This is why minimum wage hikes simply don't work

[airplanemechanic]

At this fast food drive through, the person taking your order might not be a person at all

Now they have automated fast food drive thru order takers. The classic American job is being taken over by robots. You can't just say "pay these people 15 an hour or else" because the "or else" is "or else a robot can do it for a fraction of the cost and without bathroom breaks or attitude."

So now you go from a minimum wage job to no job at all. Which is better?

 

[Moonglow]

Automation will occur with or without wage rates increasing.

 

[airplanemechanic]

But charging businesses more money for labor with no increase in the value of the labor will speed that process along.

It's called incentive.

 

[Muhammed]

At this fast food drive through, the person taking your order might not be a person at all

Now they have automated fast food drive thru order takers. The classic American job is being taken over by robots. You can't just say "pay these people 15 an hour or else" because the "or else" is "or else a robot can do it for a fraction of the cost and without bathroom breaks or attitude."

So now you go from a minimum wage job to no job at all. Which is better?

If they have satisfactory technology, they will automate regardless of the minimum wage.

 

[airplanemechanic]

At this fast food drive through, the person taking your order might not be a person at all

Now they have automated fast food drive thru order takers. The classic American job is being taken over by robots. You can't just say "pay these people 15 an hour or else" because the "or else" is "or else a robot can do it for a fraction of the cost and without bathroom breaks or attitude."

So now you go from a minimum wage job to no job at all. Which is better?

If they have satisfactory technology, they will automate regardless of the minimum wage.

See post 3.

 

[Penelope]

But charging businesses more money for labor with no increase in the value of the labor will speed that process along.

It's called incentive.

Companies in reality don't give a rip about the person, if they can save money, they will. No holidays, no sick kids, no health ins, just a turn up now and then.

 

[william the wie]

But charging businesses more money for labor with no increase in the value of the labor will speed that process along.

It's called incentive.

And there are several burger and fries machines being developed already. Logistics, cleaning and currency machines are still dicey. Also in most world markets labor is still relatively cheap.

 

[ConservativeAmerica]

Automation will occur with or without wage rates increasing.

The willingness and speediness of places of business to adopt automation will be determined by the financial benefit of doing so. And if you're demanding they pay some zero-skill worker $15/hour to perform zero-skill labor, that willingness and speediness is going to be greatly increased, and those people are going to be out of a job in a hurry.

That $15/hour pay will be nice . . . for the whole week they get to enjoy it while their robotic replacements are being installed.

 

[Moonglow]

Automation will occur with or without wage rates increasing.

The willingness and speediness of places of business to adopt automation will be determined by the financial benefit of doing so. And if you're demanding they pay some zero-skill worker $15/hour to perform zero-skill labor, that willingness and speediness is going to be greatly increased, and those people are going to be out of a job in a hurry.

That $15/hour pay will be nice . . . for the whole week they get to enjoy it while their robotic replacements are being installed.

Like I said no matter how much they earn automation will occur-duh. They could pay them zero and they wouldn't take away their gas fired grills which is easier to maintain than an open fire like they did before automatic fires warmed a grill.......

 

[Moonglow]

The biggest reason for automation is ease, efficiency and no taxes to be paid to SS or UE.

 

[airplanemechanic]

If it costs more to hire a teen to do the job than a robot, the teen will be out of work. Simple as that.

 

[Moonglow]

No surprise, the reason for automation is the increase of productivity with minimal labor man hours cost.

 

[Chuz Life]

I still ascribe to the original thoughts and reasons for why minimum raise hikes don't work.

It's very simple.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit.

Anything that cuts into a company's profits (including their costs for labor) must be offset with price increases to the consumers of that company's products and services, in order for the company to survive.

Therefore, any hike in wages is an indirect tax on all consumers.

 

[OnePercenter]

I still ascribe to the original thoughts and reasons for why minimum raise hikes don't work.

It's very simple.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit.

Anything that cuts into a company's profits (including their costs for labor) must be offset with price increases to the consumers of that company's products and services, in order for the company to survive.

Therefore, any hike in wages is an indirect tax on all consumers.

The purpose of a business is to make a profit.

Wrong. The purpose of business is to solve problems.

 

[OnePercenter]

No surprise, the reason for automation is the increase of productivity with minimal labor man hours cost.

How does this increase productivity? Think about it; A store has one person that takes the order, takes your money, gives change, and fills you order. How does this automated ordering machine reduce employees?

 

[TomParks]

They will put a tax on automation.....politicians wont lose tax revenue on lost jobs

 

[OnePercenter]

They will put a tax on automation.....politicians wont lose tax revenue on lost jobs

On it's way!

 

[busybee01]

At this fast food drive through, the person taking your order might not be a person at all

Now they have automated fast food drive thru order takers. The classic American job is being taken over by robots. You can't just say "pay these people 15 an hour or else" because the "or else" is "or else a robot can do it for a fraction of the cost and without bathroom breaks or attitude."

So now you go from a minimum wage job to no job at all. Which is better?

You people are no different. You think that manufacturing jobs will magically come back to the US and pay high wages. Look at hat happened to Carrier. They decided to not go to Mexico after a sweetheart deal from Indiana and automated the plant, and laid off most of the workforce. You can't force wages up artificially and the left and the far left and far right need to learn that.

 

[Defiant1]

But charging businesses more money for labor with no increase in the value of the labor will speed that process along.

It's called incentive.

Companies in reality don't give a rip about the person, if they can save money, they will. No holidays, no sick kids, no health ins, just a turn up now and then.

Companies aren't in business to give people jobs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

No surprise, the reason for automation is the increase of productivity with minimal labor man hours cost.

How does this increase productivity? Think about it; A store has one person that takes the order, takes your money, gives change, and fills you order. How does this automated ordering machine reduce employees?

uhm we don't know......

maybe have a machine.......

take your order

gives change

and fills your order?







welcome to the 20th century!!!!!

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