THis will not stand

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    Making a Us citizen do something against their will should be intolerable for anyone. It violates your freedom and the people who jammed this down our throats are going to pay in every way. I've been told that I have to get insurace well you can go fuck yourself. I am a free person and not a slave of the government.
     
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    While I do believe this Bill is the first step in creating a Euro-trash socialist system, the Bill in its current state actually REWARDS the "insurance cartels," as Bgfrn called insurance companies. I mean, you have to buy insurance, isn't that encouraging them to keep going?!

    But being forced to buy a product when there's no Constitutional grounds (of any kind) is abominable.
     
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    Excuse me , but hasn't auto insurance been mandatory (i.e.-the law, you will buy it) for years?

    hasn't Workers Comp also been mandatory for years?

    On that note, did you know that WC is mandatory , even if you have ZERO workers, and because the executive officers of a type S corp can be the only de facto 'workers' , and sign off on themselves the policy is mandatory , AND effectively covers nobody in the company?

    Perhaps if some of you flag waving freedom loving Americans could delve into the past debacles of big insurance legislating itself into what you suddenly precieve as corporate totaltarianism , you'd be better prepared to comment on it

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    Well I know two posters who have been sucked in by bullshit :)
     
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    It'll stand.

    You might get away with not buying HC insurance, but generally, this law is the law of the land.

    If you get a paycheck from an employer, you're going to have a hard time NOT paying for HC insurance.


    Maybe, if you're a self employed type, and you cheat on your taxes, you MIGHT get away with it.

    Until you get sick, of course.
     
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    If you do a little research you will find that it was the republicans that first came up with the insurance mandate.:eusa_whistle:
     
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    You must be laboring under a false impression that you're free or something like that. Here is a short list of things that Americans are forced to do against their will.

    1. Wear seatbelts
    2. Wear motorcycle helments (in some states)
    3. Participate in social security.
    4. Participate in medicare
    5. Pay taxes
    6. Buy drivers licenses
    7. Buy any occupational license
    8. Finance wars (for the anti-war crowd)



    And those are just off the cuff. Americans being forced to do things against their will is part and parcel of the history of the US and any other nation that has aspirations of being more than a neighborhood.
     
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    Because it came from the insurance companies. Anybody with half a brain and who even half azzed understands the ponzi scheme that is insurance knows that the bigger the pool the more successful the insurance plan. The biggest possible pool occurs when it's mandated that everyone particpates.
     
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    Specious Comparisons.

    The requirement for auto insurance involves Liability Coverage in case one causes harm to others as a condition for sharing the public roads. One is not required to cover insurance for harm to oneself.

    Worker's comp is insurance for being hurt on the job - for which one give up one's right to sue. It is income insurance while one cannot work - and involves the worker actually engaging in an activity to apply (working). (I'm not a supporter of this piece of big government lobbying efforts which causes individuals to give up rights.)

    Mandating health insurance is forcing someone who is inactive (opting out) into action merely because that person is alive in America. That person's mere existence causes no threat to others (unlike sharing a road) - nor is there any activity similar to working to trigger a quid pro quo.
     
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    Well here is where your point as so many like to bring up, is 100% wrong and invalid. Auto insurance is required only if you DECIDE you want to drive a car. The feds don't force you to drive, and they don't require you to start a company, therefor nobody is required to buy auto insurance or pay WC.

    Only people that CHOOSE to drive or CHOOSE to start a company must pay. Nobody is required to buy a car or start a company.

    My sister-in-law lives in New York and takes the bus everywhere and does not need a car. She does not drive at all and does not have a DL. This Bill would be like telling her that even though she does not drive or even own a car or even have a DL, she needs to pay a car insurance premium every month to cover someone else that has a car and drives. How is that American?
     
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