmers"? And yes, I call 110 miles of a 2,147 mile pipeline tiny. Do I think the federal government could study the environmental impact of 110 miles in 3 months? Well, no.......the federal government under Obama couldn't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back. But evidently the state of Nebraska who had qualms about the original path were satisfied with the new path. Any president who respected the states would have found that good enough.

You're really not very good at this. Perhaps you should hang out over in general discussions and talk about what song you're listening to. :eusa_whistle:
guess you overlooked Reuters, the same source you used moron.
 
Senators David Vitter (R-LA), John Hoevan (R-ND), and Richard Lugar (R-IN) introduced the Strategic Petroleum Supplies Act, S. 2100

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

“the Administration shall not authorize a sale of petroleum products from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve… until the date on which all permits necessary … for the Keystone XL pipeline project application filed on September 19, 2008 (including amendments) have been issued.”

So, they're tying Obama's hands in case oil prices spike. They are saying that if Iran causes instability in the price of oil, Obama won't be able to do anything about it unless they get the pipeline first.

Yet another FINE example of how EXPENDABLE the money in YOUR wallet is to RepubliCONZ, as long as they get to stick it to ol Barry and reward their patrons, who cares what happens to American families?

Holding me hostage? Are they using guns? Bombs? Rhetoric?
 
really a tiny reroute of 110 miles? you think you can study the environmental impact of a 110 mile detour in 3 months?

guess all Nebraska farmers disagreed with you.
Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone rejection | Reuters
notice this artice is from Jan 18, 2012. 2 months after the nebraska governor signed his law.

"Nebraska ranchers celebrated the Obama administration's rejection of the proposed Keystone pipeline on Wednesday as a hardfought victory for the state's environmentally sensitive Sandhills region - even as Republican lawmakers vowed to keep fighting for the project."
"Ben Gotschall, a fourth-generation Sandhills rancher, said pipeline opponents shared the belief that the future safety of land and water and the health and wellness of people and communities were more important than foreign oil profits."

Nebraska ranchers see victory in Keystone pipeline rejection | MNN - Mother Nature Network

hmmm i guess Obama actually did listen to the people on this. time to update your talking points.

and youre welcome back.

LMFAO! Mother Nature Network? Gee, I wonder if they have a bias one way or another? Note that you're linked article quotes one, single, solitary rancher. That's what you call "all Nebraska farmers"? And yes, I call 110 miles of a 2,147 mile pipeline tiny. Do I think the federal government could study the environmental impact of 110 miles in 3 months? Well, no.......the federal government under Obama couldn't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back. But evidently the state of Nebraska who had qualms about the original path were satisfied with the new path. Any president who respected the states would have found that good enough.

You're really not very good at this. Perhaps you should hang out over in general discussions and talk about what song you're listening to. :eusa_whistle:
guess you overlooked Reuters, the same source you used moron.

Same exact story idiot. I don't care what agency carried the story, it still only quoted a single solitary rancher which you moronically interpreted to be all Nebraska farmers. :lol: Do you see the problem here? As I said, you really aren't very good at this and need to head over to the general discussions forum. And a -9 neg rep? Seriously? That's like pulling out a one inch pecker and proudly waving it around. The only person it impresses is you and your blow up girlfriend. Come back when you actually got some game.
 
LMFAO! Mother Nature Network? Gee, I wonder if they have a bias one way or another? Note that you're linked article quotes one, single, solitary rancher. That's what you call "all Nebraska farmers"? And yes, I call 110 miles of a 2,147 mile pipeline tiny. Do I think the federal government could study the environmental impact of 110 miles in 3 months? Well, no.......the federal government under Obama couldn't find their ass with both hands tied behind their back. But evidently the state of Nebraska who had qualms about the original path were satisfied with the new path. Any president who respected the states would have found that good enough.

You're really not very good at this. Perhaps you should hang out over in general discussions and talk about what song you're listening to. :eusa_whistle:
guess you overlooked Reuters, the same source you used moron.

Same exact story idiot. I don't care what agency carried the story, it still only quoted a single solitary rancher which you moronically interpreted to be all Nebraska farmers. :lol: Do you see the problem here? As I said, you really aren't very good at this and need to head over to the general discussions forum. And a -9 neg rep? Seriously? That's like pulling out a one inch pecker and proudly waving it around. The only person it impresses is you and your blow up girlfriend. Come back when you actually got some game.
wing nut logic.......

Reuters is good because it said the governor signed off on the keystone pipeline
Reuters is bad because it said farmers are glad the pipeline was delayed.

didnt read this part did you?

At the same time, many landowners in central Nebraska, where the pipeline would have run through a portion of a sensitive aquifer, cheered the pipeline's rejection, which looks almost certain to become a key political issue in the upcoming presidential campaign.

The rejection was "a major victory for the environment and for the people of the state of Nebraska," Nebraska Sierra Club lobbyist Ken Winston said, adding that the pipeline was pushed by "short-term profiteering and bad energy policies."

CENSORED NEWS: Rally in Nebraska to Stop Keystone Pipeline
CENSORED NEWS: State of Nebraska protested for cutting deal for Keystone pipeline
Oil and water don't mix in Nebraska debate over pipeline | Reuters
Keystone XL Pipeline Protest At The White House: Colorful Scenes From The Crowd (VIDEO)


"By law, the governor now has the final say in state government on the new route." - from your article
guess the governor decided on this unilaterally. thats socialism!! :lol:
 
“Due to the rising price of oil and gas, the Obama administration announced today they are considering dipping into our national strategic re-election reserves. I mean, I’m sorry — strategic oil reserves.” –Jay Leno
 
guess you overlooked Reuters, the same source you used moron.

Same exact story idiot. I don't care what agency carried the story, it still only quoted a single solitary rancher which you moronically interpreted to be all Nebraska farmers. :lol: Do you see the problem here? As I said, you really aren't very good at this and need to head over to the general discussions forum. And a -9 neg rep? Seriously? That's like pulling out a one inch pecker and proudly waving it around. The only person it impresses is you and your blow up girlfriend. Come back when you actually got some game.
wing nut logic.......

Reuters is good because it said the governor signed off on the keystone pipeline
Reuters is bad because it said farmers are glad the pipeline was delayed.

didnt read this part did you?

At the same time, many landowners in central Nebraska, where the pipeline would have run through a portion of a sensitive aquifer, cheered the pipeline's rejection, which looks almost certain to become a key political issue in the upcoming presidential campaign.

The rejection was "a major victory for the environment and for the people of the state of Nebraska," Nebraska Sierra Club lobbyist Ken Winston said, adding that the pipeline was pushed by "short-term profiteering and bad energy policies."

CENSORED NEWS: Rally in Nebraska to Stop Keystone Pipeline
CENSORED NEWS: State of Nebraska protested for cutting deal for Keystone pipeline
Oil and water don't mix in Nebraska debate over pipeline | Reuters
Keystone XL Pipeline Protest At The White House: Colorful Scenes From The Crowd (VIDEO)


"By law, the governor now has the final say in state government on the new route." - from your article
guess the governor decided on this unilaterally. thats socialism!! :lol:

All of this from a person who has said that by using "TUNNELING MACHINES" and by directional drilling, we can move crude oil through an east - west pipeline. Course, I had to point out to Syphon that directional drilling has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with pipelines and the use of a tunneling machine was sheer fantasy, since any tunnel would have to go through the rockies and the Sierra Madres.

If you are a tree-hugging, hand-wringing, environmentalist who just wants us to go back to horse and buggies, then just say so. When you try and talk energy policy with the adults, you just look really UNINFORMED...
 
Same exact story idiot. I don't care what agency carried the story, it still only quoted a single solitary rancher which you moronically interpreted to be all Nebraska farmers. :lol: Do you see the problem here? As I said, you really aren't very good at this and need to head over to the general discussions forum. And a -9 neg rep? Seriously? That's like pulling out a one inch pecker and proudly waving it around. The only person it impresses is you and your blow up girlfriend. Come back when you actually got some game.
wing nut logic.......

Reuters is good because it said the governor signed off on the keystone pipeline
Reuters is bad because it said farmers are glad the pipeline was delayed.

didnt read this part did you?

At the same time, many landowners in central Nebraska, where the pipeline would have run through a portion of a sensitive aquifer, cheered the pipeline's rejection, which looks almost certain to become a key political issue in the upcoming presidential campaign.

The rejection was "a major victory for the environment and for the people of the state of Nebraska," Nebraska Sierra Club lobbyist Ken Winston said, adding that the pipeline was pushed by "short-term profiteering and bad energy policies."

CENSORED NEWS: Rally in Nebraska to Stop Keystone Pipeline
CENSORED NEWS: State of Nebraska protested for cutting deal for Keystone pipeline
Oil and water don't mix in Nebraska debate over pipeline | Reuters
Keystone XL Pipeline Protest At The White House: Colorful Scenes From The Crowd (VIDEO)


"By law, the governor now has the final say in state government on the new route." - from your article
guess the governor decided on this unilaterally. thats socialism!! :lol:

All of this from a person who has said that by using "TUNNELING MACHINES" and by directional drilling, we can move crude oil through an east - west pipeline. Course, I had to point out to Syphon that directional drilling has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with pipelines and the use of a tunneling machine was sheer fantasy, since any tunnel would have to go through the rockies and the Sierra Madres.

If you are a tree-hugging, hand-wringing, environmentalist who just wants us to go back to horse and buggies, then just say so. When you try and talk energy policy with the adults, you just look really UNINFORMED...
actually directional drilling has a lot to do with pipeline construction you idiot.
RIGZONE - Oil & Gas Directory - Directional Drilling
Directional Drilling | Microtunnelling - HDD
"Horizontal directional drilling offers minimal environmental disturbance during project construction and Mersing Construction & Engineering Sdn Bhd has achieved a high level of technical acceptance within the industry. Depending on soil conditions, our drilling rigs have the capacity to drill up to lengths of 2000m with a diameter of 1000mm. Directional drilling has been used to install pipelines carrying oil, natural gas, petrochemicals, water, sewerage and other products as well as conduits for utility services, electric and fibre optic cables under rivers, busy streets, highways, railroads, airport runways, shore approaches, islands, areas congested with buildings, pipeline corridors, future water channels and other locations where trenchless installation methods are applicable. Engineering excellence, technical innovation and in-depth experience have resulted in the development by the Company of such advanced applications of directional drilling technology."


your knowledge of pipeline construction is sorely lacking.
here is more on tunneling:
tunnelmachines.com - Tunnelling Machines - Tunnelling Equipment
Proposed Oil Pipeline Would Tunnel Beneath Lake | Chem.Info

"The 12-inch pipeline would run for 36 miles from Enbridge's Beaver Lodge pumping station southeast of Tioga to a location east of Watford City, in McKenzie County.
Oil production is booming in the region, and the project will give producers easier access to pipeline shipping and reduce truck traffic, said Katie Haarsager, an Enbridge spokeswoman in Minot, N.D.
Enbridge is capable of shipping 235,000 barrels of oil daily. North Dakota's current production is just over 500,000 barrels a day, according to the state Department of Mineral Resources."
Haarsager said the company's proposal includes a 2.1-mile section of pipeline beneath the lake. It is likely to be buried 50 to 150 feet beneath the riverbed, she said.
She said a horizontal directional drilling process, similar to one used in oil production, would be used to bore a hole in the earth and literally pull the pipe through. The pipeline's walls will also be thicker than a conventional pipeline, in part because of the location beneath the lake, she said.

now that youve seen what happens with the big boys, maybe you can try to keep up.

http://wilderness.org/files/Directional-Drilling.pdf
 
wing nut logic.......

Reuters is good because it said the governor signed off on the keystone pipeline
Reuters is bad because it said farmers are glad the pipeline was delayed.

didnt read this part did you?

At the same time, many landowners in central Nebraska, where the pipeline would have run through a portion of a sensitive aquifer, cheered the pipeline's rejection, which looks almost certain to become a key political issue in the upcoming presidential campaign.

The rejection was "a major victory for the environment and for the people of the state of Nebraska," Nebraska Sierra Club lobbyist Ken Winston said, adding that the pipeline was pushed by "short-term profiteering and bad energy policies."

CENSORED NEWS: Rally in Nebraska to Stop Keystone Pipeline
CENSORED NEWS: State of Nebraska protested for cutting deal for Keystone pipeline
Oil and water don't mix in Nebraska debate over pipeline | Reuters
Keystone XL Pipeline Protest At The White House: Colorful Scenes From The Crowd (VIDEO)


"By law, the governor now has the final say in state government on the new route." - from your article
guess the governor decided on this unilaterally. thats socialism!! :lol:

All of this from a person who has said that by using "TUNNELING MACHINES" and by directional drilling, we can move crude oil through an east - west pipeline. Course, I had to point out to Syphon that directional drilling has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with pipelines and the use of a tunneling machine was sheer fantasy, since any tunnel would have to go through the rockies and the Sierra Madres.

If you are a tree-hugging, hand-wringing, environmentalist who just wants us to go back to horse and buggies, then just say so. When you try and talk energy policy with the adults, you just look really UNINFORMED...
actually directional drilling has a lot to do with pipeline construction you idiot.
RIGZONE - Oil & Gas Directory - Directional Drilling
Directional Drilling | Microtunnelling - HDD
"Horizontal directional drilling offers minimal environmental disturbance during project construction and Mersing Construction & Engineering Sdn Bhd has achieved a high level of technical acceptance within the industry. Depending on soil conditions, our drilling rigs have the capacity to drill up to lengths of 2000m with a diameter of 1000mm. Directional drilling has been used to install pipelines carrying oil, natural gas, petrochemicals, water, sewerage and other products as well as conduits for utility services, electric and fibre optic cables under rivers, busy streets, highways, railroads, airport runways, shore approaches, islands, areas congested with buildings, pipeline corridors, future water channels and other locations where trenchless installation methods are applicable. Engineering excellence, technical innovation and in-depth experience have resulted in the development by the Company of such advanced applications of directional drilling technology."


your knowledge of pipeline construction is sorely lacking.
here is more on tunneling:
tunnelmachines.com - Tunnelling Machines - Tunnelling Equipment
Proposed Oil Pipeline Would Tunnel Beneath Lake | Chem.Info

"The 12-inch pipeline would run for 36 miles from Enbridge's Beaver Lodge pumping station southeast of Tioga to a location east of Watford City, in McKenzie County.
Oil production is booming in the region, and the project will give producers easier access to pipeline shipping and reduce truck traffic, said Katie Haarsager, an Enbridge spokeswoman in Minot, N.D.
Enbridge is capable of shipping 235,000 barrels of oil daily. North Dakota's current production is just over 500,000 barrels a day, according to the state Department of Mineral Resources."
Haarsager said the company's proposal includes a 2.1-mile section of pipeline beneath the lake. It is likely to be buried 50 to 150 feet beneath the riverbed, she said.
She said a horizontal directional drilling process, similar to one used in oil production, would be used to bore a hole in the earth and literally pull the pipe through. The pipeline's walls will also be thicker than a conventional pipeline, in part because of the location beneath the lake, she said.

now that youve seen what happens with the big boys, maybe you can try to keep up.

http://wilderness.org/files/Directional-Drilling.pdf

Really, just stop. I mean sincerely, from one person to another, when you have NO IDEA of what you're talking about, you should just stop. Remember that we're talking about an EAST - WEST CRUDE OIL PIPELINE ACROSS THE ROCKIES.

1. Directional drilling has to do with DRILLING at a well site. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH A PIPELINE ACROSS THE ROCKIES. The first link you gave is a list of companies who do directional drilling and the second shows that yes, from a well site you can drill several miles in almost any direction.

2. 2.1 miles under a lake is NOT 1,000 MILES ACROSS THE ROCKIES.

Let me guess... you're related to TruthMatters. I'm getting really EMBARRASSED for you...
 
All of this from a person who has said that by using "TUNNELING MACHINES" and by directional drilling, we can move crude oil through an east - west pipeline. Course, I had to point out to Syphon that directional drilling has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with pipelines and the use of a tunneling machine was sheer fantasy, since any tunnel would have to go through the rockies and the Sierra Madres.

If you are a tree-hugging, hand-wringing, environmentalist who just wants us to go back to horse and buggies, then just say so. When you try and talk energy policy with the adults, you just look really UNINFORMED...
actually directional drilling has a lot to do with pipeline construction you idiot.
RIGZONE - Oil & Gas Directory - Directional Drilling
Directional Drilling | Microtunnelling - HDD
"Horizontal directional drilling offers minimal environmental disturbance during project construction and Mersing Construction & Engineering Sdn Bhd has achieved a high level of technical acceptance within the industry. Depending on soil conditions, our drilling rigs have the capacity to drill up to lengths of 2000m with a diameter of 1000mm. Directional drilling has been used to install pipelines carrying oil, natural gas, petrochemicals, water, sewerage and other products as well as conduits for utility services, electric and fibre optic cables under rivers, busy streets, highways, railroads, airport runways, shore approaches, islands, areas congested with buildings, pipeline corridors, future water channels and other locations where trenchless installation methods are applicable. Engineering excellence, technical innovation and in-depth experience have resulted in the development by the Company of such advanced applications of directional drilling technology."


your knowledge of pipeline construction is sorely lacking.
here is more on tunneling:
tunnelmachines.com - Tunnelling Machines - Tunnelling Equipment
Proposed Oil Pipeline Would Tunnel Beneath Lake | Chem.Info

"The 12-inch pipeline would run for 36 miles from Enbridge's Beaver Lodge pumping station southeast of Tioga to a location east of Watford City, in McKenzie County.
Oil production is booming in the region, and the project will give producers easier access to pipeline shipping and reduce truck traffic, said Katie Haarsager, an Enbridge spokeswoman in Minot, N.D.
Enbridge is capable of shipping 235,000 barrels of oil daily. North Dakota's current production is just over 500,000 barrels a day, according to the state Department of Mineral Resources."
Haarsager said the company's proposal includes a 2.1-mile section of pipeline beneath the lake. It is likely to be buried 50 to 150 feet beneath the riverbed, she said.
She said a horizontal directional drilling process, similar to one used in oil production, would be used to bore a hole in the earth and literally pull the pipe through. The pipeline's walls will also be thicker than a conventional pipeline, in part because of the location beneath the lake, she said.

now that youve seen what happens with the big boys, maybe you can try to keep up.

http://wilderness.org/files/Directional-Drilling.pdf

Really, just stop. I mean sincerely, from one person to another, when you have NO IDEA of what you're talking about, you should just stop. Remember that we're talking about an EAST - WEST CRUDE OIL PIPELINE ACROSS THE ROCKIES.

1. Directional drilling has to do with DRILLING at a well site. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH A PIPELINE ACROSS THE ROCKIES. The first link you gave is a list of companies who do directional drilling and the second shows that yes, from a well site you can drill several miles in almost any direction.

2. 2.1 miles under a lake is NOT 1,000 MILES ACROSS THE ROCKIES.

Let me guess... you're related to TruthMatters. I'm getting really EMBARRASSED for you...
actually no, directional drilling is not vertical drilling, it is horizontal as is shown on the mersing website. guess you didnt actually look at it, so here it is.

p14.jpg


how did i know you were gonna bring up the distance. if you actually know what you were talking about, you would know that you need to dig drilling pits at certain intervals to remove equipment and start a new run. you wouldnt make a single run that long, you would never be able to pull pipe at a distance like that. you can however pull pipe at a distance of 2000m or approx 6500 feet. 1.24 miles.

the canadian rockies at their widest point at 901 miles in distance. not exactly a short distance, but not an unobtainable distance. but this would not require any type of new engineering marvel.

you know youre really an embarrassment to the pipeline construction industry. even a rookie pipelayer would know about these types of construction methods.
 
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