Thousands In Britain Left To Go Blind Due To Eye Surgery Rationing

Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?


You can always consider offering a gratuity to the politician or his bureaucrat flunky. Sure, it may be against the law, but if its a serious enough need why not? The worst thing that can happen is you end up in the can and get priority for the medical treatment as a convict.
 
The reality is Single payer will ration surgeries and you will be forced under a system similar to the V.A. and if passed you deserve this but I will just head to Mexico for my medical needs.

People are doing that now. As much as you guys whine about the few dozen Canadians who come here for treatment, thousands of Americans go South for treatments their insurance won't cover.

Funny thing about the VA. We really didn't have a problem with it until some idiots decided to fight a 17 year war against an emotional state.


You are confused Moon Bat.

It is not a few dozen Canadians. It is many of them.

I lived in a city near the Canadian border for seven years.

The doctor's offices in the area were filled with Canadians coming there to get treatment.

Canadian socialized medicine sucked and they would tell you that. They would rather drive a distance cross a border and pay for US health care than get that Canadian free stuff.

Socialism always sucks. Socialized medicine really sucks.

You greedy stupid Moon Bats are simply too damned absorbed with your zeal to get somebody else to pay your bills that have trouble understand that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


If there is a disagreement with the insurance company in regards to what is covered and what is not, the matter can be referred to the courts
 
Nobody is going blind in the UK
Your cataract has to progress to a certain level before you can receive surgery
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


If there is a disagreement with the insurance company in regards to what is covered and what is not, the matter can be referred to the courts
If you disagree with a decision by universal healthcare, you can appeal to your congressman
Medicare has appeal procedures
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


If there is a disagreement with the insurance company in regards to what is covered and what is not, the matter can be referred to the courts
If you disagree with a decision by universal healthcare, you can appeal to your congressman
Medicare has appeal procedures


A congressman will offer you a pain pill and call you a deplorable. I don't see that as any better than 12 angry men hearing the evidence.
 
No its not. You WANT death panels, not choice. Death panels are not what we have.
Old people have many options for healthcare.
You and joe are just fucking liars

Okay, couple problems here. We ALREADY have Death Panels. Just ask Nataline Sarkisyan, a 19 year old girl who was denied a liver transplant because Cigna didn't want to pay for it.

Yes, Old people have many options, paid for by the government. You think that big insurance would insure old people on their own?

At least with private insurance companies, premium payers have an opportunity to actually sue them and see them in court if they disagree with a decision not to pay. There is no way to realistically sue a government bureaucrat.

Sure there is. You go to his boss, an elected politician, who doesn't want to be the guy who denied a heart transplant to a little kid. Insurance companies don't care.
Guess what dumbfuck?
Old people had insurance way back then before big brother got involved. You know, your corrupt savior?
Stop with your lies. Good fuckin grief!
An insurance company denying a plan arent govt death panels. You are comparing apples to an iphone.
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well


LOL

Medicare will be INSOLVENT by 2026, how does that add up to "working very well"?
 
No its not. You WANT death panels, not choice. Death panels are not what we have.
Old people have many options for healthcare.
You and joe are just fucking liars

Okay, couple problems here. We ALREADY have Death Panels. Just ask Nataline Sarkisyan, a 19 year old girl who was denied a liver transplant because Cigna didn't want to pay for it.

Yes, Old people have many options, paid for by the government. You think that big insurance would insure old people on their own?

At least with private insurance companies, premium payers have an opportunity to actually sue them and see them in court if they disagree with a decision not to pay. There is no way to realistically sue a government bureaucrat.

Sure there is. You go to his boss, an elected politician, who doesn't want to be the guy who denied a heart transplant to a little kid. Insurance companies don't care.
Guess what dumbfuck?
Old people had insurance way back then before big brother got involved. You know, your corrupt savior?
Stop with your lies. Good fuckin grief!
An insurance company denying a plan arent govt death panels. You are comparing apples to an iphone.
Actually, they didn’t

You work for an employer who provides your health insurance. When you retired, they dropped your coverage
Now, you are 65, probably have a preexisting condition and need to apply for insurance on an open market. What type of rate are they going to offer you?
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well


LOL

Medicare will be INSOLVENT by 2026, how does that add up to "working very well"?
I have heard that fear mongering my entire life
Medicare is fine
 
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Funny thing about the VA. We really didn't have a problem with it until some idiots decided to fight a 17 year war against an emotional state.

You are confused Moon Bat.

Funny thing about the VA is that it has never provided good service. In fact veterans have died waiting to get treated because government bureaucrats didn't give a shit about them.

Great example of what socialized medicine in the US would be like but it probably would be much worse.

A few years ago I had cancer. I could have got it treated by the VA for free.

If I would have gone to the VA it would have taken well over a year to get the inefficient "no give a shit" system to diagnose and treat and I would have had to take whatever they gave me.

Instead I paid a sizeable deduction on my insurance and had it treated privately. It was treated quickly and efficiently. No cancer today.

I had three "for profit" heath facilities vying for my business and the one I chose was very good. I know you stupid Commie Moon Bats hate it but Capitalism works.

The government sucks. Socialized medicine really sucks. Picture the DMV taking care of your health.
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well

You are confused Moon Bat.

No it don't and it is bankrupting the budget. We are over $21 trillion in debt thanks to stupid government programs like Medicare. It is not the only thing contributing to the massive debt but it a major contributor.
 
No its not. You WANT death panels, not choice. Death panels are not what we have.
Old people have many options for healthcare.
You and joe are just fucking liars

Okay, couple problems here. We ALREADY have Death Panels. Just ask Nataline Sarkisyan, a 19 year old girl who was denied a liver transplant because Cigna didn't want to pay for it.

Yes, Old people have many options, paid for by the government. You think that big insurance would insure old people on their own?

At least with private insurance companies, premium payers have an opportunity to actually sue them and see them in court if they disagree with a decision not to pay. There is no way to realistically sue a government bureaucrat.

Sure there is. You go to his boss, an elected politician, who doesn't want to be the guy who denied a heart transplant to a little kid. Insurance companies don't care.
Guess what dumbfuck?
Old people had insurance way back then before big brother got involved. You know, your corrupt savior?
Stop with your lies. Good fuckin grief!
An insurance company denying a plan arent govt death panels. You are comparing apples to an iphone.
Actually, they didn’t

You work for an employer who provides your health insurance. When you retired, they dropped your coverage
Now, you are 65, probably have a preexisting condition and need to apply for insurance on an open market. What type of rate are they going to offer you?
Nope. Around half of seniors had healthcare. They instituted Medicare because a lot if seniors couldnt afford it. Not because there were no plans for them.
Goddamn liars. Or ignorant. Ill accept either one.
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well

You are confused Moon Bat.

No it don't and it is bankrupting the budget. We are over $21 trillion in debt thanks to stupid government programs like Medicare. It is not the only thing contributing to the massive debt but it a major contributor.
We owe our $21 Trillion debt to supply side economics

Medicare is not included in that debt
 
Create socialized medicine.

Put stupid bueracrats (that who don't give a shit about you), whose bosses are corrupt politicians, elected by special interest groups, in charge of you health care.

What could possibly go wrong?
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well

You are confused Moon Bat.

No it don't and it is bankrupting the budget. We are over $21 trillion in debt thanks to stupid government programs like Medicare. It is not the only thing contributing to the massive debt but it a major contributor.
We owe our $21 Trillion debt to supply side economics

Medicare is not included in that debt

Actually, we owe the $21 Trillion in debt to financing the failed War on Poverty that the libs have been waging. Time, IMHO, to cut and run.
 
You could have greedy insurers driven by maximizing profit deciding your healthcare


You idiot.

I would much rather put my health care in the hands of somebody trying to offer a service for a profit than an asshole union government worker that doesn't give a shit about anything except taking off work early.
Medicare works very well

You are confused Moon Bat.

No it don't and it is bankrupting the budget. We are over $21 trillion in debt thanks to stupid government programs like Medicare. It is not the only thing contributing to the massive debt but it a major contributor.
We owe our $21 Trillion debt to supply side economics

Medicare is not included in that debt

Actually, we owe the $21 Trillion in debt to financing the failed War on Poverty that the libs have been waging. Time, IMHO, to cut and run.
Paying money to help people who are struggling is wise policy
Paying money to wage wars ten thousand miles away is not
 

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