This is what all Ron Paul supporters need to understand:

[pvsi.]

They control the opposition by leading it

Ron Paul is a mainstream candidate in my opinion because he was allowed into all the GOP debates, he gets appearances on the cable news channel to speak his mind, and is even invited for interviews on Sunday Morning Political Shows like Meet the Press. Meet the Press is about as mainstream as it gets for political media. Of course, he is less mainstream than Romney and Obama, who dominate the mainstream discussion, but he's still part of it.

I completely agree, and let me explain to Ron Paul supporters why I think he was allowed to become a mainstream candidate: MSM gains credebility, recognition, viewers, legitimacy by telling the truth to suck us in; they NEED candidates who speak the truth, so they choose an old soft man, who's been in government forever, and allow him on there, so what if the wave of his popularity catches to the point that they can not put out the flame and he became president? - all his ideas could still be blocked by congress/senate, and if absolutely necessary, he would perhaps die of a heart attack at his age - better him on there, then all his supporter types uniting with a movement which is not controlled by them by some nutcase like me, who is an absolute stubborn "fundamentalist" with an unchangeable mind, seeking not just a ride to the white house but a complete government take over.

 

[LibertyForAll]

This is probably part of it but what they are really trying to do is subvert the rising swell of libertarian minded voters to their own ends. They are speaking mainly to the older generation since the younger generations don't really watch the MSM anymore. They trot him out so they can say "See look how crazy he is!"

On other fronts they shut attempt to shut down the voice of his supporters by stealing delegates and disenfranchising voters at any cost. They also try appeal to the conservative in us and rally us against the progressive regime in power. Now you will see candidates espousing views similiar to Ron Paul on a local level to get people to believe that they are of the same mind. Using his ideas to propel them into office. This is yet another attempt to water down the message because once in office, most of them won't follow through. I have already seen it here in my local politics. They have a problem though and that problem isn't Ron Paul. It's the internet. The internet is becoming our collective memory and our fingertip historian. All we need to do is go back to find what a candidate said and then show what he did and his credibility is either verified or it's shot. In the past it was much easier to gloss campaign promises over since the archives of speeches and essays were all controlled by the print and television media. The internet has become the bane of tyrrany and we have to keep it free at all costs. If we lose internet freedom then we lose the world.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm sick of voting "lesser of two evils" or mindlessly cheering for one side or the other like it's a damn football game or something.

If a candidate doesn't speak of Constitutional Issues then they won't get my support.

 

[paulitician]

Good points. The MSM also embraces him because he often criticizes his own Republican Party. Most the MSM Outlets lean Left and promote the Democratic Party. They try and exploit anyone who criticizes the Republican Party. John McCain was once their media darling too. And why was that? Well, he often criticized his own Republican Party. He was their "Maverick."

They sure did turn on him though, once he ran against their Dear Leader huh? I am glad Ron Paul is getting some airtime, but remember much of it is him being exploited by the Liberal/Democrat-dominated MSM. Make no mistake about it, the Socialists/Progressives at CNN,NPR, and NBC do not share his beliefs. They're just using him as weapon against the Republican Party. Put him up against their Dear Leader, and i'm sure he would immediately become their evil Boogeyman. John McCain sure found that out. But hey, i'll take what i can get i guess. Good to see getting some media coverage.

 

[onecut39]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

 

[paulitician]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Chicago roads are not what's strangling Chicago Business. It's the Democrats and their catastrophic Third World Hell-Hole they created. Chicago roads are the last thing Chicago Businesses are worried about.

 

[paulitician]

Obama/Romney? Not a real choice. Just two Big Government Globalist Harvard boys in the end. As usual, the joke's on us.

 

[bobcollum]

I like Ron Paul, always have. He doesn't bullshit and pander, and that's incredibly refreshing.

If DC was filled with people like that, left and right, the country would be in much better shape.

 

[paulitician]

I like Ron Paul, always have. He doesn't bullshit and pander, and that's incredibly refreshing.

If DC was filled with people like that, left and right, the country would be in much better shape.

Right On!

 

[LibertyForAll]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Libertarians are not against roads. I drive on them every day. I am a minarchist not an anarchist. I believe that we should have the smallest government possible but we need infrastructure for commerce and to facilitate the pursuit of liberty and happiness. I see no issue with the government at local or state level imposing a tax to build roads if they are needed.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Well first off, the US has a "Style of Government" that is already outlined in the Constitution. That "style" is that the power resides with the People at the State level. We're the United STATES of America not the United FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of America right? What both parties have done, over time, is to take that power and centralize it in Washington. That's why you see a near Tyrannical Government that sits there like Kings and Queens and Lording over us like we're it's subjects.

That's how it was during Colonial times. We fought a war to get rid of that and many of us don't wanna' go back to that. Some do and they're called Liberals.

A quick way to empower the States is to take all the Taxes that are supposed to go to Federal Gov't and put it in State coffers instead. States would zero out their deficits in no time and the Federal Gov't would be hobbled.

Yeah, the Feds would fight back the only way they know (With the Military) but we'd all see what side everyone is on real quick wouldn't we?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Libertarians are not against roads. I drive on them every day. I am a minarchist not an anarchist. I believe that we should have the smallest government possible but we need infrastructure for commerce and to facilitate the pursuit of liberty and happiness. I see no issue with the government at local or state level imposing a tax to build roads if they are needed.

^This^. And it would be a lot easier if the Feds weren't taxing us out of our sustinence.

 

[paulitician]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Well first off, the US has a "Style of Government" that is already outlined in the Constitution. That "style" is that the power resides with the People at the State level. We're the United STATES of America not the United FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of America right? What both parties have done, over time, is to take that power and centralize it in Washington. That's why you see a near Tyrannical Government that sits there like Kings and Queens and Lording over us like we're it's subjects.

That's how it was during Colonial times. We fought a war to get rid of that and many of us don't wanna' go back to that. Some do and they're called Liberals.

A quick way to empower the States is to take all the Taxes that are supposed to go to Federal Gov't and put it in State coffers instead. States would zero out their deficits in no time and the Federal Gov't would be hobbled.

Yeah, the Feds would fight back the only way they know (With the Military) but we'd all see what side everyone is on real quick wouldn't we?

Perfectly stated. Yeah, today's Federal Government resembles King George's reign before our Revolution. With these Executive Orders especially, it seems our President now has unlimited powers. We are living in some very dark times. Freedom & Liberty is on the ropes for sure. Big Brother is unfortunately very close to delivering the knockout punch.

 

[tjvh]

I'm sick of voting "lesser of two evils" or mindlessly cheering for one side or the other like it's a damn football game or something.

If a candidate doesn't speak of Constitutional Issues then they won't get my support.

Well I certainly agree with you on that, but I surely cannot stand another four years of this destructive Obama administration either. I don't think Romney is exactly what I'm looking for either, but I don't think it's realistic that a Candidate is going to come along who will ever fit that definition. That said, Romney is getting my vote because I really think he will do a great job when compared to what I envision will happen to America if Obama is allowed four more damaging years to further enact his destructive policies.

 

[Avatar4321]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Not a libertarian, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that if the state government needs to build a new highway, they can. Heck, if it's a multi state highway, it would be fully constitutional on the commerce clause.

Are you really that unaware of how our government was designed?

 

[FA_Q2]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Where do you get the asinine assertion that libertarians are somehow against taxes or roads entirely? It is the constant one side or the other (you must be for all taxes or you are against all taxes) that is destroying this country.

BTW – the constitution in its original state is extremely libertarian. Not saying that I agree with the original way the government was set up but it was libertarian.

 

[The T]

Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?

Where do you get the asinine assertion that libertarians are somehow against taxes or roads entirely? It is the constant one side or the other (you must be for all taxes or you are against all taxes) that is destroying this country.

BTW – the constitution in its original state is extremely libertarian. Not saying that I agree with the original way the government was set up but it was libertarian.

the poster never read Article 1, section 8 that explained that roads were a legitimate function of government.