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wrong, not ever in our historyNot since WW1 at least...
Patriot Act? FISA? Those don't limit our civil liberties?
Unless you can accurately predict the future you can't say it will never happen. But I do agree that it would have been difficult for Dr. Paul to pull that one off if he were to have won the Presidency.
so You Have No Problems With Warrantless Wiretaps? No Problems With The Government Reading Your E-mail? No Problem With Them Obtaining Your Library Records? No Problem That All This Goes Against The Fourth Amendment?
So you have no problems with warrantless wiretaps? No problems with the government reading your e-mail? No problem with them obtaining your library records? No problem that all this goes against the fourth amendment?
having worked in the communications industry, i can tell you there is no such thing as a "secure email" and business that does business on email is a business doomed to failSo you have no problems with warrantless wiretaps? No problems with the government reading your e-mail? No problem with them obtaining your library records? No problem that all this goes against the fourth amendment?
not only didn't Ben Franklin ever say that, you even have the actual quote that is attributed to him wrong
not only didn't Ben Franklin ever say that, you even have the actual quote that is attributed to him wrong
its "essential liberty" for "temporary security"
the wikiquote does address the issueHmm..
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. by Benjamin Franklin
I assume you mean this:
Benjamin Franklin - Wikiquote
Same point being made though. No matter which way you spin it.
the wikiquote does address the issue
and no, they aren't the same
what essential liberty has been given up?
NONE
so?????
so?????
i LIKE it when anarchist get arrested when they do damage to people and property
i have a feeling she isnt giving you the full storyI like it when people who commit crimes get arrested too but all she did was ask for a warrant.
i have a feeling she isnt giving you the full story
how can one person ever have the full storyIf that is the full story, then what?
how can one person ever have the full story
and i'll side with the police till she can PROVE otherwiseWell one side says their story, the other side says their story.
Usually if you take half of a story and another half, you get a full story.
Though I think you mean how can one person ever have the truth of a full story. It all depends on whom you believe and the evidence represented.
At the moment, I'm siding with her until the police can prove otherwise.
and i'll side with the police till she can PROVE otherwise
because i have no doubt, the police will be able to prove their side
did i say "always"?
It was to address his stance on the issues, and a launching pad for his new organization, the Campaign for Liberty. It was also for he and his supporters to have a little fun, I wish I had been there. We need more politicians like Ron Paul in America.
Yes, it's uber-whacko to think that limited government, non-interventionism, and sound money are better alternatives to our current system...
