This is how Japan keeps gun murder low...they actually put gun criminals in jail for a long time.

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    Saw this article today....it shows us how Japan actually keeps their gun crime rate low...when they catch a criminal with a gun...they lock them up for a long time...and they have a 99.5% conviction rate against violent criminals....I think we are less than 13%......

    Notice how long a criminal in Japan gets for mere possession of a gun...and how they get life in prison if they pull the trigger....

    Japan’s gun control laws so strict the Yakuza turn to toy pistols



    Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

    “In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

    The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

    Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

    Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

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    A low-ranking member of the Kobe-Yamaguchi-gumi put it this way: “All of the smart guys got rid of their guns a long-time ago. The penalties are way too high. You get life in prison if you just fire a gun. That’s not fun.”
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    The conviction rates in Japan...

    Japan: Gun Control and People Control

    Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.

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    Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

    For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
    Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.


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    I imagine their jails are nowhere near what most of ours are, either.
     
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    Yep-

    Asia. LIKE the rest of Japan, its prisons are strikingly clean, safe and orderly—and as quiet as retirement homes. Yet reformers who have surveyed some of the world's penal hellholes say that Japan's jails rank among the cruellest—for the psychological toll they take on inmates.Dec 3, 2015
    Silent screams - Japan's prisons - The Economist
     
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    Another factor is the Japanese history of firearms. Japan had (and in many ways still has) a feudal cast system until the late 19th Century and firearms were always considered a low-caste weapon. Peasants were forbidden firearms (or any weapons) for centuries so they don't have a history of firearms as a means of self-defence.

    Knife crime in Japan is significantly more common than firearm crime.
     
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    Or maybe it’s cause Japan doesn’t have millions and millions of guns on their streets?
     
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    No, rather they have a non-existent Black,
    Hispanic and Muslim population and they do not have any illegal immigrant problem.

    Not to mention the Japanese culture is one of kindness, respect and courtesy!


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    As someone who lived there for many years ... I can tell you that is NOT the case. Japanese workplaces can be some of the most cruel places I've seen where mental and even physical abuse are common.
     
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    The Japanese military was known for their brutality.
    Horrific Japanese Crimes in WWII That History Forgot
    Is the Japanese allowed to have a military?
    Under the post-war constitution, Japan is not allowed to have offensive military forces. Its Article 9 declares "the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes".Mar 15, 2012
    Japan's contradictory military might - BBC News - BBC.com
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    Yeah.....I didn't expect you to actually understand how they keep the criminals, who get the guns despite the law, from using guns....they do what we keep telling you we need to do...you know...lock up the violent gun criminals.

    How about you read the article....and actually think about it before you post....notice...

    They have a 99.5% conviction rate for violent crime.

    If you are caught in possession of an illegal gun...10 years...in America, a felon with multiple gun convictions...less than 3 years. If you are caught with more than one gun in Japan...15 years....and you get more time if you have bullets for the gun...in America....less than 3 years.

    If you use the gun to commit a crime...life in prison...in America....you get out of prison to shoot more people.....

    Big difference....
     
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    Okay - Japan locks up 69,000 people out of a population of 110 million.

    We lock up 2 million people out of 300 million.

    If locking them up was the answer, we'd be there already.
     
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