This will be controversial

[HereWeGoAgain]

Every vegan I know is sickly.

Then you don’t get out much. There are a fast growing amount of vegan athletes, vegan bodybuilders, runners, etc. You’re going by outdated, lame info.

I read back in the 1980s Stallone was a strict veggie guy..

But I love steak..

.

I completely get it. I used to love meat so much that I distinctly remember saying “I could never be vegetarian or vegan.” The funny thing is, pretty much every vegan says that exact same thing. And most vegans (at least the ones who do it for the animals) later say it was the best decision they ever made.

Not eating meat is the stupidest movement the world has ever seen.
It's purely based on emotion.

No, it absolutely is not. You are so wrong. Animal agriculture is horrible for the environment and is probably the biggest thing killing the planet. Here’s an article for you to read: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impactThis is not my -on-earth

Then you have the health aspect… cancer and heart disease are epidemics. It’s how people eat! This is not my opinion, there are tons of studies to back up the link between animal products and problems like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. If you have Netflix, watch Forks Over Knives. Also watch the documentary What the Health?

You’ve got it backwards. There are numerous good, logical, compelling reasons to go to a plant-based diet. And NO valid reasons to eat meat. People eat meat because of tradition/ habit/ tastebuds. That’s pretty much it. So what is based on emotion is continuing to do something that is detrimental in numerous ways, just because you like the taste.

Man was meant to be omnivores.
They teach that in elementary school fer fuks sake!

 

[boedicca]

I find posting Vegan Porn with a disclaimer to be beyond the pale.

Your bizarre description is what is beyond the pale. Are you denying that it’s the reality? Or is it that you prefer that the ugly reality remains hidden? If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world. But that’s entirely your prerogative.

I'm saying it's disgusting, exploitive and dishonest to post Vegan Porn (or anything NSFW, violent, etc.) without a disclaimer for the content.

Shame on you.

 

[buttercup]

Low energy, dark circles under their eyes.....sickly.

I’m sorry to hear you have those things. Maybe you should try adding more fresh foods to your diet, instead of corpses?

As for vegans, I’m just gonna copy-pasta what I posted on another thread.


Pro surfer Tia Blanco

Kristina Carrillo-Bucaram (@fullyrawkristina)

Bianca Taylor



Nimai Delgado (vegetarian since birth, vegan since 2015)

Jon Venus

YOVANA MENDOZA (@rawvana)

Carly Taylor (@carlytaylor269)

Nina and Randa (vegans since birth)

Kalel

Hannah Hagler

I could post more, but just get past your hate and get out more. And don’t forget to eat more fiber! With all those dead things rotting inside your body, you gotta move it out somehow!

 

[boedicca]

Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that our original design was to eat a plant-based diet.

no it does not

We were talking about man’s original design

no, you're trying to revise it all through biblical revisionism

So, be a vegan is you wish, but it is so tiresome to listen to Vegans go on and on in such a disingenuous and sanctimonious manner.

If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world

Most of you will never interview your dinner

Most of you will never kill anything

But most of you WILL lead a lifestye completely surrounded by organics inherent in our culture far and beyond simple dietary choices

It's YOU who live in a dream world

~S~

Wait, aren’t you an atheist or agnostic? There is no debate about what mankind‘s original diet was, according to Genesis. Some people might be confused because in some translations the word “meat” is used, but in biblical days, the word meat meant simply food. The word “flesh” typically referred to what we now call “meat.” ( Dead animal carcasses.)

You sad little moron. Humans are omnivore apes. Our brains developed due to high levels of protein in the diet. It is natural and healthy for us to eat animal based protein.

Do you insist that other animals such as dogs and cats should be forced to be vegans?

 

[buttercup]

I find posting Vegan Porn with a disclaimer to be beyond the pale.

Your bizarre description is what is beyond the pale. Are you denying that it’s the reality? Or is it that you prefer that the ugly reality remains hidden? If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world. But that’s entirely your prerogative.

I'm saying it's disgusting, exploitive and dishonest to post Vegan Porn (or anything NSFW, violent, etc.) without a disclaimer for the content.

Shame on you.

I still think your use of that phrase is disgusting. But I am genuinely sorry about not posting a warning first. I did post that it was controversial in the title, but I guess that was vague.

 

[boedicca]

I find posting Vegan Porn with a disclaimer to be beyond the pale.

Your bizarre description is what is beyond the pale. Are you denying that it’s the reality? Or is it that you prefer that the ugly reality remains hidden? If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world. But that’s entirely your prerogative.

I'm saying it's disgusting, exploitive and dishonest to post Vegan Porn (or anything NSFW, violent, etc.) without a disclaimer for the content.

Shame on you.

I still think your use of that phrase is disgusting. But I am genuinely sorry about not posting a warning first. I did post that it was controversial in the title, but I guess that was vague.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Mmm, I see you brought dinner in your avatar!


It's getting to be rabbit season.

Also, you were right about it being Noah when meat-eating began. A mere 8

chapters later in Genesis.

Genesis 9 KJV

 

[buttercup]

Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that our original design was to eat a plant-based diet.

no it does not

We were talking about man’s original design

no, you're trying to revise it all through biblical revisionism

So, be a vegan is you wish, but it is so tiresome to listen to Vegans go on and on in such a disingenuous and sanctimonious manner.

If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world

Most of you will never interview your dinner

Most of you will never kill anything

But most of you WILL lead a lifestye completely surrounded by organics inherent in our culture far and beyond simple dietary choices

It's YOU who live in a dream world

~S~

Wait, aren’t you an atheist or agnostic? There is no debate about what mankind‘s original diet was, according to Genesis. Some people might be confused because in some translations the word “meat” is used, but in biblical days, the word meat meant simply food. The word “flesh” typically referred to what we now call “meat.” ( Dead animal carcasses.)

You sad little moron. Humans are omnivore apes. Our brains developed due to high levels of protein in the diet. It is natural and healthy for us to eat animal based protein.

Do you insist that other animals such as dogs and cats should be forced to be vegans?

If you identify as an ape, I won’t stop you. But speak for yourself, I have an entirely different worldview.

And I’m sorry to break it to you, but animal protein is not healthy, especially when people overdo it, which most westerners do. I noticed on another thread that like most people, you’re a big bacon fan. It is classified as a type one carcinogen, did you know that?

Not everyone agrees that humans are omnivores by design. We act as omnivores of course. But watch this video:

 

[buttercup]

Then you don’t get out much. There are a fast growing amount of vegan athletes, vegan bodybuilders, runners, etc. You’re going by outdated, lame info.

I read back in the 1980s Stallone was a strict veggie guy..

But I love steak..

.

I completely get it. I used to love meat so much that I distinctly remember saying “I could never be vegetarian or vegan.” The funny thing is, pretty much every vegan says that exact same thing. And most vegans (at least the ones who do it for the animals) later say it was the best decision they ever made.

Not eating meat is the stupidest movement the world has ever seen.
It's purely based on emotion.

No, it absolutely is not. You are so wrong. Animal agriculture is horrible for the environment and is probably the biggest thing killing the planet. Here’s an article for you to read: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impactThis is not my -on-earth

Then you have the health aspect… cancer and heart disease are epidemics. It’s how people eat! This is not my opinion, there are tons of studies to back up the link between animal products and problems like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. If you have Netflix, watch Forks Over Knives. Also watch the documentary What the Health?

You’ve got it backwards. There are numerous good, logical, compelling reasons to go to a plant-based diet. And NO valid reasons to eat meat. People eat meat because of tradition/ habit/ tastebuds. That’s pretty much it. So what is based on emotion is continuing to do something that is detrimental in numerous ways, just because you like the taste.

Man was meant to be omnivores.
They teach that in elementary school fer fuks sake!

Yeah, government schools teach us a lot of things that turn out to not be true at all. The sooner you realize that, the better.

 

[Marion Morrison]

On any given Sunday @ my friend's BBQ:

You get 1/2 a chicken + 1-2 slices of pork roast, with a side of hamburgers or hotdogs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I read back in the 1980s Stallone was a strict veggie guy..

But I love steak..

.

I completely get it. I used to love meat so much that I distinctly remember saying “I could never be vegetarian or vegan.” The funny thing is, pretty much every vegan says that exact same thing. And most vegans (at least the ones who do it for the animals) later say it was the best decision they ever made.

Not eating meat is the stupidest movement the world has ever seen.
It's purely based on emotion.

No, it absolutely is not. You are so wrong. Animal agriculture is horrible for the environment and is probably the biggest thing killing the planet. Here’s an article for you to read: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impactThis is not my -on-earth

Then you have the health aspect… cancer and heart disease are epidemics. It’s how people eat! This is not my opinion, there are tons of studies to back up the link between animal products and problems like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. If you have Netflix, watch Forks Over Knives. Also watch the documentary What the Health?

You’ve got it backwards. There are numerous good, logical, compelling reasons to go to a plant-based diet. And NO valid reasons to eat meat. People eat meat because of tradition/ habit/ tastebuds. That’s pretty much it. So what is based on emotion is continuing to do something that is detrimental in numerous ways, just because you like the taste.

Man was meant to be omnivores.
They teach that in elementary school fer fuks sake!

Yeah, government schools teach us a lot of things that turn out to not be true at all. The sooner you realize that, the better.

Cute and smart?

.

 

[boedicca]

Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that our original design was to eat a plant-based diet.

no it does not

We were talking about man’s original design

no, you're trying to revise it all through biblical revisionism

So, be a vegan is you wish, but it is so tiresome to listen to Vegans go on and on in such a disingenuous and sanctimonious manner.

If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world

Most of you will never interview your dinner

Most of you will never kill anything

But most of you WILL lead a lifestye completely surrounded by organics inherent in our culture far and beyond simple dietary choices

It's YOU who live in a dream world

~S~

Wait, aren’t you an atheist or agnostic? There is no debate about what mankind‘s original diet was, according to Genesis. Some people might be confused because in some translations the word “meat” is used, but in biblical days, the word meat meant simply food. The word “flesh” typically referred to what we now call “meat.” ( Dead animal carcasses.)

You sad little moron. Humans are omnivore apes. Our brains developed due to high levels of protein in the diet. It is natural and healthy for us to eat animal based protein.

Do you insist that other animals such as dogs and cats should be forced to be vegans?

If you identify as an ape, I won’t stop you. But speak for yourself, I have an entirely different worldview.

And I’m sorry to break it to you, but animal protein is not healthy, especially when people overdo it, which most westerners do. I noticed on another thread that like most people, you’re a big bacon fan. It is classified as a type one carcinogen, did you know that?

Not everyone agrees that humans are omnivores by design. We act as omnivores of course. But watch this video:

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I read back in the 1980s Stallone was a strict veggie guy..

But I love steak..

.

I completely get it. I used to love meat so much that I distinctly remember saying “I could never be vegetarian or vegan.” The funny thing is, pretty much every vegan says that exact same thing. And most vegans (at least the ones who do it for the animals) later say it was the best decision they ever made.

Not eating meat is the stupidest movement the world has ever seen.
It's purely based on emotion.

No, it absolutely is not. You are so wrong. Animal agriculture is horrible for the environment and is probably the biggest thing killing the planet. Here’s an article for you to read: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impactThis is not my -on-earth

Then you have the health aspect… cancer and heart disease are epidemics. It’s how people eat! This is not my opinion, there are tons of studies to back up the link between animal products and problems like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. If you have Netflix, watch Forks Over Knives. Also watch the documentary What the Health?

You’ve got it backwards. There are numerous good, logical, compelling reasons to go to a plant-based diet. And NO valid reasons to eat meat. People eat meat because of tradition/ habit/ tastebuds. That’s pretty much it. So what is based on emotion is continuing to do something that is detrimental in numerous ways, just because you like the taste.

Man was meant to be omnivores.
They teach that in elementary school fer fuks sake!

Yeah, government schools teach us a lot of things that turn out to not be true at all. The sooner you realize that, the better.

LOL...

How Humans Evolved To Be Natural Omnivores

Sorry Vegans: Here's How Meat-Eating Made Us Human

I particularly like the comment under the photo.....

Are we supposed to be vegetarian?

 

[Hossfly]

It's true, we kill animals and eat them.

Thanks for missing the point. The entire system is evil, damaging on a number of levels, barbaric and completely unnecessary. I am more interested in getting people who love animals yet pay for their abuse and torture to take the red pill. I’m not interested in getting people like you to care. But thanks for your input.

I bet that kid in your Avi ate that turkey.......after chopping it's head off and laughing hysterically while it ran around bouncing off of tree trunks.

I've seen chickens fly over the barn after getting their head chopped off.

 

[buttercup]

Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that our original design was to eat a plant-based diet.

no it does not

We were talking about man’s original design

no, you're trying to revise it all through biblical revisionism

So, be a vegan is you wish, but it is so tiresome to listen to Vegans go on and on in such a disingenuous and sanctimonious manner.

If you honestly think that meat comes from happy animals grazing in green meadows, willingly giving their lives to have their throats slit, then you are living in a dream world

Most of you will never interview your dinner

Most of you will never kill anything

But most of you WILL lead a lifestye completely surrounded by organics inherent in our culture far and beyond simple dietary choices

It's YOU who live in a dream world

~S~

Wait, aren’t you an atheist or agnostic? There is no debate about what mankind‘s original diet was, according to Genesis. Some people might be confused because in some translations the word “meat” is used, but in biblical days, the word meat meant simply food. The word “flesh” typically referred to what we now call “meat.” ( Dead animal carcasses.)

You sad little moron. Humans are omnivore apes. Our brains developed due to high levels of protein in the diet. It is natural and healthy for us to eat animal based protein.

Do you insist that other animals such as dogs and cats should be forced to be vegans?

If you identify as an ape, I won’t stop you. But speak for yourself, I have an entirely different worldview.

And I’m sorry to break it to you, but animal protein is not healthy, especially when people overdo it, which most westerners do. I noticed on another thread that like most people, you’re a big bacon fan. It is classified as a type one carcinogen, did you know that?

Not everyone agrees that humans are omnivores by design. We act as omnivores of course. But watch this video:

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I’m amazed you can post that with a straight face after your posts to me. You sure as hell can dish it out, but evidently you can’t take it. I really do prefer to have a civil discussion. So if you want to try to do that, I’m in. But if it’s going to be more name-calling and unnecessary combativeness, then no thanks.

 

[Marion Morrison]

no it does not


no, you're trying to revise it all through biblical revisionism

Most of you will never interview your dinner

Most of you will never kill anything

But most of you WILL lead a lifestye completely surrounded by organics inherent in our culture far and beyond simple dietary choices

It's YOU who live in a dream world

~S~

Wait, aren’t you an atheist or agnostic? There is no debate about what mankind‘s original diet was, according to Genesis. Some people might be confused because in some translations the word “meat” is used, but in biblical days, the word meat meant simply food. The word “flesh” typically referred to what we now call “meat.” ( Dead animal carcasses.)

You sad little moron. Humans are omnivore apes. Our brains developed due to high levels of protein in the diet. It is natural and healthy for us to eat animal based protein.

Do you insist that other animals such as dogs and cats should be forced to be vegans?

If you identify as an ape, I won’t stop you. But speak for yourself, I have an entirely different worldview.

And I’m sorry to break it to you, but animal protein is not healthy, especially when people overdo it, which most westerners do. I noticed on another thread that like most people, you’re a big bacon fan. It is classified as a type one carcinogen, did you know that?

Not everyone agrees that humans are omnivores by design. We act as omnivores of course. But watch this video:

View attachment 229895

I’m amazed you can post that with a straight face after your posts to me. You sure as hell can dish it out, but evidently you can’t take it. I really do prefer to have a civil discussion. So if you want to try to do that, I’m in. But if it’s going to be more name-calling and unnecessary combativeness, then no thanks.

Reooowwwrr! Catfight!

 

[buttercup]

On any given Sunday @ my friend's BBQ:

You get 1/2 a chicken + 1-2 slices of pork roast, with a side of hamburgers or hotdogs.

Like I said before, I get it. I was probably just as big a meat eater as you are, and I loved barbecue too. But for me, it was like a paradigm shift, now I see the whole thing in an entirely different way.

Here’s a little video I made recently, looking at things from a different perspective. Take a look if you have a few minutes.

 

[Correll]

Reality is sometimes ugly, but it’s better to know the truth and respond to it one way or the other, rather than perpetually live in dream world.
GRAPHIC VIDEO

If God didn't want us to eat animals, he should not have made them out of meat.

 

[buttercup]

Reality is sometimes ugly, but it’s better to know the truth and respond to it one way or the other, rather than perpetually live in dream world.
GRAPHIC VIDEO

If God didn't want us to eat animals, he should not have made them out of meat.

Humans are made out of meat too. And according to cannibals, human meat tastes a lot like pork.

Btw, thank you for adding that warning to the video. But I have to say… It’s always amazing to me that people can be SO offended / horrified by the imagery, to the point of refusing to look at it, yet not by the actual act or those industries overall.

If it’s too horrible to even look at, then how can those same people support it with their dollars?

 

[Marion Morrison]

On any given Sunday @ my friend's BBQ:

You get 1/2 a chicken + 1-2 slices of pork roast, with a side of hamburgers or hotdogs.

Like I said before, I get it. I was probably just as big a meat eater as you are, and I loved barbecue too. But for me, it was like a paradigm shift, now I see the whole thing in an entirely different way.

Here’s a little video I made recently, looking at things from a different perspective. Take a look if you have a few minutes.

I'm not watching that. I've killed many a thing and eaten it. I detest watching anything suffer or fear, though.

So no, I'm not watching that. Never in my life have I desired to work in a slaughterhouse.