Thousands of honor killings a year

[xotoxi]

Actually, I read every post in this thread and in none of them has anyone said "HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!"

Until now...

HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!

Well GEE xo... we'll just have to REWARD you for that major act of COURAGE...

And I am still the only person to have said it.

I see that you have not agreed with me...I guess that means that honor killings are sometimes acceptable in your book.

 

[Colin]

OH... well it's settled then... honor killings are OK since muslims do them because of their culture and not islam.

Where did she say honour killings are OK? Where did I say honour killings are ok?

Where did either of you say they're NOT OK?

You appear to be defending the practice, since there's no condemnation on your part.

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

 

[Madeline]

"The term “liberal fascism” comes from a speech made by author H. G. Wells when he told a group of Young Liberals at Oxford that Progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.”

"“Many modern liberals and leftists act as if they know exactly what fascism is. What’s more, they see it everywhere—except when they look in the mirror,” Goldberg’s book reads. “Indeed, the left wields the term like a cudgel to beat opponents from the square like seditious pamphleteers.”

"...liberals hold political principles which are similar to those found in many fascist regimes. They have a desire to form a powerful state which coordinates a society where everybody belongs and everyone is taken care of; where there is faith in the perfectibility of people and the authority of experts; and where everything is political, including health and well-being. Apparently, the Nazis were strong promoters of organic foods and animal rights, fought against large department stores, and promoted antismoking and public health drives.

“The Nazi war on smoking would make Michael Bloomberg’s heart jump,” Goldberg jokingly said."

"In the 1920s, fascist ideas were popular among the American left as many saw Italian Fascism as a “worthwhile experiment.” The German version that emerged in the 1930s had considerably less appeal.

“The American left essentially picked a different team—the Red team,” Goldberg writes, “and as such swore fealty to communist talking points about fascism.”

At the same time, Joseph Stalin, the General Secretary of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, found it beneficial to label all ideas which he did not agree with as fascist; this included socialists who were disloyal to Moscow and, of course, the political right. Those loyal to his social doctrine also began to see communism and fascism on opposite ends when, as Goldberg asserts, both are in fact socialist in nature. "

Liberal Fascism Explained :: Accuracy In Academia

Just because some wingnut linked the two concepts together does not make them compatible, Allie. "Liberalism" is a fluid concept, but I take it to me (in general) greater concern for the citizen than for Big Business, equal rights for all regardless of (insert laundry list of attributes here), etc. None of these characteristics describes modern China.

 

[xotoxi]

The little neighbor boy just left his make believe doctor office in his moms basement, so he's between patients...

Ad hominems...Pale's only skill.

Lurking... xo's favorite trick.

Yep...just like God and Santa.

 

[007]

Actually, I read every post in this thread and in none of them has anyone said "HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!"

Until now...

HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!

Well GEE xo... we'll just have to REWARD you for that major act of COURAGE...

And I am still the only person to have said it.

I see that you have not agreed with me...I guess that means that honor killings are sometimes acceptable in your book.

Where did I point to other honor killings as a form of dismissal?

You liberals will go to great lengths to spin and distort an issue in some weird form of justifying it. You're all islam coddlers and this is no different. Honor killings come with islam, so in your twisted way you have to make it look as though EVERYBODY does honor killings, not just muslims. Thing is though most here can see through the games you people play, and playing games is your first and foremost function here xo, and I don't have to point that out to anyone. They can see that from practically everything you post. The majority of it sophomoric gibberish.

 

[Madeline]

Actually, I read every post in this thread and in none of them has anyone said "HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!"

Until now...

HONOR KILLINGS ARE AN ABOMINATION!

Well GEE xo... we'll just have to REWARD you for that major act of COURAGE...

And I am still the only person to have said it.

I see that you have not agreed with me...I guess that means that honor killings are sometimes acceptable in your book.

Well for fuck's sake, xotoxi, no one on USMB approves of murder. No one approves of criminalizing consensual sex acts between adults. Do we have to announce such POVs for fear of being misunderstood?

 

[xotoxi]

Well GEE xo... we'll just have to REWARD you for that major act of COURAGE...

And I am still the only person to have said it.

I see that you have not agreed with me...I guess that means that honor killings are sometimes acceptable in your book.

Where did I point to other honor killings as a form of dismissal?

You liberals will go to great lengths to spin and distort an issue in some weird form of justifying it. You're all islam coddlers and this is no different. Honor killings come with islam, so in your twisted way you have to make it look as though EVERYBODY does honor killings, not just muslims. Thing is though most here can see through the games you people play, and playing games is your first and foremost function here xo, and I don't have to point that out to anyone. They can see that from practically everything you post. The majority of it sophomoric gibberish.

You are brave enough to comment on my games...after "assuming" that Colin and CAGirl supported honor killings just a few posts before.

RICH!

 

[007]

Where did she say honour killings are OK? Where did I say honour killings are ok?

Where did either of you say they're NOT OK?

You appear to be defending the practice, since there's no condemnation on your part.

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

The FACT of the matter is, MUSLIMS COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS! Still want to deflect away from that FACT just because other people do it too?

Why is it people have this strange idea that pointing to another wrong helps them win a debate? All you're doing is deflecting away from the topic at hand, as if you lack focus.

 

[xotoxi]

Well for fuck's sake, xotoxi, no one on USMB approves of murder. No one approves of criminalizing consensual sex acts between adults. Do we have to announce such POVs for fear of being misunderstood?

After Pale Rider concluded that Colin and CAGirl think that muslim honor killings are OK, then I would have to say...YES.

 

[007]

And I am still the only person to have said it.

I see that you have not agreed with me...I guess that means that honor killings are sometimes acceptable in your book.

Where did I point to other honor killings as a form of dismissal?

You liberals will go to great lengths to spin and distort an issue in some weird form of justifying it. You're all islam coddlers and this is no different. Honor killings come with islam, so in your twisted way you have to make it look as though EVERYBODY does honor killings, not just muslims. Thing is though most here can see through the games you people play, and playing games is your first and foremost function here xo, and I don't have to point that out to anyone. They can see that from practically everything you post. The majority of it sophomoric gibberish.

You are brave enough to comment on my games...after "assuming" that Colin and CAGirl supported honor killings just a few posts before.

RICH!

I don't lurk and play kiddie games, you do.

 

[xotoxi]

Where did I point to other honor killings as a form of dismissal?

You liberals will go to great lengths to spin and distort an issue in some weird form of justifying it. You're all islam coddlers and this is no different. Honor killings come with islam, so in your twisted way you have to make it look as though EVERYBODY does honor killings, not just muslims. Thing is though most here can see through the games you people play, and playing games is your first and foremost function here xo, and I don't have to point that out to anyone. They can see that from practically everything you post. The majority of it sophomoric gibberish.

You are brave enough to comment on my games...after "assuming" that Colin and CAGirl supported honor killings just a few posts before.

RICH!

I don't lurk and play kiddie games, you do.

Yes you do.

 

[007]

Well for fuck's sake, xotoxi, no one on USMB approves of murder. No one approves of criminalizing consensual sex acts between adults. Do we have to announce such POVs for fear of being misunderstood?

After Pale Rider concluded that Colin and CAGirl think that muslim honor killings are OK, then I would have to say...YES.

When that topic comes up, and again there's another group of you liberals saying that consensual sex acts are criminal in other countries and cultures, yes, you are absolutely correct. Finally a fraction of comprehension from you.

 

[Madeline]

Where did either of you say they're NOT OK?

You appear to be defending the practice, since there's no condemnation on your part.

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

The FACT of the matter is, MUSLIMS COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS! Still want to deflect away from that FACT just because other people do it too?

Why is it people have this strange idea that pointing to another wrong helps them win a debate? All you're doing is deflecting away from the topic at hand, as if you lack focus.

What the fuck is your point, Pale? That we should not allow homicidal maniacs to get US visas? I agree 100%. That we need to close every mosque in the US and arrest all the Imams and prohibit any group of people from following Islam in order to prevent honor killings? I will never agree to that.

We do not criminalize thought in this country.

Yanno, guys, it's like 3 weeks until the election and I seem to be doing nothing but arguing with people who fear Islam. We are not talking about how to fix our economy, or provide reasonable regulation of business, or fix our broken election system.....all things that actually affect us all and that we could have an impact on in November.

Why is this?

 

[Coyote]

They have a huge population of Muslims, regardless of the fact they also have a huge number of Hindu and Christian.

Check the facts.

Hindus are 80.5%
Muslims are 13.5 %

Honor killings are on the rise among the Hindu population, in part due to the clash of modern culture with traditional values: India's Nirupama Pathak Case Raises Honor-Killing Debate - TIME

In that sense, it's not to different from traditional Islamic societies and a number of other societies that treat women as property.

 

[Colin]

Where did either of you say they're NOT OK?

You appear to be defending the practice, since there's no condemnation on your part.

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

The FACT of the matter is, MUSLIMS COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS! Still want to deflect away from that FACT just because other people do it too?

Why is it people have this strange idea that pointing to another wrong helps them win a debate? All you're doing is deflecting away from the topic at hand, as if you lack focus.

Oh yeh. Tell you what mate. Your crystal ball is broken. You want to invent what I think, Just carry on since it pleases you. Makes you the fool, not me.

 

[007]

You are brave enough to comment on my games...after "assuming" that Colin and CAGirl supported honor killings just a few posts before.

RICH!

I don't lurk and play kiddie games, you do.

Yes you do.

And there's some more of your liberalism. Go ahead son, repeat it fifty times and the whole world will believe you... pfft... ...

 

[007]

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

The FACT of the matter is, MUSLIMS COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS! Still want to deflect away from that FACT just because other people do it too?

Why is it people have this strange idea that pointing to another wrong helps them win a debate? All you're doing is deflecting away from the topic at hand, as if you lack focus.

Oh yeh. Tell you what mate. Your crystal ball is broken. You want to invent what I think, Just carry on since it pleases you. Makes you the fool, not me.

All you have to do to see what kind of a shitty mess muslims can create is look out your window... MATE.

I'm just one voice among many from across the pond that's saying we don't want or need that shit here in America.

 

[xotoxi]

Well for fuck's sake, xotoxi, no one on USMB approves of murder. No one approves of criminalizing consensual sex acts between adults. Do we have to announce such POVs for fear of being misunderstood?

After Pale Rider concluded that Colin and CAGirl think that muslim honor killings are OK, then I would have to say...YES.

When that topic comes up, and again there's another group of you liberals saying that consensual sex acts are criminal in other countries and cultures, yes, you are absolutely correct. Finally a fraction of comprehension from you.

I have no idea what you just said.

 

[xotoxi]

I don't lurk and play kiddie games, you do.

Yes you do.

And there's some more of your liberalism. Go ahead son, repeat it fifty times and the whole world will believe you... pfft... ...

I don't know what was liberal about me saying that you engage in kiddie games.

You said it about me.

 

[007]

No! You are putting words into my mouth! I simply point out the facts. Jeez! You amaze me! Honour killings are cultural not religious. FACT. These crimes are committed by Hindus and Sikhs as well as Muslims. FACT. In fact they are very much a middle eastern and south Asian practise. Also, you will see that in my previous post, I referred to them as a crime. I do not condone any crime. Still wanna put words in my mouth?

The FACT of the matter is, MUSLIMS COMMIT HONOR KILLINGS! Still want to deflect away from that FACT just because other people do it too?

Why is it people have this strange idea that pointing to another wrong helps them win a debate? All you're doing is deflecting away from the topic at hand, as if you lack focus.

What the fuck is your point, Pale? That we should not allow homicidal maniacs to get US visas? I agree 100%. That we need to close every mosque in the US and arrest all the Imams and prohibit any group of people from following Islam in order to prevent honor killings? I will never agree to that.

We do not criminalize thought in this country.

Yanno, guys, it's like 3 weeks until the election and I seem to be doing nothing but arguing with people who fear Islam. We are not talking about how to fix our economy, or provide reasonable regulation of business, or fix our broken election system.....all things that actually affect us all and that we could have an impact on in November.

Why is this?

Well what the fuck is your point Maddie? Given full knowledge that muslims carry out honor killings as well as other bloody atrocities as part of their culture/religion, you think that we should just all throw our doors open and give muslims the key to all our cities, elect them as officials and let them enact sharia law? You'd be good with America looking like Iran?