CDZ This is how to end this gov't shutdown fiasco

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    I think Trump just needs to go on national TV and say "Congress failed to reach a budget/spending agreement, which will shut down the government because the Democrats didn't get their deal done for DACA. IOW, they care more about illegal immigrants than they do for legal US citizens, it's just that simple. It's not like Congress can't address that issue and come to some agreement later, that's what they're here for. But to stop funding the gov't until they get their way is not what they're here for. Please tell your Congressperson to stop messing around and do their job.".
     
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    I'd lock them all up in Leavenworth and say call me when you guys reach an agreement.
     
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    In the current political situation, one in which the GOP have had control of the House, Senate and WH, which has been the case since this time last year, nobody other than sycophantic Trumpkins, is going to believe that the Democrats are to blame. They won't because the fact of the matter is that the Congress has had a whole year to pass a comprehensive budget that spand one, two or three years and they quite simply have not done so. Instead, they've waited until the last minute and last penny has been spent to try to pass not a comprehensive budget but yet another continuing resolution.

    Inasmuch the GOP have controlled the House, there is nothing in the world that prohibited them from dealing with this issue months ago; they didn't and here we are and they are trying to blame Democrats for their failure to, for a whole damn year, bring forward a comprehensive budget bill. If you think the polity cannot see through that fabrication, red herring, straw man, you're nuts.
     
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    The Republicans have a majority in the House and the Senate, as well as have the presidency.

    If the government shuts down, it's because of the GOP.
     
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    A GOP Strategy to win the “Shutdown”

    so simple that only a Stupid Party could Blow it

    So watch as the GOP leaders in the Senate go ahead and let the shutdown occur.

    PLAN A: Pass spending bills for each priority from the Vet to the National parks and use reconciliation to allow them to be approved by the senate with 50 votes vs 60. These bills will get signed by the President and the net effect will be the only parts of government left unfunded are parts will be unnecessary stuff (which leads to the question as to why they were funded in the first place).

    PLAN B: If for whatever reason reconciliation can’t be used pass the bills in the house and force the Democrats in the Senate into a REAL filibuster, with senators actually staying up all night, holding the floor and giving speech after speech as to why veterans hospitals, or tax refunds etc shouldn’t be funded. The GOP can have even more fun with this by passing bills that fund BOTH democrat and GOP priorities (such as food stamps and government workers along with the VA) and let POTUS go long on twitter hitting Democrats from blocking relief to the poor and the vets.

    If the party stays on message and shows half the guts this president does in fighting back they can use this issue to completely turn around the election season. I’d even make sure to pass priorities that fund things in swing district that the Democrats want to hold and allow their candidates to explain to voters why they blocked funding for the very districts they want to win.

    This plan is so basic and so obvious that only a stupid party could fail to pull this off.

    Full piece @ http://datechguyblog.com/2018/01/19...imple-that-only-a-stupid-party-could-blow-it/
     
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    All we're hearing from the Republicans is what we always hear from them, always. "Wahhh, we aren't getting what we want and we want it now!"

    The Veruca Salt Republicans.

     
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    The thing is they control the House and Senate, so the only material reason they aren't getting their way is them.
     
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    Mitch has to go, I blame him for keeping the senate in constant turmoil, making working together a dirty word.
     
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