This Puts It All To Rest For Me!

[Marion Morrison]

The "Green New Deal"

 

[SSDD]

Are you saying that they are NOT dedicated to road building and repair?

F-ing TROLL

That is precisely what I am saying...if road taxes were dedicated, the money would be sitting there waiting to be spent and when a project is planned, the money would be there for it and no bond issue would be necessary to pay for road building projects...

 

[Crick]

Gasoline taxes, road taxes, tolls and use taxes do not suffice to pay for roads and their maintenance. There are no spare funds from those revenues.


Road tax - Wikipedia
United States
Each state requires an annual registration fee which varies from state to state.[22]

Additionally, in some states, counties and/or municipalities are allowed to also impose a vehicle tax. For example, in Illinois, Cook County taxes vehicles that are registered in unincorporated areas, and a number of municipalities have their own annual vehicle registration fee. In Massachusetts, the excise tax is billed separately from registration fees, by the town or city in which the vehicle is registered, and was set at a fixed rate of 2.5% statewide by a 1980 law called Proposition 2½. Within some states, the fees may vary from county to county, as some counties have surcharges per vehicle. An example of this is Virginia's personal property tax. The state of New York, on the other hand, charges a tax based on the vehicle's weight, rather than on its value, which is charged at the time of registration renewal.[citation needed]

In California and New Hampshire, the registration tax is calculated by the current value of the vehicle. As a result, older and more inexpensive vehicles will have a low registration fee, whereas newer and more expensive vehicles will have fees in the hundreds of dollars.

There is also a Federal Highway Use tax for vehicles with gross weights of 55,000 pounds or more, including trucks, trucks, truck tractors and buses. Generally, vans, pickup trucks, panel trucks and the like are not subject to this tax. The tax does not apply to vehicles that are used for 5,000 miles or less (7,500 miles or less for agricultural vehicles) on public highways during a tax period.


Who Pays for Roads? | Frontier Group
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

Many Americans believe that drivers pay the full cost of the roads they use through gas taxes and other user fees. That has never been true, and it is less true now than at any other point in modern times.

Today, general taxes paid by all taxpayers cover nearly as much of the cost of building and maintaining highways as the gas tax and other fees paid by drivers. The purchasing power of gasoline taxes has declined as a result of inflation, improved vehicle fuel economy, and the recent stagnation in driving. As a result, so-called “user fees” cover a shrinking share of transportation costs.

The time has come for policy-makers to recognize something that has been true for years, but is especially true today: we all pay for America’s roads.

Short-term funding patches – even modest increases in the gas tax – won’t change that. Nor will they be enough to enable America to achieve a 21st century transportation system. Doing so will require bold rethinking of how we raise transportation money and how we spend it in the years to come.

Roads don’t pay for themselves.

• Nearly as much of the cost of building and maintaining highways now comes from general taxes such as income and sales taxes (plus additional federal debt) as comes from gasoline taxes or other “user fees” on drivers. General taxes accounted for $69 billion of highway spending in 2012.
• Roads pay for themselves less and less over time. In the 1960s and early 1970s, gas taxes and other fees on drivers covered more than 70 percent of the costs of highway construction and maintenance. The share of transportation costs covered by gasoline taxes is likely to continue to decline as a result of inflation, more fuel-efficient cars, and slower growth in driving.

Mapping How U.S. States Pay for Roads - CityLab

 

[Blues Man]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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Dude, sooner or later those that choose to follow it will have to pass laws to make it possible

 

[Crick]

There is no need for laws to attempt to create every iota of the package precisely as initially envisioned. It is nothing more than a guideline pointing us to a new set of priorities: the welfare of all vice the welfare of the wealthy and powerful.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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Dude, sooner or later those that choose to follow it will have to pass laws to make it possible

No. Because if they decided to take it from non binding status and create it into law, it would have to go through Congress again, and be voted on and passed, and then sent to the president for signing.

You conservatives are freaking out over nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

So the new green deal is even a bigger scam than we thought. Earth is going to end in 12 years. Can we at least agree that that claim is totally false? That Ocasio-Cortez has no clue what she is talking about?

Insist on the functional demo, first!

 

[miketx]

It’s called aspirational, biker. Another word for bullshit.

You might think that, but I consider aspirations to be goals to be worked towards. When I joined the military, I had serious aspirations of making higher rank, so that is what I worked for, and achieved.

I look at this in the same way. While we won't be able to get rid of all fossil fuels, wouldn't it be a good idea to try to set our sights on those goals, to make a better place for all of us?

If humans didn't aspire to better things, we'd still be living in caves and mud huts, still being hunter/gatherers.

If you liberals have your way well be starving in 15 years.

 

[Crick]

What do you think will make us starve?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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It is the democrat version of the Communist manifesto.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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A non binding resolution. So when the Dimwitocraps start forcing everyone to either go green or be put in jail, we can tell them to fuck off?

The Stalinist democrats intend to disarm us first, so that any resistance to the hell on earth they plan will be futile.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are you saying that they are NOT dedicated to road building and repair?

F-ing TROLL

In California virtually ALL gas taxes are stolen by the democrats and used for social welfare. Laws only matter if they are obeyed. democrats are not subject to laws, so laws are irrelevant.

 

[Crick]

Road taxes in California only pay for 61.8% of the coast of building and maintaining its roads. The rest are covered out of general revenue. It would be easier to take funds from general revenue than from road taxes. As far as redirecting road tax funds I find this from The Sacramento newspaper: Who’s telling the truth about California’s gas tax money?

The allegation is misleading. It’s true that California governors and lawmakers – of both parties – borrowed heavily from transportation-related accounts after the dot-com bust and during the recession. But the amount of borrowing never amounted to the $5.2 billion a year this package would produce. And most of the money has been paid back. The rest would be paid back in three years if the package is approved.

 

[Blues Man]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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Dude, sooner or later those that choose to follow it will have to pass laws to make it possible

No. Because if they decided to take it from non binding status and create it into law, it would have to go through Congress again, and be voted on and passed, and then sent to the president for signing.

You conservatives are freaking out over nothing.

So you think it's completely impossible for any of that shit in the so called Green New Deal to be made into law?

That's worse than naive

 

[Uncensored2008]

Road taxes in California only pay for 61.8% of the coast of building and maintaining its roads. The rest are covered out of general revenue. It would be easier to take funds from general revenue than from road taxes. As far as redirecting road tax funds I find this from The Sacramento newspaper: Who’s telling the truth about California’s gas tax money?

The allegation is misleading. It’s true that California governors and lawmakers – of both parties – borrowed heavily from transportation-related accounts after the dot-com bust and during the recession. But the amount of borrowing never amounted to the $5.2 billion a year this package would produce. And most of the money has been paid back. The rest would be paid back in three years if the package is approved.

California does not maintain or fix the roads. The Communists ruling California steal every last dime.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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Conservatives don't care about facts and the truth.

 

[Crick]

Not all of them, but wrt AGW, enough to them to have elected the idiot Donald Trump.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dude.......................you really need to learn what the Green New Deal really is. It's not a law that Congress passed that has to be followed, but rather a non binding resolution (Congress passes those all the time), that is more a guide work to try to follow. And, because it's a non binding resolution, it can be followed or not by whoever chooses to or not.
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Conservatives don't care about facts and the truth.