This Is Getting Good

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    The fight between Obama and Hillary is getting good. Now Obama compares the Red Queen to Pres Bush

    That should fire things up



    Obama likens Hillary to Bush
    By Christina Bellantoni
    July 27, 2007

    Sen. Barack Obama yesterday suggested Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's foreign policy smacks of "Bush-Cheney lite," in a spat dominating the Democratic presidential contest.

    The two senators have fired political shots all week since a debate question about meeting with leaders from rogue nations, but the rhetoric sharpened yesterday and other White House hopefuls joined in.

    Mrs. Clinton, New York Democrat, dismissed the back-and-forth as "silly," then accused Mr. Obama, Illinois Democrat, of abandoning his "hope" message.

    The dust-up began at Monday's debate when Mr. Obama said "I would" meet, without preconditions, the leaders of U.S. enemies and explained his reasoning. Mrs. Clinton responded next, saying, "I will not promise" and noted such visits could be used as propaganda.

    She later assumed the mantle of experience and told a newspaper that her rival's willingness to meet with such leaders was "irresponsible" and "naive." He countered by characterizing her October 2002 vote for the Iraq war with the same words.

    "If we want fundamental change, then we can't be afraid to talk to our enemies," he said yesterday, keeping the fight alive in a Concord, N.H., campaign speech.

    "I'm not afraid of losing the PR war to dictators, I'm happy to look them in the eye and say what needs to be said," he asserted without mentioning Mrs. Clinton. "I don't want a continuation of Bush-Cheney; I don't want Bush-Cheney lite."

    Obama adviser David Axelrod did not retract the Bush-Cheney remark when asked about it on CNN. Mr. Obama characterized the Bush administration's foreign policy as "obsessed with talking tough and then not acting very smartly

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    and the liberal media does not know which way to go


    The Bran-Muffin Candidate
    Thursday, Jul. 26, 2007 By JOE KLEIN Enlarge Photo
    Illustration by Stephen Kroninger; Clinton Head; Stan Honda / AFP / Getty

    Hillary Clinton looked awful. Her eyes were bleary and puffy, as if she had stayed up all night or was in the midst of a fairly dramatic allergic reaction. (Her staff later said it was indeed allergies.) But there she was, on a Sunday morning in Miami, being Hillary!--as her campaign signs say--in what was billed as una charla (a chat) in front of about a thousand Latinos at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza, a Latino advocacy group. "Let's just talk like two girlfriends," she instructed her interviewer, a Latina newspaper publisher.

    Yeah, right. Actually, I can easily imagine Senator Clinton chatting away with pals about the need for "cross-border cooperation on economic development with Mexico." She's a drop-dead policy wonk. And she's never going to be a warm, cuddly public person. She attacks her job like an assembly-line spot-welding robot, hitting each and every talking point precisely, even when she's rusty with allergies. And that, ultimately, is what she brings to this campaign: reliability, as opposed to experience. She has never been an executive decision maker, but she is solid as granite and righteous as a bran muffin. She isn't going to go all crazy or extreme on us, which is a relief after George W. Bush. She is, for the moment, the default position in the Democratic race.

    Her most serious opponent, Senator Barack Obama, spoke to La Raza directly after Clinton, and he gave a gorgeous speech, using as his text a message that Martin Luther King Jr. had sent to Cesar Chavez in the midst of the farmworker activist's famous 1968 hunger strike: "Our separate struggles are really one." I hadn't seen Obama speak in several months, and his delivery had become more passionate, less cerebral. The substance of his message--on issues like immigration reform--was essentially the same as Clinton's. But he was more artful, using King and Chavez to draw together two ethnic groups, blacks and Latinos, that have a testy relationship in urban America. "Not only are our struggles one," he concluded, "but our dreams are too."

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    May I ask who you support for the next presidential election?
     
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    Welcome to the board Big D.


    You question made me laugh.
     
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    Which candidate speaks to the struggles and dreams of whites?
     
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    Why did it make you laugh? I just want to know who RSR wants to win the next election.
     
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    RSR is a REPUBLICAN and a supposed Conservative. No way any of the Dems attract him, and some of the Repubs do not either.

    The only candidate I have any feeling for is Fred Thompson. If a certain former New York mayor gets the nod I may not vote at all. I am staring to think in that case Hillary might be a less bad choice. BUT damn if I would ever vote for her ass.

    The truth is she is likely more moderate then most of the Liberals running, if we have her Husbands record to go on. I just don't like her disregard for law and rights and the " ends justify the means".
     
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    All of them.
     
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    I agree. All the candidates support whites, they just don't point out that they do.
     
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    Uh.... huh.

    Can you name one candidate who has spoken to a white group, or specifically asked for whites' vote, or specifically addressed white issues?
     

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