This is the natural order

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    If a party that has total power (from 2000-2006) leaves with the nation crumbling on severla fronts..

    ..and exposed on a few others...

    ..the only surprise would be if there was NOT a total cleaning of the HOUSE (and Senate)....

    ...Incompetency will not always be rewarded..
     
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    Using that logic, you would expect Congress to be replaced by Republicans and the President to be replaced by a Democrat.
     
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    The Hoover Administration ended almost exactly the same way.
     
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    Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

    You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

    It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

    American Rhetoric: Movie Speech from Network - Arthur Jensen's Speech to Howard Beale
     
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    Problem with your assessment is you overplay the "crumbling on several fronts" and don't mention the other part is just as incompetent.

    If you're going to try and sound all intellectual and fair, then try a little harder.

    We're fucked. Period. Doesn't matter WHO wins Tuesday. So yeah. incompetence IS rewarded. The Democrats were lame-asses to begin with and that's the reason the GOP got into power and I havn't seen anything to suggest they didn't just pick up where they left off when they got the boot last time. And look, they ended up back in power.

    Two, four or even six years from now the GOP will be back in power with making any real changes.

    So contrary to your statement, incompetence is not only rewarded, it's perpetuated.
     
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    Good cop/bad cop.

    We choose one or the other every few years, and we wonder why nothing ever changes.
     
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    Basic facts sure escape you liberal rejects, for being so smart you all sure are DUMB. 2 of those 6 years the Democrats controlled the Senate. And the other 4 the republicans did not have 60 votes in the Senate, hardly complete power.

    Remind us again how the last 2 years the dems couldn't accomplish anything cause they did not have 60 votes in the Senate, then go back and explain how the republicans had COMPLETE control with out those same 60 votes?
     
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    Maybe part of the problem is that no "party" has ever had 'total power'. One of the complaints I have heard consistently from my youth regards the grid-lock and bickering in our government. Do you remember the joke about the only two things our government can agree on being "let's give ourselves a raise..." and "let's take a vacation..."? It was funny because it is true.

    Even if Obama does prove to be an effective leader, the odds are high that he is a fluke, and not a true change in American politics. Unless American politics changes to produce more leaders, especially in Congress, we are destined to return to the bickering and in-fighting, leaving everyone but the extremists dissatisfied, that we know so well.

    -Joe
     
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    It's rigged that way--there are no other choices. The brainwashing is complete.
     
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    Gunny...When leaders fail..you try new leaders.
    If you are offended by the intellectual sound of that, you shouldnt be.
    It isnt rocket science.

    The GOP somehow suggests that 2 years of partial DEM control insists they souild somehow be branded as republican failures....
    ...No spin is valid.

    The GOP had total control from 2000-to-2006 and they could not get much done. The GOP president started a war and had economic disaster on his watch..
    Bush cant say: Its not my fault. McCain cant say he didnt vote with Bush.

    When your leadership fails you should be replaced....
    If you lead in disgrace, your party goes with you.
    Bush cant even campaign for the standard bearer of his party
    He's leaving in disgrace. Mccain will lose by 15-20%
    The surprise is that anybody's surprised.

    Its the way it is and the way it should be.
    Its the natural order.
     

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